Ami McBride Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Hi everyone, ive been reading the thread for a while and you all seem really knowledgeable so i feel confident you will be able to answer some of my questions. Does anyone know when the next round is for the 189 visa? it might sound silly but who pays for the 190 visa, the territory or us? We have our qualifications transferred and all so we are ready to go through an EOI for a visa, is there a template anywhere with the questions asked in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhm Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 EOI next invitation is tomorrow then again on the 6th January. To lodge an EOI is free and questions are pretty generic. As far as a 189 visa go's you have to wait until you are invited to apply, and you pay for the lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 would you advise nominating a territory or leave it open, i have read up on it and as much as i dont want to minimise the opportunities available i know that by identifying the territory you can be seen as committed to them to mention it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhm Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 190 SS visa if you need extra points. If you don't a 189 independent visa would be the best IMO. Initially I was applying for a 190 but needed a twelve month job offer after they changed some conditions! so had to apply for 189 visa instead, personally 189 visa sounds a better option as you aren't tied down to one specific state for two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 our points are fine and i had thought a 189 sounds like a better option, im filling the eoi in now and im at the education part, am i putting in all the uk education or just the qualification that vetassess gave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhm Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 I'm sure it's just vetassess. Can't really remember, sorry. I'm sure it refers to secondary or above if I recall correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 666 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Enter all qualifications that you can provide evidence for. O levels, GCSE's, A levels, NVQ's degrees....... It's all about details, details and more details. They can't take anything away from you for providing too much info but they can be a pain if you don't provide enough. As for the 190, if you are on SOL and so your occupation qualifies you for 189 them the only reasons to go for 190 are if you need the extra 5 points or if you've just scraped over 60 and you want to improve your chances of an earlier invite as 190's aren't ranked by highest points first. 190's can take a while to get assessed by the states, although you will get an invite as soon as the state approves you and not on set days each month and you need to make sure your occupation is on the individual list of the state you want to apply to. As to leaving it open to all states, I know it's changed a bit since I went through my 190 but I was advised to specify a state otherwise they don't think you're serious about wanting to go to them. And you need to pay any state sponsorship fees, although not all states charge from my past experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Thats brilliant guys thanks, what is confusing me is that the qualifications from vetassess dont give you an institute, campus and no dates to and from, they were applied for and received in order to transfer qualifications for the nominated skill (HGV Mechanic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Thats brilliant guys thanks, what is confusing me is that the qualifications from vetassess dont give you an institute, campus and no dates to and from, they were applied for and received in order to transfer qualifications for the nominated skill (HGV Mechanic) Hi Ami, Did you complete the Vetassess Offshore Skills Assessment Program and get issued with a cert III as a result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Yes adam i did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 right last question then im submitting, as a british passport holder i dont need to take the elts test, so when they ask Has the client undertaken an English language test within the last 36 months? If i say no am i marked down in points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 666 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) No you won't lose points. You can only gain points from IELTS by entering yes and then entering the score. I think it's a generic question to be filled in for applicants from non-English speaking nations. Edited December 15, 2013 by Gareth 666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Ok, the case officer will understand that it's from recognition of prior learning and not a formal course of study. I would enter the institution as Vetassess, the campus as N/A and the start/end date as the issue date on the certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Hi guys, ive got to the last page of the eoi and for the 189 it states The EOI for this subclass is able to be completed. The client's claims equal 55 points. Am i right in thinking you are supposed to need 60? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yes you need 60 points to be invited for a 189 visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 ive just checked out the points scoring and with our language as native speakers we havent recieved any points, if we recieved points for this we would have 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 You don't have to take IELTS as a UK passport holder, but you won't receive any points either. If you score IELTS 7 in all four bands you would receive an extra 10 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest 47403 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 ive just checked out the points scoring and with our language as native speakers we havent recieved any points, if we recieved points for this we would have 70 Have you completed an ielts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 no i havent completed elts but im going to look into completing it if it will score me more points, i thought i read that for being an english native speaker you recieved 15 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 666 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) no i havent completed elts but im going to look into completing it if it will score me more points, i thought i read that for being an english native speaker you recieved 15 points I just double checked on skillselect in case there had been changes but sadly there's no 15 points simply for being an English native speaker. The only extra points awarded for language ability come from IELTS where you get 10 points for achieving level 7 in all four components or 20 points for scoring four 8's. So I'm now guessing you only have 55 points and will need an extra 5 from somewhere? Probably a good idea for you to check www.immi.gov.au/visas/pages/190.aspx where the points allocation is clearly spelled out. (click points test tab then 'how points are awarded') Edited December 17, 2013 by Gareth 666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Grey Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 no i havent completed elts but im going to look into completing it if it will score me more points, i thought i read that for being an english native speaker you recieved 15 points A long time ago you could gain 15 points by having IELTS 6, so perhaps you're reading outdated information? I don't mean to sound blunt, but if you're at the stage where you're submitting your EOI you really need to ensure that the information you're entering is accurate and meets the current legislation. If you receive an invitation now based upon incorrect information and cannot later evidence this when you lodge your application you would be refused and you would likely lose your application fee. There is a wealth of accurate information available for your perusal but there's also a ton of nonsense too. You need to check and double check against the requirements before submitting anything, or hire an agent to do it for you, but what you can't do is go into it without thorough research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami McBride Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 So I'm now guessing you only have 55 points and will need an extra 5 from somewhere? Probably a good idea for you to check www.immi.gov.au/visas/pages/190.aspx where the points allocation is clearly spelled out. (click points test tab then 'how points are awarded') I cant believe i did not see that the first 200 hundred times i looked but thanks, Ielts test booked for 18th January. Thanks for all the help!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth 666 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I cant believe i did not see that the first 200 hundred times i looked but thanks, Ielts test booked for 18th January. Thanks for all the help!! Good luck with the IELTS. Last piece of advice, get some revision material for it. It's not the 'turn up speak a bit of English and get top marks' walk in the park that some think it will be. There's free stuff online and plenty on eBay/Amazon or directly from the testers. Also there's loads of threads on here on IELTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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