Leanne Stevens Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 You need a Cerificate of Evidence of Residency Status (CERS) for this purpose. There is a cost associated with obtaining it. Only one parent needs to get it. Your visa grant notice and passport and VEVO are not sufficient for proving that your Australian-born child is entitled to citizenship. Hi Guys, We moved here as PRs in September and had a child in January, just got her UK passport and now looking at her Aussie one which is proving trickier - Can anyone help with proof of permanent residency? Apparently visa labels are no longer available and none of the items here are acceptable - http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident I’m confused, why can’t the passport office just check VEVO? What is acceptable? Anyone have any experience of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Correct. When you apply for the citizenship certificate, you provide her birth cert and your passport details. Th certificate is issued by DIBP, so they can check their records to confirm that you were in fact a PR at the time of her birth. The passport office will then use the citizenship certificate to confirm that your daughter is, in fact, eligible for a passport. the issue is that passports are not issued by DIBP, they are issued by the Passport office, which is not part of DIBP (DFAT??) so they can't confirm that you were a permanent resident when your daughter was born, hence them requiring the citizenship certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isabelj28 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 You need a Cerificate of Evidence of Residency Status (CERS) for this purpose. There is a cost associated with obtaining it. Only one parent needs to get it. Your visa grant notice and passport and VEVO are not sufficient for proving that your Australian-born child is entitled to citizenship. That is not what the form says. It says 'if available' for proof of PR status and does not reference CERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco56 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Hi Guys, We moved here as PRs in September and had a child in January, just got her UK passport and now looking at her Aussie one which is proving trickier - Can anyone help with proof of permanent residency? Apparently visa labels are no longer available and none of the items here are acceptable - http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident I’m confused, why can’t the passport office just check VEVO? What is acceptable? Anyone have any experience of this? Yes I agree Cubiscus this process can be confusing. I think you've already found Form 119 Application for Australian Citizenship which can be used to obtain a Cert of Citizenship for your child. In the evidence requirements in Table B it specifies 'Evidence of one parent's permanent residence (if available)'. It goes on to mention visa labels etc and this causes the confusion. It appears to cater only for those (pre 2015) that may have a real visa label but the language is misleading. The guidelines perhaps could be improved by saying: Provide a copy of your passport with visa label, or in the case of electronic labels, please provide a copy of the passport to which the electronic label is attached. Just provide a copy of the ID page of the passport to which your electronic visa has been assigned. DIBP can then use your passport number to confirm that you had PR when your Australian born child arrived. When you come to passport application you can enter both your child's birth certificate details and their citizenship certificate details and you can ignore any references to requiring proof that either parent is an Australian Citizen. Your persistence will be rewarded and remember to remind your child (at their 21'st birthday party) that you once had a full head of hair, but that you sacrificed that to obtain their Australian Citizenship. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 You need a Cerificate of Evidence of Residency Status (CERS) for this purpose. There is a cost associated with obtaining it. Only one parent needs to get it. Your visa grant notice and passport and VEVO are not sufficient for proving that your Australian-born child is entitled to citizenship.According to the list the CERS certificate is also not acceptable? http://www.border.gov.au/Lega/Lega/Form/Immi-FAQs/born-after-1986-one-parent-resident When you apply for the citizenship certificate, you provide her birth cert and your passport details. Th certificate is issued by DIBP, so they can check their records to confirm that you were in fact a PR at the time of her birth.Ok thanks, that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I am sure immigration can see that you are permanent residents. Of course they can, but they make you prove it. They would be all over you like a rash if you were not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yes I agree Cubiscus this process can be confusing. I think you've already found Form 119 Application for Australian Citizenship which can be used to obtain a Cert of Citizenship for your child. In the evidence requirements in Table B it specifies 'Evidence of one parent's permanent residence (if available)'. It goes on to mention visa labels etc and this causes the confusion. It appears to cater only for those (pre 2015) that may have a real visa label but the language is misleading. The guidelines perhaps could be improved by saying: Provide a copy of your passport with visa label, or in the case of electronic labels, please provide a copy of the passport to which the electronic label is attached. Just provide a copy of the ID page of the passport to which your electronic visa has been assigned. DIBP can then use your passport number to confirm that you had PR when your Australian born child arrived. When you come to passport application you can enter both your child's birth certificate details and their citizenship certificate details and you can ignore any references to requiring proof that either parent is an Australian Citizen. Your persistence will be rewarded and remember to remind your child (at their 21'st birthday party) that you once had a full head of hair, but that you sacrificed that to obtain their Australian Citizenship. Regards Fantastic advice, thanks Ricco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gill2015 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hi Guys, Anybody has any idea for processing of evidence of Australian citizenship for child how long takes ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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