surflen22 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 i c, so u are not on 857 are u That's what I've applied for. I'm waiting for 857 to be granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jacob88 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 That's what I've applied for. I'm waiting for 857 to be granted. So u changed ur subclass from 457 to 857..... I have never heard that immi staff visit our workplace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ginni Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hi everyone, I am not British but I have got loads of very useful info from this forum and I would just like to ask for some suggestions and share my situation. I lodged my paper (my employer did it for me and do not know why they did not go for the on-line one) application for a RSMS on the 28th May 2012 in Paramatta and got the acknowledgement letter on the 2nd June 2012. The acknowledgment letter stated to take a look at the attached documents (receipt, fact sheet, health examination list) but the health exam list was not attached to the email. I wrote them back twice to inform them the health list was not attached but always got the typical automatic reply (they are currently allocating application received on the 15 December 2012). I called the European phone number but they could not help me. I did a paper application and do not have a TRN but I would like to have the HRI and HAP ID to do my health examination in the meantime. According to what I read on this forum I should get my visa approved somewhere in November but does anyone have a suggestions for me about getting the codes for the health exam? Should I wait for the CO to contact me or should I try and contact directly someone else in Paramattato get these codes? Did anyone already make a contact straightforward with Paramatta and eventually to which phone number? Thanks in advance and good luck to everyone. Hi Massimo i got same mail like u but in my mail they gave to me health id no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massimo Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hi Ginni, did you already do the health exam? I am not sure if I should wait or give them a call. Does anyone know which number to call for paramatta RSMS application. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) So u changed ur subclass from 457 to 857..... I have never heard that immi staff visit our workplace hi jacob now days most of RSMS applications getting workplace visits from immigration they have been to my workplace and also conducted telephonic interview of my employer .. and guys they are very strict now days one of my friend got refused his visa today just because when immi went to his workplace the shop wasn't open ..i dont know why it wasnt open but the reason given by immi to refuse is "business not operating according to business hours provided" Edited July 23, 2012 by pkb84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jacob88 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 hi jacob now days most of RSMS applications getting workplace visits from immigration they have been to my workplace and also conducted telephonic interview of my employer .. and guys they are very strict now days one of my friend got refused his visa today just because when immi went to his workplace the shop wasn't open ..i dont know why it wasnt open but the reason given by immi to refuse is "business not operating according to business hours provided" What if the employee is working for employee agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) What if the employee is working for employee agency? as far as i know an agency is not allowed to sponsor you because an agency cant be employer sorry if i am not getting your question Edited July 23, 2012 by pkb84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolsurdian1 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 hi jacob now days most of RSMS applications getting workplace visits from immigration they have been to my workplace and also conducted telephonic interview of my employer .. and guys they are very strict now days one of my friend got refused his visa today just because when immi went to his workplace the shop wasn't open ..i dont know why it wasnt open but the reason given by immi to refuse is "business not operating according to business hours provided" Hi PKB84, i just wanted to ask what kind of questions do they ask when they visit the work place ?? Is it like very strict grilling of the employer or just general visit ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBO85 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hey pkb Really feeling bad abt ur friend, after so much hard work if v get this thing it felt just to away. Immi should understand that in regional areas there is always a change in operating hours due to the season, regional can't get operated same operating hours over a year like cities do. Ex: wn I lodged ma visa, it ws a busy season nd v used to operate lun/night both but nw due to cold season here being a tourist place nd in-between mountain it's very cold n winter and nt many tourists so v can't operate same timing as v were before. But who will make immi understand, I think ur friend can put an appeal on the immi decision. hi jacob now days most of RSMS applications getting workplace visits from immigration they have been to my workplace and also conducted telephonic interview of my employer .. and guys they are very strict now days one of my friend got refused his visa today just because when immi went to his workplace the shop wasn't open ..i dont know why it wasnt open but the reason given by immi to refuse is "business not operating according to business hours provided" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hey pkbReally feeling bad abt ur friend, after so much hard work if v get this thing it felt just to away. Immi should understand that in regional areas there is always a change in operating hours due to the season, regional can't get operated same operating hours over a year like cities do. Ex: wn I lodged ma visa, it ws a busy season nd v used to operate lun/night both but nw due to cold season here being a tourist place nd in-between mountain it's very cold n winter and nt many tourists so v can't operate same timing as v were before. But who will make immi understand, I think ur friend can put an appeal on the immi decision. This is not allowed for this type of visa. The employer are agreeing that they will employ you full time, not just full time for part of the year. So of course if they are not open full time hours then they are not employing you full time. My job is seasonal too, the number of untrained staff drops, but a core of trained staff are always there, even when it is quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwcheu Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 hi there i m new to this forum and thread i m holding bva and just applied for 119 in june , may i ask if my employer is required to pay according to the contract BEFORE the visa is granted ? cos currently he is paying me less than the annual income stated in contract , (ps less hours atm ) i m not sure