benj1980

My advice here is 8 years old. But it requires the following:

• Age range taught
• Subject
• Amount of days teaching practice
• It also stated that my SCITT was an associated institution of the university

On 10/03/2023 at 07:25, Rob Frain said:

Don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but you haven’t got a chance. I tried with AITSL for over a year and they eventually said no. 
 

it doesn’t mean you can’t teach over there as the authorities will allow you to - it’s just aitsl that won’t accept the skills! 

Did you seek communication with the Head Registrar Rob? I know I am not the only person who came over via the SCITT route.

On 09/03/2023 at 21:52, SalT500 said:

Hi benj1980 -
Just wondering how you managed to get over on your SCITT qualification? Any advice?

For info: I have a PGCE through a SCITT partnership - because it is a partnership my cert is through the uni and I have got the uni to write observed teaching letter. What I don't have is the transcript....so am taking a bit of a gamble. I have later academic transcripts from further study which need to be included. I am taking a bet on them having some discretion but having spoken with ed dept in WA I don't think they deviate from the prescribed list much!

Any advice would be appreciated!! (Annoyingly on my first day of my PGCE someone said 'oh I hear they don't accept this in Australia' - didn't bat an eyelid at the time!!)

I requested a transcript and the request went to the Head Registrar. It was on letterheaded paper but i'd suggest it looked like it was created in Excel. The University in a reply to me stated that they had received quite a few of these requests and were looking at ways to work with the SCITT going forward. The University was confident that the SCITT was ensuring that what was on this piece of paper was being completed to the full. 

I tried without this transcript previously and it was rejected.

12 hours ago, Ausvisitor said:

As a teacher you need state licensing as well, and they almost always post new teachers into the rural community rather than the big cities.

Given that you might as well accept it and apply for a 491 (or 190) in the state you want to be in, as it will be quicker and either way you'll probably get your first job outside the city anyhow.

I'm sure there are other recent teacher migrants or migration agents that can explain this better as I'm only going off anecdotal stories

 

Also teacher shortage is really only in the BIG high profile subjects (maths science) the others have more applicants than vacancies

 

In WA they don't post you rural that was phased out about 10 years ago and that was more for new graduates. You can of course choose to go rural and there is potentially more jobs that way. Maths is also not the only shortage subject, schools are keen to listen to English, Science, Maths and Technologies at the moment. HASS not so much but there is some vacancies. There's always an abundance of Phys Ed teachers so a second subject is important. In my experience, currently involved in recruitment of teachers in WA.

18 minutes ago, Rob Frain said:

Everything crossed. I did spot they did 35,000 invites in December. I hope this doesn’t mean there will be a delay or a greatly reduced amount in the next invite stages. 

That is the million dollar question! But you've made some progress at least and that's a good feeling. What I can tell you is that all states have a teacher shortage when you move outside major cities. It would appear the Federal Government are responding to this, so I am watching with interest. I do have limited contact with schools in other states but we have had a couple of teachers move interstate and they mentioned shortages as well. Hopefully it all goes your way and you'll be able to pick up a suitable role asap. What do you teach? Universities are picking up again, but you should avoid the increase in grad teachers in WA. Please note Phys Ed is competitive here, it is useful to have a minor subject (other than health studies).

1 minute ago, Rob Frain said:

We’re on 80 points so fingers crossed we get an invite. I can’t see any timeline for the 189 anywhere on here. 

Maybe if anyone else knows where it has gone they'll let you know!

If they accepted 65 last time, you should be fine...

19 hours ago, Rob Frain said:

Pearson results through 2 hours after the exam - pretty much full marks! Superior 20 points thank you very much EOI now being done! 

Congratulations on that, so that's a couple of the big hurdles out the way. @paulhand suggested 65 points at the moment gets you through to visa processing. Do you know the timeline currently for this? We used to have a 189 visa timeline spreadsheet going. When is the next round due? Get in there!

