WeegieDave

I've been told Ryan Gosling :laugh::cool:

Joe Hockey... What a cigar smoking tosser! Totally pompus and out of touch with the working class people.

Aussie politics really is a comedy act... I just laugh now when watch them on TV spewing nonsense!

Time will tell. I wouldn't say it is highly unlikely though.

How long would that take to build then I wonder...

 

they don't seem to be the quickest at getting proposed train lines in...

Read the article Fiona... 4 years :wink:

Good news if it goes ahead... And it's another potential big infrastructure project for the city...

The West Australian Government is set to announce plans to sink the entire Perth airport rail link underground, with tunnelling to start in the marginal seat of Forrestfield.

The rail link will branch off the existing Perth to Midland line near Bayswater train station, through to the future consolidated Perth airport terminal, which will include domestic and international terminals.

Originally only four kilometres was going to be underground but it is understood the tunnel will now continue from the airport precinct under the Swan River and link up with the railway line in Bayswater.

The original plan included a tunnel only from about where the domestic terminal is now, under the runway, under the proximity of the control tower at the international airport, and then over through to Forrestfield.

The ABC understands the final route was signed off by Cabinet this week and the Government is planning to release details at the Liberal Party's state conference on Saturday.

The airport rail link was a key Liberal election commitment, unveiled in February in the lead up to the state poll.

In December, then transport minister Troy Buswell revealed the Government was considering sinking the entire airport rail link underground, but said the Government would not do it if it was more expensive.

At the time he was accused of raising the issue in a bid to distract attention from the Government's decision to shelve another major Liberal election promise - the MAX light rail project.

Then in June, new Transport Minister Dean Nalder revealed the Government was investigating four different routes for the airport rail link, even though freedom of information documents had previously shown two options were on the table.

Expense a consideration for underground link

The ABC understands the Government's modelling on different routes has revealed there is little cost difference between sinking the entire rail link and sinking only part of it, and building the rest above ground.

The Government also favours the sinking option because it will result in far less impact on surrounding communities and traffic.

When first announcing the project, Mr Buswell said the $1.9 billion rail line would have three stations, 3,000 parking bays and would be built by 2018.

The project includes construction of new suburban stations at Forrestfield, the Airport Consolidated Terminal and Airport West - the domestic airport precinct.

The airport train line is now expected to start construction in 2016 and take its first passengers in 2020.

When quizzed at the weekend about the airport rail link, Mr Nalder would only say an announcement was "very close".

"The Premier has previously indicated that we will be underground at the airport but beyond that, I'm not going to make any further comment," he said.

"We're following proper processes, there's a couple of processes that still need to be signed off throughout this before any public announcement can be made."

Transport expert welcomes proposal

Transport and sustainability expert Peter Newman said the proposed rail link Perth Airport was an important step forward for the city.

Mr Newman, from Curtin University, said extending the link to Forrestfield makes good planning sense.

"It will link into all the buses coming down from the hills," he said.

"So it's actually not just an airport rail line."

He said the proposal is a sign of future rail trends for Perth.

"Most train systems in the world are now being done underground," he said.

"I think that it's a breakthrough for us. If we can do it on the airport rail we can do it on other sections of rail that do need to be built still."

It would be ok in the short term but in my opinion not something that would be wise to do for an extended period of time. Also, depends on his motives for big move to work FIFO alone with his family back home in the UK. I'd be looking for serious $$$ if it was me and as the exchange rate from AUD to GBP is rather poor is it really going to be financially worth it? He will still need a place to stay in Perth during his 6 days off which will cost a bit and then the general expense of living. I'd be weighing up as to whether it is worth it if the reasons are financial.

Quite simple.. Don't buy a brand new mc mansion, new car , jet ski and all the other bollocks fifo people buy. You get used to 3.5 a week and can't give it up. It realty is that simple

Totally narrow minded view. I could give you several situations of people who need to do it but I can't be arsed TBH... Whatever you say mate.. Whatever you say!

All year.. LNG sites

So you know what your talking about? So you can speak for the whole fly in fly out community without knowing each and every individuals life and financial situation when you state that nobody has to do it? That's a total nonsense statement! But whatever!

I do fifo myself. I know what I'm talking about

Do you? Since when?

On the flip side there are people who enjoy it; my OH does it (admittedly, not the huge shift the bloke in the first post did). He likes getting away for a while, I like having my own spce and the money is good.

