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On 24/02/2023 at 20:08, Madhuri said:

but what if my agent didn't do a proper submission? I lost trust in them , the very next day after agent got invitation they sent me $3643 quote for skill assessment and advised me to go for it asap as a plan B. 

I guess my agent already decided my outcome after seeing my  aat member's name, I do not want to mention her name  here, everyone says its not easy with her , even if we have tons of evidences and supporting documents , she will come up with something new  and refuse

Yo don’t lose hope. I got her as well, i prepared for the worst because my owner works in the business as well but I still got PR after all 

On 22/11/2022 at 09:04, Charlie6002 said:

Hi guys,

just wondering if someone can offer me some advice. My nomination was rejected in July 2019 followed by my visa in September 2019. Both parts appealed to AAT. I have remained on a bridging visa for the last three years. 
 

AAT finally opened my case and requested further information - submitted in august 2022. I’ve just received a notification that they have requested a hearing 22nd December (nice little Christmas present).

now my question is - should they refuse the nomination/visa, or states online I would have 35 days to leave the country. Can this be extended? Would I be able to apply for another bridging visa to give me more time to leave? 
 

I’ve been in Australia for 10 years, like I don’t think I could pack my life up in 35 days especially with a 6 month old baby in tow. They say to be prepared to leave but I don’t think that’s possible. I have a life here, work, lease, belongings. 
 

Im not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic and make sure I know all my options. I’m sick of fighting so should the AAT agree with the refusal. I’m not going to fight it anymore. I just can’t believe they only give you 35 days so I’m hoping this can be extended. 
 

Thanks so much in advance. 
 

Charlie 

If your employer supports you, you should be fine really. If it is not, you can try to go for skill assessment to apply 491,190,494 as it is not subject to s48.

You can extend the visa by applying on federal after AAT, which may extend for another year or two while you’re thinking of other ways

On 22/11/2022 at 09:24, MilaMocha said:

The finalised doesn’t refer to the health checks but to the application itself. I am not looking under health assessment but under application home.

I know it’s not about the health check because I have another application in ImmiAccount which was withdrawn and the status to the name says withdrawn. This one now shows finalised.

There shouldn’t be any wait at this stage.

Yours’s probably different than mine then. My partner health check’s done, then his name is from in process to finalized. While my medical’s not progress yet (doing a week later due to some health complications) - then after my medical was approved then mine changed from in progress to finalize 

however doesn’t matter, what you do is wait 

8 hours ago, MilaMocha said:

There’s nothing further to request. Police check and medical check were provided and marked as received/no further action required.

 

Your name is finalized because your health check is done. Now you just need to wait, give them a call won't make it faster because I did the same. But mine is exactly 28 days after my document was requested.

7 hours ago, fabian said:

Congratulations !!! How long did it take to get your visa granted after you submitted your Police Check and medical? 

I think my medical was sent and approved on 20/9/22 but doesn't matter, they wait 28-30 days usually after requesting documents. The CO who requested my documents and the one who approved my visa is different.

4 hours ago, MilaMocha said:

Understood, I too am talking about the nomination decision. It can be remitted or substituted, unless affirmed, so my question is was your nomination decision remitted or substituted.

 Not talking about individual visas (PR).

I heard that substituted decision are fast-tracked to and by Immi.

Thanks

I think waiting long or not depends on your luck as well. There are no systems in immi

4 hours ago, surfonsea said:

What does immiaccount's status turns like as soon the case gets allocated to an officer? 

 

As far as i know AAT has no jurisdiction to substitute and approve a visa PR, but can 'substitutes a decision approving the nomination'. We are talking about the nomination, which is different. Also my nomination has been approved by AAT, but the visa was remitted for a review since we need to provide addictional documents as AFP and medical, which AAT is not entitled to ask, and eventually asking for employer letter stating position available for the next two years. Check your immiaccount and see whats the status like, mine is still finalized and hasnt moved from there, @Paul0015 is correct, immi sometimes takes time to allocate it, but lately many cases have been processed in just few days, my friend won aat in may and got immi s56 in july, two months later, and received his PR in august, totally 3 months. I have no idea what this would depend from, maybe different state office and different work loads and time frame, or some officer is just negligent and takes time, but we can only wait.

Your occupation? It's a bit long to wait for a month, but I did see some people got requested 2 months after AAT. They will first approve your nomination, the email will be sent to your agent/you. Then they may request medical/pc as well on the same day, which is my case.

