Hari_999 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, MilaMocha said: On what date exactly did they email him this? 1 minute ago, MilaMocha said: On what date exactly did they email him this? Last week that is 7th Oct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hari_999 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jayjay16 said: I have applied 10/2017, they opened my case last month. What is the outcome of your case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay16 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hari_999 said: 2 minutes ago, Hari_999 said: What is the outcome of your case? Not yet decided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ring3018 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Jayjay16 said: May I ask what’s your reason and the documents they asked for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajat Babbar Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The new alternative for 187 will take 6 months fast processing and will cost nearly the same as AAT + MA fees. Its soo hard to live a long wait for 187 first then AAT wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay16 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Finance abilities and they requested recently financial documents from my boss and tax returns, payg, bank statement showing my salary from me. 3 hours ago, ring3018 said: May I ask what’s your reason and the documents they asked for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatamaru Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Finished my AAT hearing on 10/10, that was the worst experience I’ve ever had in my life. The member didn’t even question anything about the refusal reason listed by the immigration, instead, he was questioning the business itself the whole time and based on his unprofessional accounting knowledge, he was arguing about the superannuation calculation method on our financial report made by our professional accountant. We realised he was wrong after the hearing but during the hearing he wouldn’t let us to prove there is no problem on the financial report by contact the accountant. Now this reason ended up being the reason AAT refused my visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xushuang923 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, tatamaru said: Finished my AAT hearing on 10/10, that was the worst experience I’ve ever had in my life. The member didn’t even question anything about the refusal reason listed by the immigration, instead, he was questioning the business itself the whole time and based on his unprofessional accounting knowledge, he was arguing about the superannuation calculation method on our financial report made by our professional accountant. We realised he was wrong after the hearing but during the hearing he wouldn’t let us to prove there is no problem on the financial report by contact the accountant. Now this reason ended up being the reason AAT refused my visa. Hi tatamaru, It sounds so unfair and unprofessional to you.so what you gonna do? Can you challenge the outcome? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Ding Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, tatamaru said: Finished my AAT hearing on 10/10, that was the worst experience I’ve ever had in my life. The member didn’t even question anything about the refusal reason listed by the immigration, instead, he was questioning the business itself the whole time and based on his unprofessional accounting knowledge, he was arguing about the superannuation calculation method on our financial report made by our professional accountant. We realised he was wrong after the hearing but during the hearing he wouldn’t let us to prove there is no problem on the financial report by contact the accountant. Now this reason ended up being the reason AAT refused my visa. I am so sorry to hear that, heartbroken. Yes, my MA also said , the Member is very important. It will influence the results directly. I feel sorry for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatamaru Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, xushuang923 said: Hi tatamaru, It sounds so unfair and unprofessional to you.so what you gonna do? Can you challenge the outcome? The last thing I can do is to appeal to the higher court, but that also means more time and money will be consumed in this... The member was rolling his eyes all the time during the hearing I wish there was camera record all that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay16 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, tatamaru said: The last thing I can do is to appeal to the higher court, but that also means more time and money will be consumed in this... The member was rolling his eyes all the time during the hearing I wish there was camera record all that... So sorry to hear that. What r you planning to do now? I’m starting to feel nervous about my coming up hearing:((( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xushuang923 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, tatamaru said: The last thing I can do is to appeal to the higher court, but that also means more time and money will be consumed in this... The member was rolling his eyes all the time during the hearing I wish there was camera record all that... Can you summit another new nomination application instead of appeal to the higher court? It’ looks like newer applications process much quicker than before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xushuang923 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Jayjay16 said: So sorry to hear that. What r you planning to do now? I’m starting to feel nervous about my coming up hearing:((( Hi Jayjay16, Did they invite you to the hearing after summit the docs requested by AAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatamaru Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, xushuang923 said: Can you summit another new nomination application instead of appeal to the higher court? It’ looks like newer applications process much quicker than before. I can’t apply for another visa while I’m still on my bridging visa A and if I don’t apply for another appealing I will have to leave in 28 days. Also I might not be able to come back by applying a new visa from oversea because I have this refusal history. I have to try the higher court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tatamaru Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jayjay16 said: So sorry to hear that. What r