Bedroom and kitchen fitter

[Littlesnowangel]

Hi, just signed up as me and my husband are thinking of moving to oz. we have family in Queensland and would like to go there. My husband is a bedroom and kitchen fitter and was wondering if this is a skilled job we could get a visa with? And I'm a nail/lash technician so was wondering if jobs are going to be easy to find? We are going to a seminar next week on visas and emigrating and hopefully getting the ball rolling then but all I can find is carpenter skilled job and he's not exactly a carpenter.

Thanks

[VERYSTORMY]

I would speak to a good registered migration agent. We have a number of regular members who are well respected agents as sometimes it can be difficult to spot what occupation to apply under, but vital it is correct. However, be aware most people do not qualify for a visa due to their occupation or other factors

[Littlesnowangel]

3 hours ago, VERYSTORMY said:

I would speak to a good registered migration agent. We have a number of regular members who are well respected agents as sometimes it can be difficult to spot what occupation to apply under, but vital it is correct. However, be aware most people do not qualify for a visa due to their occupation or other factors

Thanks veryStormy, we are going to a seminal next week with a emigration company so hopefully they will be able to tell us more, when my husband rang them they said it came under joiner which was sorted after and he was under the age limit which was good but the tone dropped when he said he didn't have any qualifications...he started working for a company at 16 and was taught in the job, he's now 37 so has years of experience.

[LKC]

I'd advise speaking to an agent too.  I don't know if the lack of qualifications would be a problem, but if I were in your shoes I would try and find out ASAP so that if any qualifications are required they can be met sooner rather than when age restrictions become a problem.

[kimboslice]

10 hours ago, Littlesnowangel said:

Hi, just signed up as me and my husband are thinking of moving to oz. we have family in Queensland and would like to go there. My husband is a bedroom and kitchen fitter and was wondering if this is a skilled job we could get a visa with? And I'm a nail/lash technician so was wondering if jobs are going to be easy to find? We are going to a seminar next week on visas and emigrating and hopefully getting the ball rolling then but all I can find is carpenter skilled job and he's not exactly a carpenter.

Thanks

HI

Not sure if the seminar is going to cost you any money, but i would ring or e-mail go matilda.

they will not charge you a penny for the initial enquiry, and you will get the answers you are looking for almost instantly.

we have been using them since we applied for our 143 visa (4.10.2015)  and they have been brilliant.

good luck

mark

 

 

[Littlesnowangel]

Thanks  for all the advice, I have just filled out the form on go Matilda so see what they have to say, the seminar is with the emigration group and doesn't cost much so we will be going over to that next week just to get some info but will do a lot of research before we sign up to anything and hand over any money. 

Im just hoping to get a visa and get out of the UK. This forum is great though, I hope to be in a position one day of giving advice

[VERYSTORMY]

The main thing is to use a good registered migration agent. Go Matilda are one of the best and Alan their managing director is a regular member of the forum.

It isn't going to be a matter of how much experience he has, it is going to come down to if he can pass the skills assessment for a joiner. The skills assessment is a mix of qualification and experience and this includes proving experience in all the aspects of joinery. It can be possible to get around the qualification aspect via what is known as RPL - recognition of prior learning, but this will certainly require the help of an agent.

I am also going to send you a private message.

[Pwood]

Did you have any joy? We are thinking the same thing but you have to do roof truss etc on skills assesment dont you? My husband is a floor fitter (not on the list at the min) but also fits wooden floors and has to do all the sub floors. Looking at different ways to go. Hope you got somewhere.  Did you find a good migration expert? 

[Littlesnowangel]

2 hours ago, Pwood said:

Did you have any joy? We are thinking the same thing but you have to do roof truss etc on skills assesment dont you? My husband is a floor fitter (not on the list at the min) but also fits wooden floors and has to do all the sub floors. Looking at different ways to go. Hope you got somewhere.  Did you find a good migration expert? 

Hi, yes well iv done a load of research and decided not to go with an agent. Our application should be pretty straight forward.  My husband has his Pearsons test this week, without that we can't go further and pointless doing his skills test before he passes his English test as his skills test is very expensive. He needs top marks in his English too! 

We did see a migration agent and was told with his job we might be able to apply for a state sponsorship or family visa as I have an uncle, auntie and cousins there. There is so much messing around and money you have to throw at it, as I'm sure your aware, and it's putting my husband off now but I'm trying to keep him on track!

we found a list of jobs and their roles and chose the one closest to his roles. He chose cabinetmaker so as long as he can pass his skills assessment completing those tasks it should be ok. It's crazy because the visa we're looking at 189 doesn't require him to be a cabinetmaker if we get the visa!

let me know how you get on and good luck

 

Edited August 3, 2017 by Littlesnowangel

[VERYSTORMY]

From what you have posted, I would say your application is FAR from straight forward and he may even need to do RTO.

[Littlesnowangel]

On 04/08/2017 at 09:51, VERYSTORMY said:

From what you have posted, I would say your application is FAR from straight forward and he may even need to do RTO.

A registered training organisation? You mean for his pearsons test?

why does it not sound straightforward? No visa application to Australia sounds easy but I think our circumstances are as simple as they get.