 

There are way, way better shifts on offer than the 4/1 in the first post, over here it's uncommon to do anything more strenuous than 7/7 (days), though 10/4 crops up during construction and exploration tends to do 19/9 (again, days), simply because you have to finish the borehole during your roster.

 

It's perfectly feasable to do much, much better shifts if you're prepared to have a bit of a look around and move if you have to.

Unfortunately what you claim regarding better shifts being on offer is not the case for the majority. Perhaps if you are a professional working salaried for the likes of Rio Tinto or BHP that may be the case but for your average contractor that make up a large percentage of the FIFO workforce that is definitely not the case. 3/1 and 4/1 swings are very common place and the option for an easier roster just isn't there. Especially in the current climate. It's an employers market at the moment. My company has many contracts throughout the North west and staff do a 3/1 and the plant operators and general site workforce do 4/1 in some of the projects. 10/4 during construction may have been more common throughout the boom but certainly not now for your average FIFO worker.

You don't have to do fifo. Simple

There is loads that do. I have met them as I work with them. Your statement has no substance or consideration for certain peoples life situation.

30]If you work in the FIFO industry and get "trapped" as you put it then more fool you. I've had a couple of jobs where I've got fed up with them and just changed. One was pipeline testing when I was in my mid 20's. Went into it for the money' date=' had to live away from home most of the time, in caravans on sites though, not decent digs with a gym and food provided, put lots of weight on as we were in the pub every night and eating crap, not exercising. After about a year I'd had enough and got another job, started playing football at weekends again and got my life back.

 

That job showed me there is a lot more to enjoying life than having a lot of money.[/quote']

Easier said than done for many many people doing FIFO Paul. You can't just go out and get another job that earns enough to support your family. Also many people professions limit them to having to work up North. The way you seem to see things and reality are very different.

You do it for the money

That's not what you were insinuating with your snide comment and also, I would be in Perth in a heartbeat if there was an opportunity for me available. I am doing it right now as I don't have any other options.

Hence why you work fifo yourself

You don't know me or why I do FIFO so run along Chief misery guts!

A guy over the road from us does it, he's got the big 4x4 all glitzed up over sized wheels and all that, still lives with his parents i think hes about 28 years old. he's back home usually for about 8 days then he's gone again, i know his mother hates him doing the job but they all need the money so i think hes stuck in that financial rut of paying the mortgage or paying a lot towards it as mom and dad don't work.

I feel sorry for the guy, but we all have differing levels of income and debts, behind closed doors and all that.

A common theme in Perth.. Keeping up with the Jones's. I'd sooner drive a clapped out car and be home than having to work FIFO to drive a souped up Prado!

Was that the whole of Bali you're comparing to Benidorm Weegie, or just the place you stayed? It's like going to Benidorm and then assuming the rest of Spain is like that, which it isn't. I've been to Benidorm as a teenager with mates and loved it, one of the best holidays I've ever had. Been to Majorca and Ibiza too. All lively hell holes when you get older but great for teens early 20's who go for guaranteed sun, cheap booze, nightclubs that don't close, acts you can't see when your at home (be that Aus or UK) things to do you can't do at home, sex like you only seem to get on holiday when everyone else is in the same mood looking for the same thing.

 

When I got a bit older and had a partner we went to different places that had a totally different vibe. Still went to Spain a few times and even small Islands like Ibiza and Majorca have some fantastic quiet places to go that don't get much publicity.

 

We've never been to Bali ourselves but have friends who shoot off there every chance they get. My eldest (24 now) went 3 times in one year. I'm sure he went to the most lively place, did things we wouldn't do as a couple, went to clubs, pubs, hired motorbikes. I'm sure he did some risky things that he didn't tell us about but he had a fantastic time.

 

I'm sure Bali has something for everyone, it's just a matter of doing a bit of research and finding a place that suits what you are looking for.

As mentioned earlier in the thread my opinions were based on 2 separate holidays where in went to Kuta, Seminyak and Nusa Dua. Wasn't impressed with any of them. I'd rather just spend the money and go somewhere that'd I'd enjoy. It's one of the unfortunate things of living in Perth is the isolation and the cost of travel further afield than Bali / Asia. I love living in Perth but many West Australians are very insular and just go to Bali for a holiday every year due to the high costs of going elsewhere and IMO the place is highly overrated. Look, each to their own and that. I just won't be going back there.

FIFO ain't good for the mind body or soul. I sometimes feel like my life is bypassing me as I look on Facebook and see what all my mates are doing... Out enjoying life. Sure, It has benefitted me financially but it's no way to live a life. I'm getting out of it next year by whatever means I can!

