mrbangaram Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Hello Everyone, Firstly I have applied for rsms as Store Manager have been working in the same role for last 3 yrs. Nomination and Visa applied on 07/08/14 Did not receive any updates so far,but yesterday cpl of immi officers have visited the work place around 7.30 in the evening and they started questioing one of my staff(new staff started 3 months ago) they have asked him the following : Role of Manager Role of owner Employee details etc. The staff said that i am the manager and i run the busieness, and said that owner also works in the afternoons,infact the owner was here only to cover cpl of hours of shift as one the staff was sick and she doesnt work. When i have informed all this to my migration agent he said that he cant really say anything about it as i still did not have a cade officer, Can anyone advise on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Nobody can advise you. What do you want advising on? You just have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Nobody can advise you. What do you want advising on? You just have to wait. hi blossom i appreciate for ur post, i asked for advise i.e did anyone came across same situation? or is it common for the immi to visit the work place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 No, it isn't common at all. Yours is the first case I've seen on the forums for about two years. It seems to happen if immigration are not quite convinced about an application. From what your co worker told them it sounds like you should be fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 No, it isn't common at all. Yours is the first case I've seen on the forums for about two years. It seems to happen if immigration are not quite convinced about an application. From what your co worker told them it sounds like you should be fine though. Thanks blossom, but my co worker said that owner also working in the store so only worried about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 1234 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Do you have a visa to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 I've not heard of Immigration Officers visiting the workplace either - I am a bit confused, are you currently residing in Australia, the UK or elsewhere? I am surprised if you are outside of Australia DIBP would have the resources to make site visits. It doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about, if you are the Stores Manager and the employee said that then it supports your application. There is no reason why an owner is considered the manager, that's not the case in many businesses - the owner makes the investment it doesn't mean they have the skills to run the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Do you have a visa to work?yes iam on bridging visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 I've not heard of Immigration Officers visiting the workplace either - I am a bit confused, are you currently residing in Australia, the UK or elsewhere? I am surprised if you are outside of Australia DIBP would have the resources to make site visits. It doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about, if you are the Stores Manager and the employee said that then it supports your application. There is no reason why an owner is considered the manager, that's not the case in many businesses - the owner makes the investment it doesn't mean they have the skills to run the business.iam in australia,the only thing i was worried was my co worker said that the owner works in the afternoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 When the DIBP turned up to make an announced 'workplace visit' they should have been told to make an appointment via your agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 When the DIBP turned up to make an announced 'workplace visit' they should have bee told to make an appointment via your agent. Interesting. I know there was a spate of visits for the rsms about two years ago. A few people on the rsms thread were refused visas as the work place was shut, or the random person they asked questions didn't say exactly what they wanted to hear. Even the odd one through a phone call to whoever answered the phone. Some using agents and still tough basically 'tough' when pointed out they didn't speak to the correct people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Interesting. I know there was a spate of visits for the rsms about two years ago. A few people on the rsms thread were refused visas as the work place was shut, or the random person they asked questions didn't say exactly what they wanted to hear. Even the odd one through a phone call to whoever answered the phone. Some using agents and still tough basically 'tough' when pointed out they didn't speak to the correct people. None of mine. Clients should be prepared for this possibility by their agents and have the appropriate parties briefed. I have had a self employed client who contradicted his own reference when contacted. A case where the girl on the phone had 'never heard of him', because he was known to her by a nickname, a HR department clerk who referred to an historical duty statement that had little to do with the duties my client was performing, a security officer with an axe to grind who denied that my client had ever worked there, a case officer who accused me of manufacturing an employment certificate and so on. I prevailed in every case. If you want to know how to fix this sort of thing, just ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blossom Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I'm sure it's far too late for any of the people a couple of years ago. I warned everyone I worked with to possibly expect a visit. :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I was offering a general warning, which I expect everyone to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 but in my case the co worker did mention to them about me and my role but only flaw i felt was he mentioned that owner also working, does this could be a potential threat for the application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 If you've told the truth & everything to do with the business (& the owner) is perfectly legal & in order then why would you worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 If you've told the truth & everything to do with the business (& the owner) is perfectly legal & in order then why would you worry? It is not a matter of telling the truth, it is a matter of satisfying officers that you were telling the truth and the truth you and others were telling satisfies the decision maker that the applicable regulations were satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 If you've told the truth & everything to do with the business (& the owner) is perfectly legal & in order then why would you worry? what iam worried is if the owner himself working in the business does he need a manager?? as my owner has no idea about running the business or managing the business,just worried that immigration might say that owner is working in the business therefore no manager required?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbangaram Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 It is not a matter of telling the truth, it is a matter of satisfying officers that you were telling the truth and the truth you and others were telling satisfies the decision maker that the applicable regulations were satisfied. iam genuinely working in the same business as a store manager from past 3 years,just heard from some people that sometimes if the owner is working or visiting the business occasionally then immi might say that owner is managing the business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freesia Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 It is not......merely............ a matter of telling the truth, it is a matter of satisfying officers that you were telling the truth and the truth you and others were telling satisfies the decision maker that the applicable regulations were satisfied. ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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