mikesw15 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm 40 years old and really want to move to Australia but only have HGV licence, is it to late to retrain say as a bricklayer or some other trade ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Probably. It would take you several years to get trade qualifications starting from scratch and then you need 3 years of post qualification work experience before you could meet the skills assessment requirements for a points tested visa but by that time, you would be too old to have any chance of getting enough points to be eligible for a points tested visa - the available points drop significantly after 44. That means that an employer sponsored visa would be your only chance but it would be extremely difficult for you as a relatively inexperienced tradie in your 40s to find an employer willing and eligible to sponsor you. TBH, I don't think you have much chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyDreamer Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm 40 years old and really want to move to Australia but only have HGV licence, is it to late to retrain say as a bricklayer or some other trade ? Technically no and technically yes. In theory you could retrain at your age is doable and you can apply for a skilled PR visa up until you are 50. The issue is you would not make the 60 points required so retraining would not really achieve anything. I am a tiler and it is one of the quickest tradie jobs to become. I rushed through my qualifications as I works for my uncle so just put me through them and I did it all constant and back to back. Even that took 2 years. You then need 3 years experience after getting the qualifications. On that path you would be looking at being 45. For points purposes you get zero age points. Even getting 20 from the English test, 10 if you went for regional sponsorship and 10 for your diploma that only totals 40 points. You could not make up 20 points in work experience so could not qualify. As ozmaniac said getting work sponsorship would be hard for an overseas tradies with limited experience at 45 would be difficult. Have you looked through the skilled occupation list and consolidation occupation list. Maybe you have other skills to match a job you had not considered or maybe you have a partner who has a job on the lists you did not think may be on their. The list of skills in demand is varied and there maybe a job on the 2 list yourself or partner could fit to. It doesn't matter who is the applicant. One thing I would say though is of you do find a role or retrain do consider your retirement. I know at 40 that might seem a while away but you would not have built a decent pot in oz to support you by the time you retire starting out there in your 40s and your UK pension won't be enough to support the oz cost of living so you will need a financial contingency plan. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesw15 Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 Technically no and technically yes. In theory you could retrain at your age is doable and you can apply for a skilled PR visa up until you are 50. The issue is you would not make the 60 points required so retraining would not really achieve anything. I am a tiler and it is one of the quickest tradie jobs to become. I rushed through my qualifications as I works for my uncle so just put me through them and I did it all constant and back to back. Even that took 2 years. You then need 3 years experience after getting the qualifications. On that path you would be looking at being 45. For points purposes you get zero age points. Even getting 20 from the English test, 10 if you went for regional sponsorship and 10 for your diploma that only totals 40 points. You could not make up 20 points in work experience so could not qualify. As ozmaniac said getting work sponsorship would be hard for an overseas tradies with limited experience at 45 would be difficult. Have you looked through the skilled occupation list and consolidation occupation list. Maybe you have other skills to match a job you had not considered or maybe you have a partner who has a job on the lists you did not think may be on their. The list of skills in demand is varied and there maybe a job on the 2 list yourself or partner could fit to. It doesn't matter who is the applicant. One thing I would say though is of you do find a role or retrain do consider your retirement. I know at 40 that might seem a while away but you would not have built a decent pot in oz to support you by the time you retire starting out there in your 40s and your UK pension won't be enough to support the oz cost of living so you will need a financial contingency plan. Good luck. I was doing web design/development for about 5 years, but don't have any qualifications to show it. what if i was to do a city and guilds in tiling which is a 6 week full time course then go work with a friend for 3 years doing that would that quailfy me to get in as i would be 44, would that work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamffc Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 After leaving the military in his late 30's, my Dad retrained as a refrigeration engineer, started his business after about four years and has done very well since. So I certainly don't think its too late. However, I would go for something that you want to do, not something that you think might enable you to move to Australia. Apart from the most obvious reasons, for all you know you might choose a trade then find the australian government remove it from the skilled occupation list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzyDreamer Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I was doing web design/development for about 5 years, but don't have any qualifications to show it. what if i was to do a city and guilds in tiling which is a 6 week full time course then go work with a friend for 3 years doing that would that quailfy me to get in as i would be 44, would that work ? To pass the TRA skills assessment you need the nvq 3. I did the 6 week city and guilds to qualify then did the nvqs. You could explore what is offered in your area. Some areas have colleges and work based assessors that let you wizz through nvqs and get your level 3 quickly. My assessor was a jobsworth and made me do it on his say so but some people get faster results which is why I felt you potentially could do it. If you can do it all and have the 3 years experience and lodge the visa before turning 45 it is possible. You will still get age points for up to 44 inclusive I believe. Another thing to try is see how many years you did web developer as you could possibly pass the ACS skills assessment as they do recognition of prior learning but you need to have 6 years experience. Not sure how the points works after RPL but maybe explore that option to. Look on the ACS website and speak to IT people who could maybe advice on that route. Fingers in pies and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I was doing web design/development for about 5 years, but don't have any qualifications to show it. what if i was to do a city and guilds in tiling which is a 6 week full time course then go work with a friend for 3 years doing that would that quailfy me to get in as i would be 44, would that work ? Was it web design or actually web development (i.e. programming) - if it is the former then it is actual Vetassess not ACS that do the skill assessment, I do not think unless you have qualifications you would get a positive skills assessment. If it was actual web development, then as suggested you may be able to complete a 'Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL)' with the ACS - 5 years experience is not sufficient - you would need 8 without qualifications however it may be that is the skill to focus on rather than a completely new one. 261212 - Web Developer Plans, produces and maintains websites using web programming languages, software applications, technologies anddatabases together with specifications of user needs, often in conjunction with other ICT Professionals such asBusiness Analysts, Web Designers and network and usability specialists. Description of Employment Duties: analyzing, designing and developing Internet sites applying a mixture of artistry and creativity with softwareprogramming and scripting languages and interfacing with operating environments designing and developing digital animations, imaging, presentations, games, audio and video clips, andInternet applications using multimedia software, tools and utilities, interactive graphics and programminglanguages communicating with network specialists regarding web-related issues, such as security and hosting websites,to control and enforce Internet and web server security, space allocation, user access, business continuity,website backup and disaster recovery planning designing, developing and integrating computer code with other specialized inputs, such as image files, audiofiles and scripting languages, to produce, maintain and support websites assisting in analyzing, specifying and developing Internet strategies, web-based methodologies anddevelopment plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saff Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I thoroughly beleive it's never ever too late to retrain - you just need to be prepared for the sacrafices in the short term that it might entail.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1Perth Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 It's never to late to retrain but it might be too late for that retraining to get you a visa, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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