you planning to do now? I’m starting to feel nervous about my coming up hearing:((( I’m planning to find a professional lawyer and appealing to the higher court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Ding Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, tatamaru said: I can’t apply for another visa while I’m still on my bridging visa A and if I don’t apply for another appealing I will have to leave in 28 days. Also I might not be able to come back by applying a new visa from oversea because I have this refusal history. I have to try the higher court. The higher court costs more money. But in your case , it might worths to t try it. Because it sounds like the member was not professional and rude to you. so basically, they just use “ The company cannot afford you” as new reason to reject your nomination? I understand that they will got confused about like “ Company are running in loss or Other financial problems” but why they confused with super ???? It is in your contact and your payslip. Why they got confused about super calculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay16 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, xushuang923 said: Hi Jayjay16, Did they invite you to the hearing after summit the docs requested by AAT? After we submitted docs for the first request, nearly 1 month later they sent an invite for the hearing(15/11) , then few days ago they requested more docs again. We going to submit tomorrow and see what will happen next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu Ding Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jayjay16 said: After we submitted docs for the first request, nearly 1 month later they sent an invite for the hearing(15/11) , then few days ago they requested more docs again. We going to submit tomorrow and see what will happen next. Please keep us updated. Everyone in this group we are not the lucky ones. I’ve seen some people got their PR in 1 month or 4 months. Even my friend who submitted at the same time with me and he got approved, I just got rejected. So we have to be strong and stay together and fight for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xushuang923 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 56 minutes ago, Jayjay16 said: After we submitted docs for the first request, nearly 1 month later they sent an invite for the hearing(15/11) , then few days ago they requested more docs again. We going to submit tomorrow and see what will happen next. please stay in touch with us. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay16 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Lu Ding said: Please keep us updated. Everyone in this group we are not the lucky ones. I’ve seen some people got their PR in 1 month or 4 months. Even my friend who submitted at the same time with me and he got approved, I just got rejected. So we have to be strong and stay together and fight for this. 39 minutes ago, xushuang923 said: please stay in touch with us. Good luck! Thanks guys, will update as soon as I get anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ring3018 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 11 hours ago, tatamaru said: Finished my AAT hearing on 10/10, that was the worst experience I’ve ever had in my life. The member didn’t even question anything about the refusal reason listed by the immigration, instead, he was questioning the business itself the whole time and based on his unprofessional accounting knowledge, he was arguing about the superannuation calculation method on our financial report made by our professional accountant. We realised he was wrong after the hearing but during the hearing he wouldn’t let us to prove there is no problem on the financial report by contact the accountant. Now this reason ended up being the reason AAT refused my visa. I'm so sorry for your outcome. What's your refusal reason? It's weird to based on the superannuation method and refuse the nomination based on that as well. And you have to go for the hearing face to face, not calling? 3 hours ago, Jayjay16 said: After we submitted docs for the first request, nearly 1 month later they sent an invite for the hearing(15/11) , then few days ago they requested more docs again. We going to submit tomorrow and see what will happen next. I think they may think that it's not enough documents to prove the favour on your side, but with the second one they may rethink about not going for a hearing at all. Good luck!!! So what they request is basically about financial? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippalippa Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Jayjay16 and Tatamaru, you might wanna check if you have they same tribunal member for your cases... I hope not for Jayjay16... just saying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilaMocha Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cippalippa said: Jayjay16 and Tatamaru, you might wanna check if you have they same tribunal member for your cases... I hope not for Jayjay16... just saying.... At what stage you can find out the name of the Member that will be dealing with your case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippalippa Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 At what stage you can find out the name of the Member that will be dealing with your case? I think you can see from the letter where they ask for further documents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Param0559 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 hours ago, tatamaru said: Finished my AAT hearing on 10/10, that was the worst experience I’ve ever had in my life. The member didn’t even question anything about the refusal reason listed by the immigration, instead, he was questioning the business itself the whole time and based on his unprofessional accounting knowledge, he was arguing about the superannuation calculation method on our financial report made by our professional accountant. We realised he was wrong after the hearing but during the hearing he wouldn’t let us to prove there is no problem on the financial report by contact the accountant. Now this reason ended up being the reason AAT refused my visa. Hi tatamaru, sorry to hear this from you and hope you choose good migration lawyer for higher court and good luck. Can you tell more about superannuation Questins they were asking to you . And what other questions were asked to you mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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