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Interesting thread.

I love Australia, the country has a stunning beauty but I also love Europe and I hope I will convince my Aussie Fiance to give it a go at some time of our lives. 

I understand and respect that you guys love Australia but to me, Europe is amazing too for different reasons.

In Australia I love being able to go somewhere without anybody around. That's really peaceful. I also love the gorgeous nature and wildlife. This is just unique.

Still, I just find it very expensive to travel within Australia and it is quite painful to me to have to fly at least 8 hours to be in a completely different country with a different culture and a different language (i.e. South East Asia).

I do not mean to be disrespectful or arrogant but really even though there are many different European communities here. This is just not the same as being able to visit the actual countries. On the topic of New Caledonia, I have relatives who lived in Noumea, got homesick and decided to get back to France after a year. I have never been to Noumea, but with all due respect, I doubt it'd be the same as being in "l'Hexagone".

I personally love Europe because I find it freaking awesome to be able to work in 26 countries. When I was working in Hamburg, it was so amazing to go to the airport in 20 minutes and fly for a weekend to Milan, London, Amsterdam, Paris, Prague, Copenhagen or Barcelona without having to go through customs. Travelling was also much cheaper there than it is in Australia and it is just so convenient to be able to pay in the same currency (I know not everywhere ;-))

So yeah, I do not see why people would judge other people based on what country or culture they are the most happy in. This will really depend on the person and on their lifestyle. And I clearly understand the many people I know who spent several years in Oz and decided to go back to Europe. Because Europe is far from being a bad place to live. At least all my friends who went back are happy to be back there.

48 minutes ago, Zee14042016 said:

Hi everyone and @Izzielizzie @badaich87 @syd2016 @APR15 @Khushi02aug @Elliotkan

Finally it's my turn to post something positive.

I got both my nomination and visa approval today.

Applied both nomination and visa on 14th April 2016 through agent

Occupation is Market Research Analyst - (This is now a removed occupation as per new rules. Luckily i had applied last year)

Nomination got approved first, after which i was asked for employer referral letter (which we submit during skill assessment). 

I submitted that immediately and got visa approval within another hour or so.

Few suggestions to people waiting -  

My agent did NOT submit form 80. So pretty much what they request depends on your case. I did pester my agent to submit it after reading threads online. However ensure you submit what they need, don't panic on reading other peoples' cases like I did please.

I know the wait is very very stressful, however make sure you do not let it get onto you like it did to me. Staying calm is hard, but try. 

If you have an agent try following up through the agent because a couple of times the immix people who received my calls have given me different answers to the same questions and also asked me to contact via agent, not directly. 

Thank you very much! This forum has been my only support after my family back in my home country.

I will pray for all of you waiting. Cheers!

Congrats!!! :-D This is awesome - thanks for your recommendations - I have never contacted immi and was tempted to do it today but I will hold off.

21 minutes ago, Alice 1 said:

Is it your transit visa or 187



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It's a DE 186 application, so technically I am still within the communicated timelines.

My previous 457 visa and my current DE 186 application are for the same job and same occupation (marketing specialist) - I have been in the same position for over 2 years - my employer is a big international company (no turnover issue).

10 minutes ago, Alice 1 said:

Same here


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I hear you, my 457 has expired in January and since then I am on bridging visa. 

4 minutes ago, paramsahota said:

My agent also said immi refused 30 to 35 files in two weeks.....i m in depression becoz it's 19 months now but still no case officer allocated yet....and visa will expired in 2 months and in hairdressing 

That's pretty stressful. Has your agent any explanation on why your file is taking so long? 

17 minutes ago, Alice 1 said:

My MA said Immi refusing
Many application without asking any thing due to financial conditions of business


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Do they give any reasons for the refusal?

Hey guys, does anybody know if the department is still processing April? 

I am curious on how the timelines will look like for DE once they are updated this month: http://www.border.gov.au/about/access-accountability/service-standards/global-visa-citizenship-processing-times

22 hours ago, JaysonLuck said:

We need many senators to help us change their new rules.

 

Sure. I guess it's always good to have the option to give a feedback.

54 minutes ago, Violet2016 said:

Hi guys, finally I got my PR visa granted today, couldn't help crying for a while. It's been a long time painstaking wait since last Dec, I've got a lot of support and comfort from this forum during the painful waiting. Here is my timeline, hope it will be helpful to those who still waiting for their visa, my timeline shows that nothing can be done except waiting in patience, although it's very hard to endure. 