Hi guys long time no see. Just wanna share my timeline- Cafe manager

04/2019- AAT applied

03/2022- AAT opened, request for more info

31/08/2022- Hearing, after hearing asking for 1 more document

09/09/2022- AAT approved my nomination, visa remitted

13/09/2022 - Visa file opened, ask for medical and police check

14/10/2022 - Visa approved

This forum helps me a lot through hard times, I wish you guys all the best

On 07/08/2022 at 21:55, MilaMocha said:

Keep us posted!! You got this.

My nomination has been approved today 

4 hours ago, Urgent help said:

Hi Everyone 

just found this forum, hope someone can advise me.

applied 187 2019 restaurant manager

nomination approved 2021

s56 asked in 2022( medical afp and position availability)

but just got s57(natural justices)

they said business has been closed so might be they will refuse my visa but nomination already approved and company still activate but business is closed.

any idea what should i reply ?

Thanks in advance 

S57 is very serious you should consult an agent, I don’t think it helps asking on here. S57 if answers wrong you can face 10 years ban

14 hours ago, Kabi said:

Hi guys  just an update. My file has open yesterday.  Asking for business documents of last 2 years. Just a quick question   I am thinking to change my migration agent in the meantime of process. Is it safe to do. Please suggest. Thanks. 

Yes it is. But you only have a certain amount of time to submit the documents so it’s a bit rush to find an agent to accept yours now

On 10/08/2022 at 19:19, DannyV said:

Hey guys……

I am pleased to announce that i got my golden email from Home Affair yesterday aftter 5 years. Below is my timeline

06/2017: visa and nomination lodged 187 DE for Cafe/Restaurant Manager in WA

01/2019: nomination refused with bloody reason: the business didnt have genuine reason to hire full time manager and then visa application refused.

02/2019: AAT review submitted.

02/2022: AAT requested to provide supporting document

06/2022: AAT set aside re Nomination, visa application remitted to Home Affair. 
2 days later: S56 from Home Affair to provide police clearance and health check

07/2022: police clearances submitted. Health assessment completed

08/08/2022: visa grant……

It was such a lengthy and stressful period that it affected to my mental health and almost gave up end of the day for many reasons as many here might be in the similar situation: family, covid pandemic, the ridiculous reason that Home Affair refused our case and so on. 
 

However, every cloud has silver ligning. I did have countless support from family, local community and you guys here who had given hopes and empathy. I am thankful for those who have shared their cases and advice. 
 

Below is some tips from me:

- If you are still waiting so your case will be opened by AAT, please follow the statistics from their website which for me gives you the estimated waiting time. You might also check the updates from people here with their timeline. I believe it is helpful to give you an idea where your case is. Therefore it does get yourself well-prepared, saying police clearances, passport (if that expired or about to). For example in November 2021, i had kept following this forum and AAT website and acknowledged that i might have to wait roundabout 30 something months. Considering during the pandemic everything does take time, in January i did apply for passport renewal ( as it would be expired soon) and police clearances both AFP clearance and oversea one. I also asked the accountant of our business to get our financial records updated such as BAS, income tax returns, payroll reports… i mean as much as possible with regard to the operation of our business. If you follow this website, you definitely can have some ideas what sort of documents that AAT might require base on the refusal. In my case, they asked: Business registration and history from ASIC, updated Quarterly BAS for September, December quarters, financial reports for 2020 and 2021, organisational structure, my job description/duties, updated employment contract, the prove of regional body certicate, prove of job advertising back in 2017 when i applied to job and 2 more minor things. When we received this letter from AAT to request documents, we had already got almost everything!!!!

- Health check appointment does take time. When we received the S56 for health check, we tried to book the appointment but it took us 1 month. Not many appointments were available and again Covid sucks! With this point, i mean that you might try to save your health check appointment as soon as you could. I wasnt sure if you could do the health assessment before S56 sent out considering It is valid 12 months. Again, i am unsure. 
 

- immi account: This is highly recommended. As visa applicant, we can create our immi account eventhough our visa application is lodged by agent. You then can import the application and track it. From there you can see the status, updates, messages and attachments. You can also see what documents you or the agent has uploaded. At this point, after the health check cleared, what we found was my partner’s oversea police clearance was missing which we thought it should’ve been in before ( as we provided everything when s56 was issued). I then contacted to my agent and he did attached it again, so not sure if he forgot or due to some technical issues. Anyway my point is immi account gave me the access to see how my case was and check if the requested documents have been submitted.

- last but not least, as many say, live your life, stay positive. I know said is easier than done especially for us who (used to) desperately wait for our golden day. You still have your family, your work colleagues, your community who are always with you. If you find it difficult to express your feelings while you hopelessly wait, then reach out councillors, specialists. I am sure they are willing to help you out. 
 

