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  1. Good day. I have a question with regards to claiming points on work experience. My husband works as an office manager for his own business since 2011, he does not pay himself a salary. The previous owner of that business before it was transferred under his name is his mother. He's been working for the said business since 2006. When his mother still owned the business, my husband is given a salary but with no payslip. My question is, can we apply for pr and not claim points for work experience? He already has a positive assessment from VETASSESS. He's able to meet the 60 points thru age, education, IELTS and state sponsorship. Is it possible to do this? Reason is because we could only prove the 3 years of his work. Thank you.
  2. Hi. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Here's my story: I applied for a 190 visa as a Human Resource Adviser for my husbands business (pawnshop/money changer). I got a positive assessment from VETASSESS. On mid August, we got a visit from an integrity officer from the AU embassy in Manila. My husband and I were not in the office during that time. They interviewed one of our employees (head cashier). Our employees doesn't know that we applied for an AU Visa. Below is the explanation why i was not awarded the 10 points for work experience, thus reducing my claimed points from 65 to 55, hence the Visa Refusal. (1) "On 14 August 2013 this office conducted an investigation into your employment with ____________________. Our officer visited the premises of your employer and spoke to some of the staff attending the shop. (2) The staff at the shop advised our officers that the shop is a family business and your spouse is the manager of the shop and you assist him in the management of the business including hiring of personnel. (3) Your staff advised our officers that there are four (4) current employees. Namely: 2 cashiers, 1 filing clerk and 1 ticket writer, all of whom are long term employees. (4) The staff further advised our officer that you only assist in the management of the business including hiring of personnel. After receiving a phone call the staff changed her information that there are 10 employees but they are not present. The staff advised our officers that staff use time cards to report attendance but later said that the shop keeps a notebook of staff attendance but they are not allowed to show it to anybody. (5) The next day you contacted our officers and informed them that since they maintain regular employees for many years there is no need to perform personnel tasks on a daily basis. You do not perform the duties the duties and tasks such as study and interpret legislations, collective agreements and employment contracts, developing, planning and formulating enterprise agreements etc. (6) Based on the information you provided to our officers, together with information collated at the time of visit I have determined that the tasks and duties you performed are closely related of to that of business owner or shop manager ANZSCO 14211 which is not included in the Skilled Migration List and therefore no points are awarded. You do not perform the majority of tasks and duties of a Human Resource Adviser (ANZSCO 14211)." (2) As per our cashier, she was asked what I do at the shop, our cashier said I am the HR Adviser and my huband is the business owner as well as the office manager (3) When she was asked how many employees are at the shop, she said there are currently 4 employees present. She was not asked the total number of employees. (4) When our cashier was asked what else I do at the shop, she said she does not know every task that I do, what she knows is I do the interviews and hiring and I facilitate payments, records etc. for our sss/philhealth and pag-ibig (pension plan, healthcare and housing loan). While they were talking, our cashier received a call from a customer asking for the rate (as per our cashier). Our cashier told me that she received a number of calls during the interview/conversation. She said she was asked some more questions like what time I go to work, how long I stay there as well as my husbands work schedule. During the conversation (as what is told me by our cashier), she informed the officer that the total number of employees is 10 but we have some staff that are not reporting to work, the officer said, “oh, AWOL (absent without leave)”. Why is it insinuated that after receiving a call, she changed her statement regarding the number of employees, I believe what she did was just inform the officer the total number of employees. Regarding the time card, I asked our cashier if she told the officer if we have a time card, she said what she told him is that we have a log book/notebook wherein they sign their initials when they report for work. She said she even pointed to the officer where the notebook is. The officer asked if he could take a look at the notebook, one of our staff in the back office heard the request and called her attention to remind her that they are not allowed to show office records to anyone outside the office (it is our company policy, for security reasons, we are not allowed to show any records or divulge any information about the company and our employees). The officer also asked her if I informed them that someone from the AU Embassy is coming for a visit, she said “no, I am actually surprised of your visit” (I did not tell our employees that I was applying for an AU visa). Our cashier said that as the officer was about to leave, he said “sorry na lang hindi ko nakausap si madam” (sorry I was not able to talk to madam). Our cashier said he said this with a smile and in sort of a sarcastic tone. (5) The nextday, I called the integrity officer. i did not inform the officer that there is no need to perform personnel tasks on a daily basis. he asked me if i could honestly say that 99% of my day is spent doing hr tasks, i said no, not 99% of my day. And no, i do not perform this particular task (legislation, collective agreement....) because we are just a small business and our staff does not have a union, therefore no need for this task. Why is this particular task being forced upon me, does this mean that because I do not perform this task, I am not an HR adviser? (6) How could he say that my duties is more related to that of a shop manager or business owner, that is my husbands job. And thru that interview, how did he assess that outcome. Why would VETASSESS give me a positive assessment if my duties are not fit to that of an HR Adviser. * Most of the tasks i perform is that of an hr adviser. If i remember correctly, during my conversation with the integrity officer he was already insisting that i am more of a shop manager. I honestly do not have any idea how he came up with that assessment. Why didn’t the case officer contact me after he was given the report so i could have explained? During my phone conversation with the integrity officer, he made the insinuation that he does not believe that we really have 10 employees because he did not see all of them. I informed him that during that day only 4 employees reported for work, 2 employees in the back office and the other cashier is out for lunch. I informed him that 1 of our employees just recently resigned and I have 2 employees who haven’t reported to work for a few days (return to work notice already sent to them) and 1 on day off and the supervisor was with my mother in law. He asked me why he did not see the other 2 employees who are in the back office, I told him that it is company policy that only the 2 cashiers are allowed to interact with the customers, the other employees stay in the back office to avoid connivance with fraudulent customers. He asked me why didn’t they come to the front window to show themselves when he has already introduced himself as someone from the AU embassy. First of all, I believe he did not ask them to do so, and I told him that we are strict when it comes to that policy. We have already encountered people who pretended to be our friend asking our staff for some money and information. I explained to him in detail why that policy is strictly enforced. He then asked me about the status of the business and whether my husband has an accounting notebook. I told him he does have that and we have an accountant to whom he submits it to. But the notebook is not in my possession because my husband is the one who handles that. My husband is the one who manages the business. Any help or input would be greatly appreciated. i refuse to accept this outcome. Is there anything i could do? We do not have a mara agent. processed this application on our own. Is there someone from the DIAC aside from our CO we could contact with regards to this. I feel like this decision was done in haste, it seems that the decision was only based on the interview and all the documents I have submitted was disregarded. Why was I not given a chance by the CO to explain after he received the report from the integrity officer? Sorry for the long post, i am really stressed for help. Thank you.
  3. Unfortunately i couldn't find a different occupation that would fit what i do. We will have my wife's occupation assessed instead. I hope it won't be money down the drain again. Wishing your daughter good luck with her reassessment.
  4. Yes one really needs to be patient when applying for pr in AU, have to do a lot of research to be able to find another way to apply. I just don't understand why they removed Office Manager on the list, it says on their report that they need 9600. If you don't mind me asking, what occupational code would your daughter be using now? We are thinking of having my wife's occupation assessed since hers is on the sol, that means we need a new application and shell out the full fee again :sad:
  5. Good day Val. I am in the same situation as you. Got my assessment as an office manager as positive on july 19. I am at a loss, the elation i felt when i found out that i got a positive assessment was quickly replaced by sadness and despair when is saw that office manager is no longer on the list. Any advice on what should be my next step?
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