Nomination applied in June 2015

Nomination granted in Dec.2015

Visa applied on 13,May 2016

Medical examination required on 12,Dec. and submitted the next day

Form 815 required on 16,Jan. 2017 and submitted the next day

Independent evidence required for my big daughter on 15,Feb. and submitted the next day

Form 80 required on 27 Feb. and submitted the next day

Immi called my employer on 15,March

Asked for VAC2 payment on !6,March

Visa granted 02,May 2017

DE，HR，3PPL，marketing specialist.

Congratulations - this is very well deserved. 

May I ask you if you applied onshore or offshore?

40 minutes ago, anupraj said:

Hi if u dont mind, may i know when u had applied and what ur occupation was?? Neway a big congratz

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Hi there, Izzie applied 8 April 2016. 

2 hours ago, Izzielizzie said:

FINALLY - best news ever oh my god. After nearly a decade we're permanent residents!!! We got the grant early today. It hasn't fully sunk in yet. I haven't cried in relief yet! 

Thank you to everyone for the support and for sharing your experiences - it has made a big difference knowing we're not alone. I'm updating my details on the spreadsheet now, along with my signature here. 

Good luck to everyone - hang in there I know how shockingly rough the wait is - I hope you get your good news sooner rather than later! Shout out to my fellow comrades waiting for a year and longer @Zee14042016 @badaich89 @Raj1985 @Apr 2016 and to other Marketing Specialists @Jess6 - praying for you guys!!

Finally!!!! I am so happy for you and your family  This is a wonderful way to start the week and the month of May!!! All the best xoxo

17 hours ago, bwatt99 said:

So my wife who was on a partner visa which is 2 yrs temp and 2 yrs pr.

As she was due apply for citizenship 1st june does she apply or not?

If under old rules she will have been here 4 yrs total in june but if going by new rules she will only have in that 4 yrs in july this year only have 3 yrs of pr to date.

As new rules require 4 yrs of pr she now waits another year.

But will they say if she calls if eligible or will they say apply next year and these rules have not passed yet.

If they don't pass then she has a head start in the process or are they just going to say sorry you cant apply till next year?

Has anyone who was due to apply since these new rules do so that where ok in old rules or but not in new rules.

As wife has 4 weeks left before applying under old rules i wonder if she can or not.

It's likely she will not be able to - you can give feedback until June 1st. 

This article shows an official government email address to express your views: http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/hindi/en/article/2017/04/21/6-new-requirements-acquire-australian-citizenship

On 27/04/2017 at 6:12 AM, Beffers said:

You're right.  There's lots of Brits that do that.  It would be interesting to see if any/many would renounce their British citizenship in favour of Australia. I actually think this should be a condition of applying for Citizenship in any country. If you want Citizenship, then prove your allegiance unequivocally. 

People still have family in their home country.

Life is full of unexpected events and a committed person can have reasons to return back "home".

Would you want them to be unable to go "home" if they had to take care of a loved one in a critical situation? 

I believe in a free world and have no problem seeing people wanting to explore the world.

At the end of the day, during their time in a country, people participate positively to its economy and support the community.

Why would you prevent them from becoming a citizen after a few years?

I also do not see why it would be positive to prevent Australian Citizens to have dual citizenship. Why is that good to prevent people from going "home" if they want or need to?

Loving people is mostly accepting to let them go. Otherwise that's not love, that's self interest. 

13 hours ago, unzippy said:

Ok, governed was the wrong word 

My point is, despite sharing the Queen, despite the Union Jack being part of the Australian flag, despite both being Commonwealth countries - a French/Dutch/Polish person can come and work in the UK easier than Australian (currently!).

Yes indeed because the UK is still part of the EU. You will find a lot of Brits in France, Germany, Poland and the Netherlands as well.

On 23/04/2017 at 8:20 AM, MaggieMay24 said:

Fair is a relative term.  What's fair to one person will seem unfair to someone else.  And the government isn't making this change to be fair to employers, they're focused on Australian workers.  Well really they're focused on Australian voters, but they hope that's the same thing.

We will see pretty quickly on how positive this changes will be on the Australian job markets. 

8 hours ago, MaggieMay24 said:

Pro rata occupations have nothing to do with employer-sponsored visas so this isn't something that will impact 186 applicants.

Hi Maggie, I am sorry to jump in - maybe not officially but unofficially this is difficult to believe.

I have been around on that forum for close to a year and while I long believed that the rules were clear and fair, I have learnt through experience and observation that this does not seem to be the case.

9 hours ago, Anthonyqueen said:

Sorry guys, this is what I just read, is disgusting! 

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/04/26/its-someone-asked-you-leave-your-child-victims-australias-immigration-changes

I am on a Bridging Visa A waiting for my 186 visa with Marketing Specialist occupation. 