I guess that’s all…. I am glad i knew this forum and incredibly thankful for the people who keep this topic live. I do wish you all the best and surely i wish to see your posts telling the rest of this forum your good news.

God Bless!

 

 

 

Congratulations mate, do you have a hearing or remit without one?

1 minute ago, MilaMocha said:

Finally! Good luck!

 

Do you know who will be going to the hearing? 

 me and my boss

Just now, MilaMocha said:

You waited 4 months to get a hearing date? Or the hearing date is in four months from your submission?

Also, did they request anything else after the usual request (the default letter with 10 items)?

Thanks

No they didnt request anything else beside the items we sent

I submitted documents by request on 11/4, hear nothing back and got a hearing day 2 days ago.

1 minute ago, MilaMocha said:

How long after the deadline (to submit documents to AAT) did they reach out with a hearing date?

We’ve been waiting for exactly 5 weeks and nothing.

Mine is 4 months so I guess you still have to wait for a while.

Finally got my hearing on 25/08, member is D Kelly. I heard that she is really really strict. Working for 5 years for the employer and now this  Even though everything is genuine

3 hours ago, MilaMocha said:

The day has come. Our case was opened yesterday after 1107 days.

We received an Invitation to provide information with the usual details requested. We have 2 weeks to respond.

NSW Regional 

187 DE (Refusal after 17 months)

Restaurant manager

Finally, your month when you apply aat pls?

4 hours ago, MilaMocha said:

https://visaenvoy.com/occupations-requiring-skills-assessment-187-visa/

I just checked, different requirements for 187 before and after July 2018. I do remember my friends all applied on March 2018, which they need only certificate III + IV + Diploma for chef and that’s it. The guy above applied his visa at 2017, he should not need any skill assessment, assuming he has the right qualification. So the case officer who asks for his skill assessment, is wrong.

As of the 1st July 2018 the following requirements will apply to Direct Entry Subclass 187 visas as per the Department of Home Affairs website:

With regard to the skills requirement for this visa subclass, at the time of lodgement the applicant MUST have:

At least 3 years of relevant working experience; and A positive, valid skills assessment in the nominated occupation from the relevant assessing authority.

These requirements will not apply to the Temporary Resident Transitional stream at this stage.

35 minutes ago, Madhuri said:

Me too asked my agent and he said no need of skill assessment , if case officer asks they will give  appropriate reply . 
 

 

Yes some case officers don’t check at all, they may not even know the difference between 186 (which needs skill assessment) and 187

On 01/06/2022 at 15:18, JezzNg said:

Mine is direct entry stream. So i think you should get your skill assessment ready, only if they ask for it. There is always better to be well prepared than not enough like me. It's not fun feeling nervous everyday

Weird. I checked, there’s no regulation request skill assessment for 187. We don’t need it, and my friends- 3 of them got sponsored for chef, none needs skill assessment.

Check with my agent - he said no. If any agents ask for it, ask them a copy of legislation 

1 minute ago, Ahsanul said:

Hello friends, I’m in the same boat

won AAT 15 Feb 2022

Nomination approved 17 March 

status changed to Further Assessment 

Doc requested S56, medical and Afp 21 March 

submitted everything 31st March

checking immi account every hour during business hours ………

Hi, can you give us more info? When did you apply aat, when they open your documents and hearing and your occupation please

i’m still waiting for aat

On 05/04/2022 at 16:05, Kabi said:

Hi mate, which state and occupation. I am also in same boat. What documentation they requested?

Everything immi asked originally but updated version from the last 2 years. 

Aat opened mine file 03/05/2019

Open 28/03/2022. Nearly 3 years

On 09/03/2022 at 15:15, Madhuri said:

hi ,are you from  Qld ?

I’m from NSW

Mine is April 2019

On 01/03/2022 at 00:06, NickB89 said:

Hi All, asking on behalf of my friend.

 

He has 10+ years of experience as a sous chef. He wants to migrate to Australia with his family and has applied for 491 but I don't think he will get an invite anytime soon. Meanwhile, he got a job offer from Melbourne and they are sponsoring him 482 for 2yr and telling him that they will help him to file PR(ENS most probably, but I don't know). They are offering him 60k + super (Wed- Sunday work)

Can anyone recommend if this will be a good move to migrate to Aus with 482? or any other recommendation you can give.

About him: He is married and has 1 kid.

PS: I am in IT, so I don't know about this chef/cook line of work.

That’s a bit low for a sous chef. I am a regular cook and i got 61k + super

On 16/02/2022 at 17:18, shakshi185 said:

congratulations. can you plz let me know , what type of question they ask in hearing. my hearing will be coming soon. plz help me . 

How long did you wait for aat to open?