bongomark Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi, I'm looking for a new career, and one that will enable me to get permanent residency in Oz. I currently work in Sales (not in a field that will get me into oz) but am keen for a change. Has anyone else done this? If I do this, will I need to retrain, and gain experience here as well before I move to oz?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emberton Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hello all I wonder if anyone could help with regards to my question i was employed a few years ago by an estate agent in the renting department would i have to have a certificate or pass an exam to become employed again in the renting department of any estate agents as i would also like to get back into this kind of employment:notworthy: Cheers Embo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest annie0 Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi Embo, I maybe wrong but i am sure you would have to sit some sort or course over here in order for you to gain you licence in the estate agents business, My son in law looked in to doing this a few years back and i am sure they said it would cost him at least $900, and his police cert from ozz too. That was two years ago he was thinking of doing it so i dont know if it has changed since then. annie x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hello allI wonder if anyone could help with regards to my question i was employed a few years ago by an estate agent in the renting department would i have to have a certificate or pass an exam to become employed again in the renting department of any estate agents as i would also like to get back into this kind of employment:notworthy: Cheers Embo x Hi Embo If you were to work in property management here in WA you would have to attend a property management course and obtain your license to work in that field. Did you specialise in residential or commercial properties? Myself I am only licensed to operate here in WA, each state has different rules, regulations, and bye-laws........... but I'm pretty certain the same is applicable in each state re registration and licensing of property management operators? Which state do you plan on settling in? The Residential Tenancies Act takes on a different form in each state .............. same principals to a degree albeit somewhat different re procedures followed and time frames adhered to! I did my property management course a couple of years ago with REIWA here in the west as it was a compulsory component in my Triennial Certificate. Good property managers are indeed very hard to come by............. and there must be a bigger turnover in that discipline than any other profession? I do know that an ample supply of Panadol is a pre-requisite prior to venturing into the exciting and challenging world of property management? :wacko: PM me should you need any help in this field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuchanan Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Emberton: I might be wrong, but it looks like you have just hyjacked someone elses post!! I think you might get more responses to your question if you start a new thread of your own (don't take offence.... i'm just trying to help). Bongomark: What sales are you in at the moment? Could you use your current industry to get a few steps up the ladder in your new career? If not, IT seems to be coming back into demand, having been out of demand for a few years. IT is quite a broad field (hardware, networking, programming, project management, web site development, database management, testing, sales, etc). You may find that you could put your sales experience to use in the IT industry. A word of warning though.... the list of jobs in demand for IT appears to be very targetted to specialised skills in some cases so make sure you get the exact skills required, and make sure it will still be in demand in a few years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emberton Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Emberton: I might be wrong, but it looks like you have just hyjacked someone elses post!! I think you might get more responses to your question if you start a new thread of your own (don't take offence.... i'm just trying to help). Bongomark: What sales are you in at the moment? Could you use your current industry to get a few steps up the ladder in your new career? If not, IT seems to be coming back into demand, having been out of demand for a few years. IT is quite a broad field (hardware, networking, programming, project management, web site development, database management, testing, sales, etc). You may find that you could put your sales experience to use in the IT industry. A word of warning though.... the list of jobs in demand for IT appears to be very targetted to specialised skills in some cases so make sure you get the exact skills required, and make sure it will still be in demand in a few years time. opps sorry still new at this will try to do it properly many thnaks for all the info Embo x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a&s Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi Bongomark, good luck with which new skill you wish to take up, but you may have to think of the experenice you are required to have which i think is three yrs! So as buckbuchanan say you also have to check it will still be on the demand list.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongomark Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi Bongomark,good luck with which new skill you wish to take up, but you may have to think of the experenice you are required to have which i think is three yrs! So as buckbuchanan say you also have to check it will still be on the demand list.. Yea, I guess thats my main concern. I'm more than happy to retrain, but don't really want to stay here to gain 2-3yrs experience before I can go to oz. I'm not sure what the alternatives are/if there are any??