Seriously guys, with the expensive visa fees I expect the immigration to work better than that. Now they're just trying to find an excuse to refuse the visa with nonsense reasons and assumptions, longer timeframe and stuffs. I'm so sick of it. If there's any problems with my visa I will consider moving to Canada. 

7 minutes ago, Hakan said:

I m sorry because i might be wrong but as far as i know, people on this forum are on bridging visa and waiting for the approval for their 187 RSMS visa. So i think, they do need to stay and work with the same employer for at least two years.

He asked if he can leave the employer early, he got 187 for 9 months but he got bullied at work.

So the guy after that said Immigration can cancel the 187 visa if you broke the rules (stayed with the same employer for 2 years).

However, the new citizenship rule got cancelled, means you can apply for citizenship if you stay in Aus for 4 years with 1 year on PR. If you have this condition, then you only need to work 1 year PR and then apply citizenship immediately, if you pass the test, nobody can cancel your citizenship, you don't need to oblige to stay in regional area or stay with the employer for 2 years.

3 hours ago, simar27 said:

he applied 16 april onshore NSW

 

these are the resons for refusal

 

Firstly, the applicant provided an unaudited Financial Statement which includes figures for

the financial years 2014 and 2015

Secondly, the applicant confirmed in the application form that the business is employing

two Australian citizens and permanent residents and two foreign employees. The gross

payroll expenditure of the business in the past 12 months (from 16 April 2015 to 16 April

2016) is $75,000.00

 

Thirdly, the applicant confirmed in the list of employees provided with the organizational

structure that the business is employing six staff including one full time Director, a full time

manager (nominee), one full time cook, and three staff (kitchen and waiting staff). The total

number of staff as per application form is four; a clear contradiction of the number of staff

working for the business.

In light of the fact that no verifiable evidence of sustainable source of income has been

provided, the conflicting information regarding the payroll expenditure of the business in the

past twelve months, and insufficient payroll expenditure during the last twelve months, I find

that the nominator has not demonstrated the financial capacity to be able to pay the full-time

salary for the nominated position for at least 2 years.

Based on the information provided, I do not find that the nominee is to be engaged under the

direct control of the nominator, or that the nominee will be employed on a full-time basis in

the position for at least 2 years.

 

So he's already worked for the nominator when he applied? Does he appeal the application after that?

1 hour ago, simar27 said:

one of my friend applied for nomination cafe and restaurant manager april 2016 he got refusal from immigration 28 sep 2017. will share details soon

 

 

 

 

Is he offshore or onshore and did he have any qualifications?

Australia's visa fee is amongst one of the most expensive visa fee in the world plus service is getting super slow compared to others lol.

Hi

 Can anhone please explain what's the difference between RCB and nomination?

Mohammed, it seems like you have a lot of experiences. Why don't you apply 457 for chef, then earn another year of experience and apply for 186 entry instead of risking going to RSMS?

1 minute ago, mjay said:

My golden ticket arrived today!
DE
Nomination and Visa 16/12/16
Camping and caravan manager
5 people from UK
So happy! Hope you all get news soon!


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Congratulations!!!! Any documents requested?

2 hours ago, Mmalik said:

Hi 

I still didn't find any reason for refusal but into required documents I find only declaration form.

i attached my wife application later on.

it could be the reason for refusal?

Does it state at the start that the nomination has been refused?

as the declaration form stated i guess it is this one: http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work-1/payment-for-visas-declaration-requirement

they may suspect that you may pay for the visa sponsorship. You just need to read the documents carefully and tick in the "I have not engaged....". It is a form that needed for both employees and nominators with the new law.

i guess your nomination is not refused yet, otherwise they will not send you this form.

4 hours ago, Mmalik said:

Hi 

I applied 23 June 2016 for accountant.

11 sep 2017 nomination refused and didn't receive any reason. They gave me 28 days to apply for review.

i came overseas 27 aug 2017 and granted bridging which will expire 23/11/2017.

Is there any issues on arrival?

Sorry to hear that. There should be a reason for refusal in the letter at the bottom, you got your RCB approved? 

If your visa is not refused yet you can com back to Aus on your bridging visa, is it bridging visa B?

27 minutes ago, Ashley 86 said:

Yes, if business is sponsoring you on 187 and no previous sponsorship, there is no requirement for Training Benchmark.

From March 2018: Training requirement: Employers nominating a worker for a visa will be required to pay a contribution to the Skilling Australians Fund. The contribution will be:

-          payable in full at the time the worker is nominated;

-           $1,200 per year or part year for small businesses (those with annual turnover of less than $10 million) and $1,800 per year or part year for other businesses.

Hmmmm, i think it's a bit too early to think about next year now with all the 3 years experience requirement and more stuffs to come.

25 minutes ago, Ashley 86 said:

If Sponsoring business has employees on 457/186, they have to meet the training benchmark (1% or 2% of Business payroll).