[Guest]

I tend to agree with Very Stormy about using an agent. Especially as your husband has no formal qualifications. 

[VERYSTORMY]

At the moment, without a formal qualification in the occupation you are likely to fail. It is possible, but there are other steps you would need to do such as having his experience formally recognised in place of the qualification. 

[Littlesnowangel]

On 06/08/2017 at 06:15, VERYSTORMY said:

At the moment, without a formal qualification in the occupation you are likely to fail. It is possible, but there are other steps you would need to do such as having his experience formally recognised in place of the qualification. 

He's got 20 years experience and we've been advised and on the border website that he will need to show evidence of his experience, references from his previous employers along with payslips or p60s and his tex returns since he's now self employed. There is no qualification for cabinetmaker and is a learn on the job especially 20 years ago. He will do a skills assessment with TRA i think 

[Littlesnowangel]

On 06/08/2017 at 03:52, Chicken66 said:

I tend to agree with Very Stormy about using an agent. Especially as your husband has no formal qualifications. 

Yes we have been to an agent and still might use one, we are in two minds. If he can't do his pearsons test we might have to use one if we want to go down the state sponsor visa route or see what our options are. We are in the very early stages. As for the qualification his job isn't or at least back then wasn't a qualification but he has 20 years experience and cabinetmaker is on the list of skilled jobs wanted. Experience sometimes works in favour of having a degree because everyone wants experience 

[VERYSTORMY]

If the skills assessment requires a formal qualification such as city and guilds, then it doesn't matter how much experience he has, he will need to show something. This means in his case undergoing a process first known as RPL - Recognition of Prior Learning. This is a formal certificate that uses a chunk of his experience and provides a certificate that can be used for the skills assessment

[Littlesnowangel]

32 minutes ago, VERYSTORMY said:

If the skills assessment requires a formal qualification such as city and guilds, then it doesn't matter how much experience he has, he will need to show something. This means in his case undergoing a process first known as RPL - Recognition of Prior Learning. This is a formal certificate that uses a chunk of his experience and provides a certificate that can be used for the skills assessment

Yes that's it a PRL 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Littlesnowangel said:

He's got 20 years experience and we've been advised and on the border website that he will need to show evidence of his experience, references from his previous employers along with payslips or p60s and his tex returns since he's now self employed. There is no qualification for cabinetmaker and is a learn on the job especially 20 years ago. He will do a skills assessment with TRA i think 

I understand what you are saying in regards to experience. However as it's a skilled visa you are trying to get. He will need some sort of formal certificate like the RPL to prove he has a recognized skill that's on the list. Please don't think we are trying be negative or put you off. Just trying to help you achieve the result you want. Wishing you both the best of luck.  

Edited August 7, 2017 by Guest

[Littlesnowangel]

1 hour ago, Chicken66 said:

I understand what you are saying in regards to experience. However as it's a skilled visa you are trying to get. He will need some sort of formal certificate like the RPL to prove he has a recognized skill that's on the list. Please don't think we are trying be negative or put you off. Just trying to help you achieve the result you want. Wishing you both the best of luck.  

Yes thanks chicken66 from what I gathered from my research he will need to gather together his references and p60s from his time working as a cabinet maker, and then I book him in for his skills assessment and they check over his documents and they issue him with the cirtificate that gives him his points for, is that right? It's nice of you to say because my heart does sink every time someone comes back at me with a problem or telling me I'm wrong as reading it in text sound so blunt. Some people on here haven't been very helpful or friendly and I am just at the beginning of this whole visa thing so any helpful info is appreciated

[VERYSTORMY]

16 minutes ago, Littlesnowangel said:

Yes thanks chicken66 from what I gathered from my research he will need to gather together his references and p60s from his time working as a cabinet maker, and then I book him in for his skills assessment and they check over his documents and they issue him with the cirtificate that gives him his points for, is that right? It's nice of you to say because my heart does sink every time someone comes back at me with a problem or telling me I'm wrong as reading it in text sound so blunt. Some people on here haven't been very helpful or friendly and I am just at the beginning of this whole visa thing so any helpful info is appreciated

Sorry, it feels like we are throwing problems at you, but we are just trying to help.

Before he gets a skills assessment, he may need the RPL certificate. This is totally separate from the skills assessment.

[Littlesnowangel]

4 minutes ago, VERYSTORMY said:

Sorry, it feels like we are throwing problems at you, but we are just trying to help.

Before he gets a skills assessment, he may need the RPL certificate. This is totally separate from the skills assessment.

Yeah sorry it's not you guys it's this whole process, it's so complicated! I didn't realise he needed his RPL before his skills assessment, I thought it was the same thing that his skills assessment looks at his references and documents and then passes him!? That's the idea I got, we have got an immigration company maybe we should meet with them

[VERYSTORMY]

I think a registered migration agent would be very useful. Particularly if he has to do RPL as it isn't a simple process, particularly in your case.

The way a skills assessment works is the assessors want to see two things. Proof of experience and proof of qualification. As he doesn't have the formal qualification, he may need the RPL instead - it effectively awards a qualification based on experience.

I know it is another expense, but, in the scheme of things, the costs of an agent are a drop in the ocean - by far the biggest costs are after you land!