Im sorry that you didnt really experience the real side of Bali. Perhaps if you went to Munduk falls, or even Lovina and spent a week there you may have a slightly different perception..

Perhaps. I did mention that my opinions were based on holidays to Kuta and Seminyak (I also visited Nusa Dua during my second trip).

I have no doubt that there are lovely places out with the grimy tourist spots. It's just not for me.

Just my opinions based on my experiences there. Obviously given your marital status you get to experience a different side of Bali.

I found Bali to be a bit like Aussies version of Benidorm and I think it comes with living in the most isolated city in the world. It's basically a cheap getaway from Perth as the options of a cheap holiday from Perth are extremely limited. Hence the reason the place is busy with mostly Aussies wearing Bintang vests. It seems to be a big attraction to the bogan community of Australia. Another reason why I didn't like it.

As I have a good female friend who is actually english but lives in Oz who spent some time working in an international SOS type clinic over there working as a nurse helping foreigners who had accidents or got I'll and she told me that it is so much more common than actually reported. It only got a bit of media hype last year after there were a couple of young Aussies who died from it. 9 times out of 10 people don't die and just get very unwell. You seem very challenging towards me as I have given a negative opinion of Bali. Fair play if you love it. Personally I think it's a sh!thole but I'm sure the OP has a good mixture of opinions to make her decision and knows what to look out for should she decide to go.

You can add me to the probably would never go back list!

 

We stayed in a villa in Seminyak. Other than a few standout restaurants and the obvious beach bars the place has very little appeal. The beach was absolutely filthy which is the norm throughout and at the tail end of the wet season from what I read. I had heard so much about Seminyak...the 'Toorak of Bali'...honestly, what a crock! Hideous beach, streets lined with dodgy dudes selling what they purport to be Viagra and other medicinal aids and for a tourist mecca it is still filthy with crumbling streets and pavements. Yes it's in the third world, but Thailand is vastly superior in this respect (and every other actually).

 

Even arrival at DPS is a trauma. The so called 'porters' should not be allowed in the sterile part of the arrivals hall but they are there, grabbing bags without permission and leading off the gullible to an ATM for a whole lot more than a dollar a bag! My OH was led off by two of these guys having no idea who they were or what they wanted.

 

And then there's Ubud...often romantically (and imaginatively) referred to as 'the real Bali'. Another crock! It's just an inland version of Kuta.

 

Hire a driver for the day, you'll get taken where he wants to go i.e. where he earns a commission, rather than where you want to...it's all about tourist traps here.

 

Contrary to what I expected we actually found Legian (and even Kuta!) more appealing than Seminyak. Sure there are legions of people whose entire wardrobe seems to consist of Aussie flag clothing but at least the beaches seemed to be somewhat looked after.

 

Nusa Dua would probably be fine for a holiday where you stay within or around your resort.

yes, you pretty much share the exact same experiences / opinions as me...

each to their own though. The Aussies seem to love the place for whatever reason

RE spirits - hardly rife. A couple of incidents with horrendous outcomes yes. But not rife. but just stay away from Arak and you'll be ok.

As for the guys carrying your bags - they are porters and charge less than $1 per bag.

 

I think if can shock people at first, the 'developing country' side of it. But once you get over that it's fine. If you can get over it.

No, a few incidents with tragic circumstances involving young Australians but it is known to happen frequently with people ending up in hospital on a drip. Most cases going unreported though. As for the guys carrying the bags, they are corrupt and don't officially work for the airport and tried to intimidate me into handing over the equivalent for $30 AUD.

Definitely each up their own. I just never felt comfortable there.

I can see why it appeals to many West Australians though given it's locality and low cost. Maybe I just had bad experiences as I found the service very poor and I didn't want to drink spirits when I was out as I was weary about methanol poisoning which is rife over there.

Things to look out for is people trying to carry your bags for you at the airport upon arrival. Decline and keep a hold of your case!

when getting a taxi always ask the driver to put his meter on. If he doesn't have his meter on he will rip you off.

I must be the exception.. I've been twice, Kuta which was like a third world version of Magaluf then Seminyak which was rather boring unless you like lying in a resort type hotel / villa for the full holiday. Didn't like either and would never go back to Bali. Your almost guarenteed a dose of the sh!ts there too. Sorry to sound like Mr negative but IMO it's the most over rated place I've ever been.