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Well it says: Unlike the SOL, changes to the CSOL can come into effect any time during the year It makes me a little nervous :-) My application is on the CSOL (marketing specialist), I applied as Direct Entry (I changed employer) and I am going to a bridging visa mid-january so I hope they will not remove marketing specialist from the list before my nomination gets approved or are not delaying these occupations reviews.
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Has anybody read these articles: https://www.acacia-au.com/changes-to-Skilled-Occupations-List-Flagged.php & http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-20/government-cutting-457-job-list-for-skilled-migrants/8040548 I wonder if that explains why some nominations take so much time to be approved... [h=2]Consolidated Sponsored Occupations List[/h]The ABC and SBS have reported on removal of occupations from the CSOL. [h=3]What do we Know So Far?[/h]The articles include comments from the Minister for Immigration, Peter Dutton. These comments relate specifically to 457 visa applications, and are as follows: The Government is considering cutting the list for 457 visas This is as a result of pressure from the opposition Labour party calling for restrictions on the 457 program Work is underway to "condense" the list already, and the Government will look at this very soon The occupations mentioned as the most frequently used for the 457 program are Cooks, Cafe or Restaurant Managers, Marketing Specialists, Chefs and Developer Programmers. At this stage, it is not clear which occupations may be removed.[h=3]What would be the Impact of the Change?[/h]The above comments suggest the 457 list could be reduced in the near future. Unlike the SOL, changes to the CSOL can come into effect any time during the year.As the 457 list is the same for the Employer Nomination Scheme Subclass 186 Visa and Occupational Trainee Stream of the Training Subclass 407 visa, if the 457 list were reduced, this may also affect these types of visas. For 457 visas, the requirement that the occupation be on the approved list is a "time of decision" requirement. In other words, even if you have lodged your application prior to the change, you could be caught out if the occupations list changes before a decision is made on your application. For ENS visas, the effect will depend on which stream you apply for. If you have worked for your sponsor on a 457 visa for 2 years and are applying for the Temporary Residence Transition Stream, the impact should be minimal. If you apply for the Direct Entry Stream, this would require a skills assessment in a CSOL occupation and 3 years of work experience in your occupation. If your occupation is removed before your nomination is approved, you could have difficulty meeting the requirements for the Direct Entry Stream. [h=3]What can I Do to Minimise the Impact?[/h]If you are considering applying for a 457 visa, you should apply as soon as possible to avoid being affected by the changes.If you are considering the Direct Entry Stream of the ENS visa, you should also look at applying soon to avoid disappointment. If you are on a 457 visa already and looking at the Temporary Residence Transition Stream, you should not be affected by any changes to the CSOL.
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@Test of Patience may I ask your occupation, number of people on your application and if you are HR or LR? (High Risk or Low Risk country) - just to compete the spreadsheet.Did you go with a MA? What kind of company do you work for? I mean, I can understand that some files take longer because of some checks they need to do but I do not get that the nomination would take a year to be reviewed.
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Which stats are you referring to? The spreadsheet is here if you want to enter your info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1INy6sxuUIisgLOT7CcskWLjQjHV_6yVvUBRHceWE_a0/edit#gid=1796353307 According to this spreadsheet it takes in average 7 1/2 months.
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I guess, what would be good is to update their page to manage expectations: https://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/8 At the moment, 6 months is stated as being the average processing time which explains why people get anxious when reaching the 6 months mark.
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Hey Kuk - the person you are mentioning was nominated in October 2015 which means they had been waiting over a year overall.
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Yep, there is heaps to do for the Department of Immigration. And also, it is a very big deal, it is about allowing people to live in Australia forever. Quite a big decision to make for the Case Officers :-)
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Syd2016 had posted the following - I quote: "Interesting data - The outcome for the Employer Nomination Scheme (ENS) was 35,981 places in 2015–16,including grants made under Labour Agreements [in 2014–15 it was 35,870 places]. Demand for places in the ENS category in the 2015–16 programme year was 4.7 per cent(2189 places) lower with 44,517 applications lodged, compared to 46,706 applications lodged inthe 2014–15 programme year. The ENS pipeline was 27,241 persons as at 30 June 2016, anincrease of 22.1 per cent (4923 persons) compared to the pipeline as at 30 June 2015. https://www.border.gov.au/Reportsand...mme-report.pdf "
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It is long for transitions as well :-) It's just that we are hyper focused on our own cases. Let's see the bright side: it's long but are in the process :-)
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Hey DesiGuy, If you look in May, you will see DE applications approved - that should answer your question. I think we all have to take this spreadsheet with a pinch of salt as we can only see a little portion of the total applications that the department is dealing with. The situation is super stressful, I agree And while trying to analyse things and making assumptions may give us a sense of control; we actually do not control anything, and we do not know anything about the cases. There can be many reasons why some take more time than others.
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Hi May2016, I was also unsure when I saw this on the forum so, for peace of mind, I mailed my MA and asked. You may want to do the same :-) My MA sent me a link and explained me I could create an account or use the one I had (if I already had one) and then import the application to view it. I can now view the status of my application but I did not touch it i.e. I did not upload or change anything. I hope that helps!
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If that can help, the official communication from my Migration Agent is: applications take currently 6 to 9 months. The automatic email says that they are still processing early Feb applications but the spreadsheet indicates that they are already opening June applications. If you want more info, you have the option of getting in touch with: - Deloitte Migration Agent who probably also takes care of your application - The Department of Immigration (you can call them directly) Not sure if you are aware but you can also access your file by creating an ImmiAcount here: https://online.immi.gov.au/lusc/login Good luck!