if once the DIAC visit my work place and judged on the current income , I m so worried now and hopefully someone would give me advice , thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hi PKB84, i just wanted to ask what kind of questions do they ask when they visit the work place ?? Is it like very strict grilling of the employer or just general visit ?? hi there they didnt meet my employer at workplace but over the phone yes i would say its strict grilling they on asking questions and cross questions for 40mins they asked operating hours,how many business my employer has, how many people working ,whats my qualifications , how long i have to work for my employer,how my employer found me,where interview was conducted, and so on including some rude question ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBO85 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hi I do understan wt u r tying to say, I m full time 2 but v used to open lunch and dinner both n season. But nw wn it's offseason so few staff no drops and I just do ordering and other part of job duties in the afternoon. I was saying if pkb's friend can put appeal if he want bcz the contract starts from the day of visa grant nt before. This is not allowed for this type of visa. The employer are agreeing that they will employ you full time, not just full time for part of the year. So of course if they are not open full time hours then they are not employing you full time. My job is seasonal too, the number of untrained staff drops, but a core of trained staff are always there, even when it is quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 hi there they didnt meet my employer at workplace but over the phone yes i would say its strict grilling they on asking questions and cross questions for 40mins they asked operating hours,how many business my employer has, how many people working ,whats my qualifications , how long i have to work for my employer,how my employer found me,where interview was conducted, and so on including some rude question ....... What rude questions? Seems odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 HiI do understan wt u r tying to say, I m full time 2 but v used to open lunch and dinner both n season. But nw wn it's offseason so few staff no drops and I just do ordering and other part of job duties in the afternoon. I was saying if pkb's friend can put appeal if he want bcz the contract starts from the day of visa grant nt before. I doubt it. They have to say that their company is a certain size and operating full time. They obviously are not operating full time, so I doubt they could appeal without something like a staff members funeral as an actual reason for shutting up a whole business for a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hey pkbReally feeling bad abt ur friend, after so much hard work if v get this thing it felt just to away. Immi should understand that in regional areas there is always a change in operating hours due to the season, regional can't get operated same operating hours over a year like cities do. Ex: wn I lodged ma visa, it ws a busy season nd v used to operate lun/night both but nw due to cold season here being a tourist place nd in-between mountain it's very cold n winter and nt many tourists so v can't operate same timing as v were before. But who will make immi understand, I think ur friend can put an appeal on the immi decision. Yes i agree with you ,,,he is putting an review appeal with MRT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 This is not allowed for this type of visa. The employer are agreeing that they will employ you full time, not just full time for part of the year. So of course if they are not open full time hours then they are not employing you full time. My job is seasonal too, the number of untrained staff drops, but a core of trained staff are always there, even when it is quiet. there is nothing to do with part time or full time employment ,,they refused saying "business wasn't open when it should be open " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 What rude questions? Seems odd. whether my employer was offered or taken any money to sponsor ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolsurdian1 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 But this all is soo unfair if you look at the whole process its just in may my best friend got her 857 approved in just 5 days after the DRC file was lodged at Perth COE the trade being a Graphic Designer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 there is nothing to do with part time or full time employment ,,they refused saying "business wasn't open when it should be open " If there is not enough work for the company to be open in normal business hours then there is not full time work. I am just saying it how immigration will be seeing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 whether my employer was offered or taken any money to sponsor ... Wow, that is a bit off, but apparently it has been happening a lot. My agent was telling me he expects a lot of rsms visas to be refused because of this, and that the jobs are not genuine or have been exaggerated. It seems he was right as they are already being far more thorough. I knew people on my course who would have thought nothing of paying someone to say they were giving them a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 But this all is soo unfair if you look at the whole process its just in may my best friend got her 857 approved in just 5 days after the DRC file was lodged at Perth COE the trade being a Graphic Designer big influx in june making a difference in processing guideline i guess'.... as they have limited quota so they have to find reasons to refuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBO85 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hey pkb Any idea, wt will happen from 1 august. Means due to June applications do old applicant has to w8 more. Very stressing... big influx in june making a difference in processing guideline i guess'.... as they have limited quota so they have to find reasons to refuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Wow, that is a bit off, but apparently it has been happening a lot. My agent was telling me he expects a lot of rsms visas to be refused because of this, and that the jobs are not genuine or have been exaggerated. It seems he was right as they are already being far more thorough. I knew people on my course who would have thought nothing of paying someone to say they were giving them a job. i dont know if its happening ...but i know my employer went to job find center and some of other agencies for staff before sponsoring me ..my employer got letters from two agencies that they dont have anyone with the skill required by my employer at this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkb84 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hey pkbAny idea, wt will happen from 1 august. Means due to June applications do old applicant has to w8 more. Very stressing... it could be delays for june applicants i would say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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