zpat978 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 My ACS assessment is positive but they have deducted 6 years from experience trying to understand why my details below BE Electronics: Completed 1999 MSc Computing( Software Development Pathway Out of 8 modules 2 are related to IT Infrastructure and Database, 6 module related to Software Development and Design): Completed 2001 March 2005 to Sept 2006: Software Engineer ( 1.5 years) Oct 2006 to till date: System Administrator (9 years 9 months) Applied ACS under System Administrator Occupation Received reply with 6 years deduction only 5 years were considered by Oct 2010 onwards. Anyone can help me why such a big deduction? Any thoughts why March 2005 to Sept 2006: Software Engineer ( 1.5 years) was not considered and why only experience from Oct 2010 was considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell123321 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Did you work part time during any of that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpat978 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Did you work part time during any of that time? no both companies i worked full time. In the reference letters its mentioned employed full time but number of hours is not mentioned in the reference letters. Number of hours i.e 40 hours per week is mentioned in the Appointment letter of both companies. Any thoughts 6 years deduction is a lot considering i had a IT Major MSc degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco56 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 One possibility is that although it is accepted that the MSc Computing has an ICT Major, ACS have made a judgement that the Software Engineering role was not relevant to the System Administrator occupation and therefore your relevant work experience for skills assessment purposes did not commence until October 2006 when you commenced the System Administrator job. In addition they must have made a judgment that your ICT Major was not related closely to your nominated occupation, and hence under their assessment guidelines you require four years of relevant work experience, in combination with your MSc to be considered skilled. ( see https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf). Therefore your four years of qualifying work experience was completed in Oct 2010, thus making Oct 2010 your 'skills met' date. It then follows only work experience obtained since Oct 2010 falls in to the category of professional experience which earns points under the General Points Test. If on the other hand had they made a judgement that your ICT Major was closely related to the nominated role then you only need to complete two years of qualifying work experience and you would have received a deemed 'skills met' date of Oct 2008. I suggest you follow up with them at assessment@acs.org.au and quote your reference number. They should be able to clarify the issue and may recommend a formal review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GetMeDownUnder Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Did you put your duties when you were a software engineer? No doubt they considered this occupation to not be closely related to the System Administrator code that you applied under. (it is a different job after all). They therefore removed 4 years of your actual System Administrator experience (which would suggest that they deemed your degree or equivalent to be IT Minor?) (all from memory). They probably gave you IT Minor because only 2 modules in your course related to Database Design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpat978 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 One possibility is that although it is accepted that the MSc Computing has an ICT Major, ACS have made a judgement that the Software Engineering role was not relevant to the System Administrator occupation and therefore your relevant work experience for skills assessment purposes did not commence until October 2006 when you commenced the System Administrator job. In addition they must have made a judgment that your ICT Major was not related closely to your nominated occupation, and hence under their assessment guidelines you require four years of relevant work experience, in combination with your MSc to be considered skilled. ( see https://www.acs.org.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/7319/Skills-Assessment-Guidelines-for-Applicants.pdf). Therefore your four years of qualifying work experience was completed in Oct 2010, thus making Oct 2010 your 'skills met' date. It then follows only work experience obtained since Oct 2010 falls in to the category of professional experience which earns points under the General Points Test. If on the other hand had they made a judgement that your ICT Major was closely related to the nominated role then you only need to complete two years of qualifying work experience and you would have received a deemed 'skills met' date of Oct 2008. I suggest you follow up with them at assessment@acs.org.au and quote your reference number. They should be able to clarify the issue and may recommend a formal review. Thank you for the reply. Would it be possible for me to do new ACS assessment now as Software Engineer with updated references and resume? Or it would get rejected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpat978 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Thank you for the reply. Would it be possible for me to do new ACS assessment now as Software Engineer with updated references and resume? Or it would get rejected? Plz help with the below job duties, I got evaluated as Sys Admin for the below duties, can these also match with Software Engineer? To me many duties match but need some advice if i can re-apply as Software Engineer or System Analyst with the below Planning, developing and maintaining database design, data structures, tables and stored procedures for supported database Developing, documenting and maintaining operational, configuration, and other procedures and policies for Application Device Services tools. Developing of testing scripts, procedures and processes for testing database systems and upgrades for debugging, tracking, reproduction, logging and resolving all recognized problems. Leading Application Device Services Level 3 escalated support team to support SQL Server Databases, web based applications, Standard Operating Environment delivery and Anti-Virus. Conducting Daily Status review for on time delivery with SLA adherence for SQL Server Databases, web based applications, Standard Operating Environment Delivery and Anti-Virus. Lead the team focusing on continuous improvement of products and offerings Write Scripts and Program to reduce manual maintenance work and promote automation. Guide Level 2 teams to fix complex Database issues, Software and SOE Deployment issues. Developing and Maintaining Software as per required quality standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I don't see why not, database designer is a specialisation of Software Engineer according to the ANZSCO code http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Product+Lookup/1220.0~2006~Chapter~UNIT+GROUP+2613+Software+and+Applications+Programmers The trick is to write a job description that matches the ACS description of the code as closely as possible without looking like it is copied from there and to ensure your referee gives concrete example of your work that matches each of the bullet points. There are agents that can specifically help with this if you want professional advice and I would recommend it for ACS skills assessments, we used Overseas Emigration and I am happy to recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpat978 Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 I don't see why not, database designer is a specialisation of Software Engineer according to the ANZSCO code http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Product+Lookup/1220.0~2006~Chapter~UNIT+GROUP+2613+Software+and+Applications+Programmers The trick is to write a job description that matches the ACS description of the code as closely as possible without looking like it is copied from there and to ensure your referee gives concrete example of your work that matches each of the bullet points. There are agents that can specifically help with this if you want professional advice and I would recommend it for ACS skills assessments, we used Overseas Emigration and I am happy to recommend. Thank you for the reply. Do you know how much Overseas Emigration would charge for ACS assessment and for whole process? What is their company URL so that i can check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Thank you for the reply. Do you know how much Overseas Emigration would charge for ACS assessment and for whole process? What is their company URL so that i can check. It was nine years ago we did it, then it was £750 for the ACS assessment but that was an RPL so much more to it, I can't remember the overall cost but it was a couple of £1000, I don't remember the URL but I'm sure Google will find them, they are based in Edinburgh - but you don't need to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zpat978 Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 It was nine years ago we did it, then it was £750 for the ACS assessment but that was an RPL so much more to it, I can't remember the overall cost but it was a couple of £1000, I don't remember the URL but I'm sure Google will find them, they are based in Edinburgh - but you don't need to go there. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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