priscillagonsalves Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hi All, Looking for some help please. We are looking to apply for the 489 subclass with a relative sponsor. The occupation is currently closed in both SA and ACT. Our sponsor is from ACT. Can we apply for the 489 subclass with a relative sponsor. Any one Please .....HELP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 For a Family sponsored 489, your occupation must be on the SOL and your relative must live in a 'Designated area' of Australia - the entire ACT is a designated area. A condition of the visa is that you must live and work in a designated area for at least 2 years. After living in a designated area for 2 years and working full time for 1 year, you can apply for an 887 permanent visa. If your occuaption is not on the SOL, your only chance of a points tested visa is one with state sponsorship. Only a relatively small number of Family Sponsored 489 visas are available in each invitation round and if you have only 60 points, you can probably expect a fairly long wait to get an invitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priscillagonsalves Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thanks Ozmaniac for your response. My husband is in Australia his occupation is on the CSOL. Can his sister be his sponsor for the 489 visa subclass in ACT. Because i read on the ACT website that state does not have access to 489subclass visas. Don't know what that means. He is doing his Masters currently, not too sure if we can claim points for his degree once he finishes. We are 5 points short for the subclass 190. IELTS are done. Vetassess is completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurpreet Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Hii Ozmaniac Do you have any knowledge how i can bring my daughter to australia She is one year old born in India . I am holder of visa 489. please help me . My agent is saying i have to sponsor her . But immigration guys says i do not need to sponsor . Please help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Thanks Ozmaniac for your response. My husband is in Australia his occupation is on the CSOL. Can his sister be his sponsor for the 489 visa subclass. He is doing his Masters currently, not too sure if we can claim points for his degree once he finishes. We are 5 points short for the subclass 190 If his occupation is only on the CSOL and not on the SOL, he is not eligible to be sponsored by his sister for a 489. If he is only 5 points short for a 190, how many points for English is he claiming? If he is is claiming less than 20 for Superior English, re-doing IELTS is the best way to increase his points. But of course, his occupation still needs to be on a state list before he can apply for a 190. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priscillagonsalves Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Oh God. We were hoping that we could apply for the 489 instead of the 190. As we are short of points. He will be extremely devastated as he was preparing to apply for the EOI for subclass 489. Points claimed for IELTS is 10 Points for Vetassess is 15 (overseas qualifications & work experience) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 He can apply for a State sponsored 489 with a CSOL occupation if his occupation is on a state list as eligible for a 489. It's only a Family sponsored 489 that requires his occupation to be on the SOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priscillagonsalves Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Customer Service Manager is his occupation which is only on the CSOL of ACT and SA. in ACT it is in the closed occupations list and SA says Special Conditions Apply. So now what .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 You will need to check what the conditions are for SA. The most common is that a job offer has been made. you may find the only options are to either look for a job, which would probably be a 457 visa and you would need to go into that fully understanding what that means (there are serious negative impacts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priscillagonsalves Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 I think that he will have to give the IELTS another shot. That is our only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebourvellec Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I think that he will have to give the IELTS another shot. That is our only option. Sorry to be bearer of bad news - But you will still need state nomination as occupations in csol require employer sponsorship or state nomination, independent 189 is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 If his occupation is only on the CSOL, doing IELTS is pointless if his occupation isn't on a state list or if he can't meet the conditions imposed by a state that has it listed. If he can't meet the conditions for a state sponsored visa, the only alternative is an employer sponsored visa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priscillagonsalves Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 His occupation is on the ACT and SA state list. If he clears the IELTS with all 8's he can apply for 190 state sponsorship as he will have enough points to support his SS application for both states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 We seem to be going around in circles here. Points have nothing to do with your eligibility for state sponsorship beyond the fact that you must have 60 points in order to be eligible for whatever state sponsored visa you wish to apply for - having any more than 60 points provides no benefit. If he wants a 190, doing IELTS for 20 points is worthwhile only if it gets him to 60 without needing the 10 points for specified area (489) nomination. The occupation is only on the SA SNOL but is designated as 'Special Conditions apply'. See "Special conditions apply" on the following for details of what is required to get sponsorship for an occupation with that designation: https://www.migration.sa.gov.au/node/104 It looks like your best bet may be to try for an ACT nomination on the basis of your husband's sister being resident there but she would NOT be sponsoring him. The ACT info on 'Closed occupations' states: Closed Occupations. You may be eligible to apply for ACT nomination if you have close ties (job offer or family) to Canberra and you meet the nomination criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priscillagonsalves Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Hi, I wrote to the ACT department for clarification and the below is what i received The ACT government does not nominate under the 489. However, relatives can sponsor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Hi, I wrote to the ACT department for clarification and the below is what i received The ACT government does not nominate under the 489. However, relatives can sponsor. Pin which case ACT is out. It is not the state that assesses applicants (the state provides the sponsorship where applicable). It is DIAC. Which is a federal organisation and will apply the rules regardless of state wishes. So, as you do not meet the federal DIAC criteria for Family sponsorship, you can not use ACT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozmaniac Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 You've misunderstood what they are saying. The ACT only nominates applicants for 190 visas - unlike the other states/territories, they don't sponsor anyone for 489 State Sponsored visas. When they say that relatives can sponsor people for 489s, they are talking about 489 Family sponsored visas (nothing to do with state sponsorship) and for that, the applicant's occupation MUST be on the SOL. Your husband's occupation is NOT on the SOL so a family sponsored visa is out of the question for him. If however you read my last post (#14) on this thread, because your husband has a sister in the ACT, it may be possible for him to apply to the ACT for nomination for a 190 even though his is a closed occupation but he will only get 5 points for a 190 nomination so may need to do IELTS to get to 60 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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