On 25/01/2023 at 20:12, KCart said:

Thanks that’s so helpful..if we go there are no plans to return .I have asked them about Uni ,The older one (14) wants to do a trade -he is doing construction GCSE which he really enjoys so i’m hoping there may be something like this .The plan is Sydney -north shore -eastern suburbs but i realise i can’t apply to public schools without an address

If your eldest is not looking at University then get over when you can. There's plenty of trade certificates on offer at schools and TAFE. GCSEs as have been mentioned have no currency here.

Hi Matt

If you are moving over from the UK you need to embrace the new country. UK A-Levels do translate to Australian universities but they'd much prefer ATAR which is the 'equivalent' course. How would Mimi meet new friends, create memories, if she was doing distance learning at home to do A-Levels? I'm not even sure if it is possible, I've never heard of it. GCSEs mean nothing here, employers are interested in your Year 12 qualifications. These can be ATAR, General certificates similar to GCSE amongst others including trade type of certificates. You could explain what GCSEs are to an employer but if they're an old school Australian you may get an interesting response!

The school year here is different to the UK so you would need to work out what year Mimi would be in. Ideally being here for Year 11 and 12 would be the ideal. Two years of senior school education would provide her with the Australian education platform to go to University or further education.

It's hard to break from what you know and Mimi's age is an important consideration to a move. My children were all primary school age so it was different for me! However, it may be sacrifice that you have to make or decide you don't want to make in terms of disrupting her education. If she is University capable she could also complete a bridging course (they vary in length from a month to a year - online or face to face) and then start Uni. I had a student who submitted an essay and they accepted that he could write to university level. There's lots of options these days...

13 hours ago, Rob Frain said:

They've already been accepted once for my wife (we're using her qualifications) but due to covid the timer ran out and they won't let us use this certificate!

What a pain!

On 10/01/2023 at 14:20, Marisawright said:

The rule is that you need to be living in the UK for 3 years immediately before enrolment.  I clearly recall some universities exercising their discretion and waiving that requirement:  however that was for families returning to live in the UK permanently, not for a child returning on their own to study while their real home remained overseas.

Small correction -- English universities have an A level requirement.  Scotland's Highers are closer to Australia's HSC than to England's A levels, so I would expect Scottish universities to be more open to Australian HSC.

You'll find that all Universities will look at Australian qualifications on a case by case basis. It's not true that they'd simply look at A-Levels, in fact far from it. Universities actively recruit overseas students, whilst profitable they also fill up courses. I randomly selected Manchester University for a Business degree:

Undergraduate International Entry Requirements | Alliance MBS (manchester.ac.uk)

AITSL took me out 8 weeks. No point booking anything else until you know your qualifications will be accepted.

6 hours ago, Nemesis said:

But what visa are they on? Is it PR or something temporary like a 482?

They aren't fee paying students so I'd assume they are PR. Temporary residents pay school fees.

32 degrees here and we won the cricket so all good!

A Principal from Mt Gambier only called me this week, a family has moved to the area. Families have reasons to move in and out of these places. I think you very much need to do your own research and have your own plan for the property as has been suggested before. Only you know if the numbers will work in your favour. 

Prices have skyrocketed for all airlines at the moment so we are waiting to see if things settle down. Nothing discounted yet. Still great to read these posts and so many aren't linked to the major incidents!

I'm with Rammygirl. I wouldn't dream of living in the middle of a major city. Everything you need can also be found in the smaller cities that surround the bigger populated areas. I can be in Perth within an hour if need be and that's close enough for me. I'm a keen sports fan and you'll see me regularly at Dockers, Western Force games which takes just over an hour but with free transport to the game. I live on the coast and have bush and countryside to the south of me including wineries. Schools, sport clubs, theatre, restaurants, cafes are all readily available, hospitals could always offer more I guess. Much like what Rammygirl is suggesting you can build a great life without being in the middle of a big city, cheaper to live but in my view without missing out.

I've read this thread with interest. I wonder if the stance has softened at all. We are receiving an increase in overseas diagnosis of autism and the students are receiving disability funding. So they're receiving funding, including accessing a specialist autism program and have a visa. I also know a couple of students in Ed Support with an overseas diagnosis. They've proudly told me they are from England!