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Hi there, are you aware of that document shared on the forum: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1INy6sxuUIisgLOT7CcskWLjQjHV_6yVvUBRHceWE_a0/edit#gid=1159472963 That should answer your question. It seems really random the way the applications are being picked and approved. Some people wait over a year other get approved in 6 months...
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@Bluegrass & @Izzielizzie - I really hope you guys get approved soon - Sending lots of positive vibes.
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I haven't got any feedback on this but I would assume there would be a logical slow down as this is indeed a vacation time in Oz. From my experience, the Australian administration is very efficient so I cannot imagine it would last more than the X-Mas period. One question: Has anybody heard about outsourcing? An acquaintance told me that outsourcing was used to process applications. I have no idea if it is true but it could explain the PR approvals over the weekend. Again, I did not get any official confirmation on this. One other thing I wonder, especially when I see people waiting 8 months or more: is it possible to physically go to the department of immigration? It just blows my mind that nobody answers questions from people who have been waiting for so long. This is something that actually really freaks me out... Having to wait more than 6/8 months without any feedback!
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I heard the opposite yesterday, I was told that PR applications get approved faster in the last quarter of the year in order to hit the 75% KPI target - i.e. 75% of applications to be approved within 6 months. On a side note, back in the days, February 2011, my WHV got approved during a weekend in less than 24 hours. Many of my acquaintances have observed the same turnaround. It looks like the WHV process is a fairly automated one, independently of the time of the year. It is reasonable to hope to see a percentage of June applications to be approved before X-Mas, however, it is also very likely to see a percentage being approved in Q1 2017. Just looking at the spreadsheet shows us that on average, people wait 7 1/2 months. My applications got submitted on June 20th and even if I have this little hope in my heart, I try to stay realistic and be happy with a January approval. Now, I really hope that everyone who has been waiting longer than 8 months will be approved before X-Mas. I really feel a lot of compassion for anyone who has to wait more than the average communicated time...
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Thanks for your answer Verystormy! To clarify what I wrote in my post: I doubt that MA have any visibility in the processing of our applications. If they had, they would give us answers. And, look, I am not saying that MA are not competent or trained, of course they are. But let's be honest, the role is very administrative. And, sure, MARA is a consultative body but it does not change the fact that our MA are unable to tell us why our applications are being processed at different paces. Finally, while it gives us peace of mind to apply with an MA, many people also apply without, and are successful in their application. Regarding the articles, I personally find it is useful to see what is currently being discussed and what may change.
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There are at least 3 examples of Direct Entry Visa from May 2016 which have been already approved :wink: Migration Agents are probably not able to tell us what is going on, because they are not part of the process. My take on this is that they are only here for the administrative part (i.e. to help submitting documents). That's it. For the rest, they are just making assumptions. Calling immigration does not change anything, negative or positive, one of my friend was ringing regularly and got his visa approved in 3 months. They are probably annoyed because they are understaffed, but legally I do not think that they can put your file under the pile because you annoyed them. Then, this is sad that they cannot give a clear feedback because clearly they are processing May already - or we have a lot of trolls on this forum :-) There is a lot of press around immigration at the moment: http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2016/11/16/breaking-news-australian-government-cuts-stay-457-visa-holders And there are changes to come as well apparently: http://www.interstaff.com/government-to-reassess-permanent-skilled-migration-rules Regarding occupation, if you read the below article, you will see that some occupations on the SOL are in high demand (incl. Marketing Specialist) and still they seem to be approved with total different timelines. http://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2016/05/19/understanding-skilled-occupations-list-sol Again, I do not think there is any logic, but if we want to get any further with the spreadsheet, we could also add our age, our partner occupations, because it looks like it is also important for immigration. We could also add our MA company to see which are most effective ;p But at the end of the day, I do not think it will solve the issue of pending applications, and I agree this is super frustrating and relatively unfair.
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There is one thing I'd like to add: after 6 months wait, I do plan to call the immigration department regularly. Independently of my agent opinion on the matter. I do not think it can hurt and I personally feel that if they put 6 months as an average to process applications, there is no reason why we could not call them to ask what is going on :-)
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The one you are sharing :-)
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Hi everyone, Nice to meet you! I have been following this thread for several months now. This is super helpful, thanks all. I see a lot of questions about what influence a faster approval. I do not think we will find an answer to be honest. My partner did a full analysis of the spreadsheet and came to the conclusion that this is random. He is Australian and is pretty frustrated by the process as well by the way. He could not see any major differences between the options currently visible in the table: Transition vs Direct Entry, HR vs LR. The number of people on the case seem to influence a bit by 1 or 2 weeks which makes sense as there are more documents to review. The average time seems to be 7 months 1/2 starting from the nomination. Then is varies +/- 10 days. It does look like a queue, currently opening April/May cases. Some cases are much longer or much quicker than others, and sometimes, it really does not look like there is any reasons for the longer timelines, which is odd. My details are already in the spreadsheet but basically: Nomination and visa submitted with MA: June 20 2016 Status: received Country: LR Direct Entry 1 person Marketing specialist I have been living and working in Australia since July 2012 First with a Working Holiday Visa Then with a 457 visa (started January 2013) My 457 visa got approved the first time and then transferred twice due to job changes. The processes were always quite quick (1 or 2 weeks). My employer applied for 186 visa Direct Entry because my 457 visa is expiring in January - I am very grateful that they did.