For 187 there is no requirement to meet the training benchmark, but when you apply, all details of sponsoring business will be checked; and if sponsoring business has sponsor for 457/186 visa, they must have to fulfil the training benchmark requirement and it includes the payroll of business not just payroll of sponsored employees only.

Training Benchmark A/B is defined as expenditure made in the previous financial year or the previous 12 months.

The business must show recent expenditure at the required level, and also commit to maintaining this level of funding for each 12 months period following approval of the sponsorship.

Oh i see, so if my sponsoring business never sponsor anyone before, they do not have to fulfil it right? They never sponsor anyone before and all of the employees are citizens

3 minutes ago, Ashley 86 said:

Depends...

If Business has sponsored someone before on 457, they have to meet the training benchmark requirement....

Yes I heard that if you apply through 187 or 186 TST you need to meet the training benchmark but 187 direct entry doesn't need to.

20 minutes ago, Hakan said:

Hi

What is this training requirements that people talk about?? Does that apply to those who have diploma?? Or does that just apply to those whp habe certs?

I thought that 187 direct entry doesn't need training benchmark???

9 minutes ago, Toanvu said:

Hi Guys, Immi just requested more information for both nomination and visa. I hope my turn is right in the corner. 

Restaurant Manager. DE, SA. HR. 4 people. Nomination and visa applied middle June 2016. 

Congrats!! What did they request?

4 minutes ago, Xman said:

Was it 187 DE?

F & B manager stands for?

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Food and Beverage manager, direct entry.

I'm not sure why your agent assumed that restaurant manager and cooks are getting refused but I see somewhere said that if the application doesn't have enough documents it will be refused straight away without any further requesting documents.

I got a friend from high risk country applied 13/1/2017 Nomination and Visa together as an F&B manager and got his visa 25/05/2017. I'm not sure why his visa is so fast but his documents are decision ready.

24 minutes ago, YNNUS said:

Hi does anyone knows what is third party check or external check?

I'm not sure but there's a friend of my got a call from immigration. He works as a cook but in the contract said that he's a chef. CO called the human resource and got his visa cancelled. Be careful.

On 8/23/2017 at 19:26, Xman said:

Dude check in box. I have sent format to u. Thanks

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can you send it to me as well?

From an agent' blog

DIBP Fast Refusals of 186/187 Nominations and Visas As Documents are Assessed Quickly After Lodgement 

Visa applicants and migration agents are reporting fast refusals of subclass 186 (ENS) and 187 (RSMS) nominations and visa applications in some cases happening only a few weeks after lodgement, despite the estimated processing time for these visas is over 6 months.

The refusals are apparently occurring in cases where all necessary documents have not been uploaded at the time the assessment is done. In these cases, no request letter is sent and the visa is refused with no notice to the applicant or opportunity to address the needed documents.

There is no requirement that DIBP send a request letter in cases where incomplete documentation is provided for visa application, however historically DIBP has sent request letters to applicants if there are documents missing by the time the application is assessed. Given the long processing times for applications, it appears some applicants assumed they had more time before DIBP would check the applications.

1 hour ago, Jason2017 said:

Hi guys, I've got my 187 visa today. It took 4 months since we submitted our application. I am pleased with such a quick decision.

My partner and I arrived in Australia in January 2017 with 456 visa. I work at a regional university.

The 187 nomination application was submitted in 20 March 2017. We submitted the visa application on 1 April.

Both the nomination and the visa were approved on 7 August 2017.

We re-used the majority of the 456 application materials to the 187 applications. 

All the best for those who are still in the queue. 

 

 

Congratulations What is your occupation? You mean 457 visa right?

9 minutes ago, indiana said:

Time to share my happy news. Got our visa approved today.

 Rcb approved in somwhere middle of November 2016. Visa and nomination got granted today. Documents were requested for both nomination and visa on 30 june 2017. For nomination, I had to do some changes in my job contract. For visa-  medicals, new pccs for my husband for australia and india, proof of relationship.

Rcb, nomination, visa - 31/10/2016

Occupation- early childhood

Applicants-2 (primary applicant onshore)  (secondary offshore)

ACT

Did you get your health check before or after allocating? thanks

I just got news from my agent about a Food and Beverage Manager and a Motor Mechanic visa 187 granted at the same day

F&B, HR,not sure where

Nomination and visa: 13/1/2017

Visa granted: 25/05/2017

Yes, you're not reading it wrong, he's been granted a visa in 4 months.

Motor Mechanic, HR, NSW

Nomination and visa: 16/10/2016

Granted: 25/05/2017

On 5/9/2017 at 10:36 PM, 1993vikram said:

Same as you mine
24 aug 2016 nomination applied
NSW retail manager


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Glad I have someone applying NSW franchisee, same as me. Your RCB is approved?