Mrs Nuemita

[noemia]

Hi all. I have lodged application for Parent Migrant Class AX subclass 103 on 20 August 2013 for self and spouse and given a queue date 11 May 2015. I used to access the queue calculator and as of 17.4.2020 there were 14680 applicants ahead of me. I have been waiting too long and completing 77 years of age shortly, was intending to apply for CPV 143 for self ONLY since the cost is too high to be met, my spouse would continue wating in the queue.

Since CPV 143 applications upto June 2020 are already processed/granted, I think if I lodge my application for CPV 143 immediately, it would be processed immediately since the grant date of CPV 143 has crossed my queue date and my continuity of waiting period will be considered. Kindly confirm if my statement is correct and whether my spouse is entitled to continue in the queue.

I would also like to know if I have to fill in any form or only a written request, since form 47PT pertains to Contributory Parent Temporary Visa 173 and Contributory Aged Parent Visa. Thanks.

[Lady Jane]

On 12/11/2020 at 13:18, noemia said:

Hi all. I have lodged application for Parent Migrant Class AX subclass 103 on 20 August 2013 for self and spouse and given a queue date 11 May 2015. I used to access the queue calculator and as of 17.4.2020 there were 14680 applicants ahead of me. I have been waiting too long and completing 77 years of age shortly, was intending to apply for CPV 143 for self ONLY since the cost is too high to be met, my spouse would continue wating in the queue.

 

Since CPV 143 applications upto June 2020 are already processed/granted, I think if I lodge my application for CPV 143 immediately, it would be processed immediately since the grant date of CPV 143 has crossed my queue date and my continuity of waiting period will be considered. Kindly confirm if my statement is correct and whether my spouse is entitled to continue in the queue.

 

I would also like to know if I have to fill in any form or only a written request, since form 47PT pertains to Contributory Parent Temporary Visa 173 and Contributory Aged Parent Visa. Thanks.

 

13.          SWITCHING FROM A PARENT VISA TO A CONTRIBUTORY PARENT VISA

The procedure for switching visa subclasses is as follows:

1.          Lodge new Form 47PA (permanent) to the Parent Visa Centre. Ensure you complete “Part B – Declaration to Withdraw”.

2.          Provide new Form 40 with the new application.

3.          Pay the prescribed Visa Application Charge - the previous fee is not refundable or transferable.

 

You do not need to provide copies of supporting documents you have already sent with the old application unless the information contained in those documents has changed or expired.

Note:  when switching from a Parent visa to a Contributory Parent visa, your original application lodgement date will be taken into account for your new application thus ensuring that you are not disadvantaged.

Some applicants prefer to change only one person from a Parent visa to a Contributory Parent visa and this is acceptable and will not affect the other person’s application.

[LindaH27]

Bear in mind you would have to wait 5 years if you were considering bringing  your spouse in on a partner visa instead once you got PR. He will have to remain in 103 queue but likely to be waiting many more years as they are only dealing with August 2010 queue dates and very very  few 103 visas are being granted per year. 

[noemia]

On 15/11/2020 at 22:09, Lady Jane said:

13.          SWITCHING FROM A PARENT VISA TO A CONTRIBUTORY PARENT VISA

The procedure for switching visa subclasses is as follows:

1.          Lodge new Form 47PA (permanent) to the Parent Visa Centre. Ensure you complete “Part B – Declaration to Withdraw”.

2.          Provide new Form 40 with the new application.

3.          Pay the prescribed Visa Application Charge - the previous fee is not refundable or transferable.

 

You do not need to provide copies of supporting documents you have already sent with the old application unless the information contained in those documents has changed or expired.

Note:  when switching from a Parent visa to a Contributory Parent visa, your original application lodgement date will be taken into account for your new application thus ensuring that you are not disadvantaged.

Some applicants prefer to change only one person from a Parent visa to a Contributory Parent visa and this is acceptable and will not affect the other person’s application.

Thanks for the advice, it was very helpful for my confusion. So a new form 47PA will have to be lodged. Part B will also have to be filled in and also form 40. We both have a Visitor (Class FA)Visitor (Subclass 600) expiring Oct 2022, As per Home Affairs.gov.au website "Explanation of application of visa charges' for offshore applicants whether clause 19d and 19j (viii) would apply as the visa charge which is shown below as Nil for 1st instalment ? Will be highly obliged for your advice.

Contributory Parent visa (subclass 143) Applicant meets conditions defined in Note 19d

19d 19j

nil

N/A

nil

nil

19d This visa is for:

1. an applicant who:
   1. made a valid application for a Parent (Migrant) (Class AX) visa before 27 June 2003; and
   2. withdrew that application at the same time as making the application for the Contributory Parent (Migrant) (Class CA) visa;
   or an applicant whose application is combined, or sought to be combined, with an application made by that person;

2. Contributory Parent visa (subclass 143) 19j The second instalment (payable before grant of visa):

   19d 19j

   nil

   N/A

   nil

   nil

   Any other applicant AUD43,600

[noemia]

On 17/11/2020 at 17:44, LindaH27 said:

Bear in mind you would have to wait 5 years if you were considering bringing  your spouse in on a partner visa instead once you got PR. He will have to remain in 103 queue but likely to be waiting many more years as they are only dealing with August 2010 queue dates and very very  few 103 visas are being granted per year. 

Thanks for your reply. We both have a Visitor (Class FA)Visitor (Subclass 600) expiring Oct 2022. After getting Contributory PR will have to apply for spouse visa which would take lesser time like 17 to 20 months?

[LindaH27]

4 hours ago, noemia said:

Thanks for your reply. We both have a Visitor (Class FA)Visitor (Subclass 600) expiring Oct 2022. After getting Contributory PR will have to apply for spouse visa which would take lesser time like 17 to 20 months?

No they changed the rules  some time ago as one person would get PR on 143 then apply for partners/spouse visa which was a lot cheaper. So now you have to wait after getting PR for five years before you can apply for spouse visa. It was a loophole that immigration closed. 

[LindaH27]

6 hours ago, noemia said:

Thanks for your reply. We both have a Visitor (Class FA)Visitor (Subclass 600) expiring Oct 2022. After getting Contributory PR will have to apply for spouse visa which would take lesser time like 17 to 20 months?

To clarify - a post from @Alan Collett of gm visas 

Contributory Parent Visa Applications – Separate Applicants – Restrictions on Sponsoring a Partner

24/08/2016UncategorizedAlan Collett

If we could roll the clock back into early 2009 a cost reduction strategy commonly adopted by applicants for a subclass 143 Contributory Parent visa was for one parent to apply for the subclass 143 visa, and for that individual to sponsor his or her partner/spouse for a partner visa once the 143 visa was granted.

The cost of applying for a partner visa was tens of ‘000’s of $’s cheaper, meaning this strategy was worth considering by many.

The position has since changed: a person who has been granted a Contributory Parent category visa on or after the 1st of July, 2009 is now unable to sponsor a partner or prospective marriage visa applicant until at least five years have passed since they were granted their visa, if they were in a married or de facto relationship with that person on or before the date they were granted the last Contributory Parent category visa.

[Marisawright]

6 hours ago, noemia said:

Thanks for your reply. We both have a Visitor (Class FA)Visitor (Subclass 600) expiring Oct 2022. After getting Contributory PR will have to apply for spouse visa which would take lesser time like 17 to 20 months?

As others have said, you will have to wait 5 years before you are allowed to even apply for the spouse visa, after you get your Contributory PR.