During my 5 years here, I have helped small Australian Businesses to grow and create jobs through my marketing skills which are not transferrable. I also paid taxes of course.

I think there is a big lack of understanding when it comes to that specific occupation. This is a broad occupation that requires more than a degree, it's about experience, innovation, relationship and industry knowledge.

44 minutes ago, mahenderntpc said:

hi mate mine is one year two months

 

You should reach out.

If they process 75% of DE applications in 10 months and 90% in 12 months. Yours should now be processed after more than 14 months.

Oh and you are transition? So yeah, your file should be processed. They process 75% of transition applications in 8 months and 90% of 9 months.

For those who prefer an open spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15vELBrMvzNYP9qesILSVBlozJZ7o04VXUhfiX-dBA0k/edit?usp=sharing 

Anthon Souman - Can you re-open the spreadsheet?

You are currently pushing people to ask access to it by giving away their email address to you.

26 minutes ago, Praveen Reddy said:

Am I the only person to find that the 186 timeline spreadsheet was changed from editable mode to read only mode.

Is this issue only for me or to everyone?

As we can see many guys who are not following the forum are following the spreadsheet. So I think it's better to let them add their own details.

I completely agree, I have been on that forum for almost a year and the spreadsheet has always worked well as an open document...

On top of that, people should be allowed to remove their info if they wanted to... At the end of the day, that's personal info and people do not necessarily want to share their email address... If they even have a gmail one...

48 minutes ago, EmmaR said:

I completely agree. It was always even on a 457 visa a hard process but the option was there to consider something long term. I also can't see employers going through an even longer sponsorship application and approval to only have someone for 2 years max! 

This is also likely to impact the local tech industry, this article is quite interesting: http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/the-100000-job-no-australian-is-qualified-to-do/news-story/400cbc76d5b8fdb0e427481b0435e7d8

53 minutes ago, PierreC said:

ICT Sales Rep is still on the list for Direct Entry, I just checked.

 

Sorry to hear this Sue

 

 

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I actually called my MA today for peace of mind because Marketing Specialist is on the STSOL. She was super reassuring and told me that my application (186 DE) would not be impacted by the changes. Still after 10 months in the wait, it's hard not to be concerned by the current changes.

Anyways, coming from the tech industry, I find that the following article explains pretty well the consequences the recent changes might have on the ability for Australia to innovate in that sector: http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/the-100000-job-no-australian-is-qualified-to-do/news-story/400cbc76d5b8fdb0e427481b0435e7d8

The most disappointing part for me is that Malcolm Turnbull knows better than anyone else how valuable the tech industry (check OzEmail) can be. 

1 hour ago, Sue2017 said:

Guys Quite bad new from my end : since the new 457 abolish and 186 has taken place it has affected lots of visa application hence my nomination has been refused due to new rules. My MA has advised before they cancel the 186 visa application i need to lodge a new nomination with new guidelines.

not sure what t do ? i am currently on 457 but then i dont work for my previous employer anymore so they might cancel 457 too. 

Any advice on canadian express entry before i pack up, again if any one need car, furniture and all more than welcome to contact me if i have to pack up..

Good luck guys

So sorry to hear this. I hope you get a successful process for Canada! 

2 hours ago, fensaddler said:

Certainly good advice to get yourself as permanent as you can as soon as you can.  I'm fine with Aus making policy decisions about migration levels intake policies etc - this is all entirely reasonable, but what really irks me is that once again this is poorly thought through, badly communicated, populist and significantly retrospective.  If you're going to introduce policy change, think it through, plan for the consequences to those impacted, and communicate clearly.  Particularly, don't move the goalposts on people who've made life changing decisions on the basis of your former policy - honour your moral undertakings as a country.

The other thing which really troubles me is the xenophobic glee with which this has been greeted.  Ironically, Australia is one of the most successful multicultural countries in the world, but you wouldn't know it given public attitudes to migration.  And don't get me started on the hypocrisy of settled migrants, and the descendants of migrants, being so gleefully determined to drag up the ladder behind them - not based on any real understanding of the economic or social implications, but essentially out of prejudice (and sometimes flat out racism).  You could stop migration tomorrow, and not only would Australia find it had a whole host of new problems (where's the doctor, dude?), but its existing problems that some attribute to migration - housing prices and speculation, unemployment and underemployment, transport congestion - would not go away, because the root causes aren't all about migration. It's just a convenient scapegoat that prevents pollies on both sides from having the gumption to actually tackle, and acknowledge, the real problems and their root causes.   And a country which closes its doors closes its mind too...  Sorry rant over...

Unfortunately the whole world - not only Australia - is entering an era that is everything but open. This is very sad, irrational and led by fear.