16 hours ago, Rob Frain said:

Interesting as Mandurah/Secret Harbour was where we have been looking as we have quite a few friends there.  I’m still scratching my head which one to go with. The WA education board are looking at my qualifications from the scitt to see if they are allowed to be used to teach over there.  Exciting times! 

Good luck with TRBWA. Secret Harbour would be more of a trek to be commuting regional, you'd be looking south Mandurah ideally so if you wanted to move there the 189 might be a better option.

On 19/01/2023 at 07:56, Rob Frain said:

My visa wouldn’t go through as it wasn’t Liverpool John Moores who gave me the placements in school in my Scitt year it was the training provider and they would t budge at all after about 4 months of going back to AITSL. 
 

We’re now wondering do we go for the 189 visa or do we go for the sponsored one from WA? What are the pros and cons of both?! 

189 was great for me but at a different time.

The WA state sponsored scheme requires you to work regional. Regional starts from just over 1 hour from Perth if you know your areas. You can apply for permanent residency after 2 years I think. There's work here, so there's plenty of positives to the current offer. I'm in Mandurah and the schools are questioning whether we can utilise this scheme. That said you could definitely live in Mandurah and commute regional. I presume this is the case if you went north and east of Perth as well.

I do remember Singapore who I have flown with previously being on the same flight path. I think I was quite surprised at the time. Why? In hindsight I have no idea! 

Guess what. I came over as a High School teacher after going through the SCITT pathway. To suggest AITSL simply rejects them is inaccurate, unless AITSL changed their policy after I was successful. When I completed my application there were others in the same position as me and they all managed to get their visas as well. @Rob Frain I'd suggest your qualification would be accepted by the registration bodies in different states.

WA are currently offering sponsorship - exciting times.

3 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Neither of those sound like sensible reasons to avoid an airline.    The Russians who shot down the plane weren't waiting specially for a Malaysian plane to fly over, were they?  They could just as easily have shot down a Qantas flight or any other plane flying that route.   

We still don't know if it was a suicide pilot.  As JetBlast says, that has happened on other airlines too.  The difference is that there was no mystery about those so they weren't featured in the press as much.  

In a way, both are one of those "lightning doesn't strike twice" scenarios, IMO.

Well that's where my head is that. It seems unreasonable to condemn an airline on that basis, however there's still that lingering worry! I have read great reviews recently concerning service and quality of the flights, adding to the people I have spoken to who have flown recently with them.

As we are looking for a few days stopover I'll have a look at KL. We are considering Dubai and Singapore as well...

19 hours ago, Nemesis said:

Had a bad experience on Malaysian, back in maybe 2002? I was flying with a friend who is a pilot and he diagnosed the problem quickly as a lack of oxygen in the airflow.Apparently the airline had a history at that time of cutting the percentage of oxygen in the cabin airflow as a) it put passengers to sleep so less service needs and b) cost less in fuel. Apparently the UK CAA were looking into it at the time, as it was illegal and dangerous.

Not flown with them since and I gather that issue was resolved, but it made me very wary in future. 

 

Crikey! Since I posted this, I have spoken to two different people who have flown with Malaysia Airlines since the reopening of flights. They were both very positive and suggested the planes were great, no complaints.

A plane shot down by militia and a suicide pilot is/was my biggest concern. I'm unaware of any ongoing maintenance issues. Am I right in saying the only reason they haven't got a 7 star safety rating is the planes mentioned previously?

On 13/01/2023 at 23:56, DrDougster said:

I think they've gone downhill over the last 5-10 years in contrast to the review above. 

Currently they seem to almost always run late, they move flights very last minute and our luggage from KL arrived three days after us a few weeks ago with no compensation. Planes were crappy both ways. I don't really eat airline food unless it's in a better class but that looked crappy too.

Having said that, aren't all airlines seemingly a bit crappy at the moment? Cutting corners, overbooked, bumping people. I think more than ever that your experience is dictated by the crew you happen to get. Our flight across Bris to Perth with Qantas was great. I had to move it with 24hrs notice - no issue and our hostesses gave us a big paper bag full of the remaining Lindor and a couple of cheeky bottles of wine to have in our AirBnB when they found out we were relocating here. 

Well that's a result!