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigLes Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Hi Bongomark I had that dilema a couple of years ago - because of my age I couldn't get enough points so I looked at the possibility of changing careers - not easy starting again and going back to school to get all new qualification and I must admit I felt too old and would miss the money I earn too much to do it personally speaking - luckily for me my job turned up on the jobs in demand list at the end of July and I've just sent off my visa application last week - so fingers crossed. So the only advice I can offer is the thoughts I had - first thing you need to work out is how many points you have on the points test without an occupation - so then you can look at the trades / professions that then would get your points up highest - you get extra points for having work in the trade / occupation for certain periods of time in the last few years before applying - but if you're young enough you might be able to squeeze through with a qualification in something on the MODL jobs in demand list!! Might be harder getting employment over there if you haven't much experience and the only problem with visa applications is you wouldn't be able to apply for a visa until your skill had been assessed (so obviously you'd have to pass some qualification which takes time) - so getting started on a new qualification in a different field asap will certainly move you in the right direction - maybe some sort of apprenticeship would be most ideal as you get experience as you do the qualification - and I'm sure it might be a slight step back, be hard work for less money - but if it gives you the opportunity to move to Oz it might all be worth it. :GEEK: Have a long think about what you'd like to do too - having a target of getting to Oz is one thing but getting there doing something new you've chosen to find out you don't like it only makes life harder. :wacko: Hope my thoughts give you plenty to consider - and good luck in whatever you decide to do. :idea: Big Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongomark Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thanks for your advice BigLes. To be honest they're a lot of thoughts that I've already had, it's really tricky deciding what to do. I'm 28 at the moment by the way. I have some debts that I am currently trying to clear. I have considered bankruptcy, which would enable me to then save some money quite quickly to pay for any course that I'd decide to take. I'm concerned about what affect this might have on a visa application. I don't realllllly know what career I want to pursue, but I do know I want to be in Australia. So, do I retrain in a career to get me into australia but that may not be something I want to do for the rest of my career? Is another option to go down the bankruptcy avenue, then save some money and look to study in Australia, would that be an option? Another option is to go on a working holiday visa, (when I've cleared my debts), and try and get sponsorship but I seem to get negative vibes on the likelyhood of this being possible. It would also be in a career that I don't want to stay in long term (I currently work for a printing company as a Business Development Manager selling mainly to the trade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigLes Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 I can't help you with the bankruptcy thing - but I think in your application forms you have to declare you don't have any government debts / liabilities or something over here?? - not sure exactly what - and I don't know whether that would affect your application - but personally I would avoid any potential banana skins and try do everything above board. Biggest thing to bear in mind is you can't get a working holiday visa once you are over 30 (I think you have got to apply before your 31st birthday??) so to get a taste of Oz have a look at doing that sooner rather than later and then once your over 30 on a points tested visa application for a more permanent visa you lose 5 points so it could become an obstacle if your chosen new occupation doesn't score as high as others?? Applying to study in oz and gain a qualification over there might be an option - I think you are allowed to do part time temporary work to help support yourself whilst studying on a student visa - but obviously you might need to save for course fees etc for the whole course before you go? I can imagine this is a hard route to earn to live and then study too but then after studying on a student visa - with an oz qualification - that helps you then apply for a permanent residency visa etc further down the line. Don't know the details and someone else might be able to advise you correctly on this one on the feasibility of it - but surely worth looking into - I considered it at one point but felt too old to become a student (again!!)?? Biggest obstacle might be affording to do it that way - and of course actually getting accepted to a uni or what ever over there - which means you might need good school grades to get accepted - which I don't know where that helps or hinders for you?? There are many options - and I'm sure if you're determined enough you'll manage to get out there one way or the other. At your age - as impatient as I was with no inital easier way to apply for a more permanent visa I'd be paying off all my debts asap - saving up - getting a working holiday visa and taking 12months out seeing Oz working from place to place!!! You never know you might meet the Australian love of your life and decide to marry and get to stay that way!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calNgary Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Sorry to jump in guys but i think going bankrupt would the worse thing to do .Im sure(but not possitive)that if you have been bankrupt you have to wait a few years before applying for a visa.I wouldnt worry to much about the debt ,it shouldnt affect things too much.Have you looked into a student/apprentice visa and re-train here,i have no idea of the ins and outs but im sure an agent would.Try Visa Bureau to point you in the right direction,they normally give a free initial consultation and were really good with us.You sound pretty dtermined so im sure you'll find a way,keep us all posted on what you do, Cal x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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