goslar Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I am considering to migrate to Australia by applying for state sponsorship. My occupation falls into NSW - University Lecturer OR Victoria - Life Scientist NEC OR QLD - Microbiologist Which one would be easier? Any advice and shared experience is welcome! Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Wow you have a number of occupations there to choose from. I suppose it all depends which area you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 i think i will first try NSW - University lecturer, as i do have 4 years of recent and solid university teaching experience The last year, i mainly focused on scientific research, therefore, I think i am also eligible to apply as a Microbiologist, as that has been my major focus since my undergraduate training.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoannaAch Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I am considering to migrate to Australia by applying for state sponsorship. My occupation falls into NSW - University Lecturer OR Victoria - Life Scientist NEC OR QLD - Microbiologist Which one would be easier? Any advice and shared experience is welcome! Many thanks! If I were you I would try with University Lecturer first, as: 1. Victoria requires 5 years of experience for Life Scientist nec and they are also very picky about the exact research field you work in. You can't tell if they are sponsoring Microbiologists at the moment and you may waste a lot of time waiting for them to process your application. There is a report called "Final-Biotechnology-Skills-Review-August-2010" were they list skills that are really needed. You can download it online, but it is already 3 years old... 2. NSW sponsors all applicants that fulfill the minimal criteria - you don't risk getting rejected. Also, I think there are more job opportunities in NSW than anywhere else and it is easier to get a job. 3. I can't tell anything about QLS - only that I do not see that many jobs advertised on any website with science-related jobs. Although that might not mean anything as there would be also less candidates applying for each. Hope that helps! Good luck with your application. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Hi, Jo, Your replies are always helpful and informative! Yes, I decided to try the NSW Uni Lecturer. Better not risk with Victoria SS, and I see that Queensland only sponsors a low number of applicants in the recent rounds. I just sent out my application for Vetassess assessment, I hope that goes well. Let's see.... Indeed, i do worry about how they assess qualifications. I do have a British BSc (Hons), but I did it part-time, and it was after I first got a Higher Diploma in the same subject. Therefore, my part-time degree was finished within a relatively short time (2 years). I hope that they would just see that the UK and Australian BSc are equivalent.... If I were you I would try with University Lecturer first, as:1. Victoria requires 5 years of experience for Life Scientist nec and they are also very picky about the exact research field you work in. You can't tell if they are sponsoring Microbiologists at the moment and you may waste a lot of time waiting for them to process your application. There is a report called "Final-Biotechnology-Skills-Review-August-2010" were they list skills that are really needed. You can download it online, but it is already 3 years old... 2. NSW sponsors all applicants that fulfill the minimal criteria - you don't risk getting rejected. Also, I think there are more job opportunities in NSW than anywhere else and it is easier to get a job. 3. I can't tell anything about QLS - only that I do not see that many jobs advertised on any website with science-related jobs. Although that might not mean anything as there would be also less candidates applying for each. Hope that helps! Good luck with your application. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest littlesarah Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 You may want to have a look at job opportunities at NSW unis at some point before you get here. The landscape is likely to change in future. Some institutions already won't recruit anyone without a PhD to an ongoing lecturing position, though having a great research & publication track record always helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I agree with the above, Little Sarah and I are both academics, and I fully agree that you may find in majority of cases that a PhD is essential criteria for a lecturer. At my establishment it is essential, end of. You may get associate lecturer work on a contract basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Thanks both Little Sarah and Tickled Pink. As a matter of fact, I do have a PhD. However, my scientific track is not too smooth so far, I finished my PhD and stop for few years before engaging in my last position to teach at a College (degree level) for 4 years. The job was so busy, and i had little time to do research at all. Since last year, I have been in a job, which I do not need to teach a lot, but have more time to reveal the literature, think about research and write papers. So, hopefully, I can anticipate to boost my publication a bit.... Certainly, i would be glad to have a lecturing position in NSW, otherwise, I am also happy to work as Research Associate or even move to the industry.... By the way, are there jobs for microbiologists around?! I indeed don't mind starting off from a lower position.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickled Pink Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Ah, well that changes things for you! Why are you talking about your BSc when you have a PhD! Very different situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 hee.... as i am not sure about their criteria for assessment... whether they need to get an 'exact' qualification matched... I worry that they would think my BSc is too short (as I saw other peoples' posts that they got Vetassess negatively assessed because of the short of credit after a direct comparison of the degree). I also have a Bristish MSc (1 year), and a German PhD (3 years). Again, the during of my PhD is shorter than the normal Australian one, so I am not sure how they would see it. But, I guess, now, it is more up to them than me.... just need to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest littlesarah Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Duration to complete a PhD can vary- I'm not going to make fast progress because for my project data collection takes a long time, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. I don't know about microbiology, as I'm a health scientist, but if you have a look at the uni jobs website you should get an idea about the work situation. But things may change once the government gets established, we'll all have to wait & see how things turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 Duration to complete a PhD can vary- I'm not going to make fast progress because for my project data collection takes a long time, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.I don't know about microbiology, as I'm a health scientist, but if you have a look at the uni jobs website you should get an idea about the work situation. But things may change once the government gets established, we'll all have to wait & see how things turn out. yes, that's true, policies always change. I often think that it may anyway take up to a year, or even longer for the application to finish.... just wait and see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 but certainly it would be good to check for job opening, when the time is closer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest littlesarah Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Sometimes there are causal or fixed term hours going - I got my first job here after a tip-off that the uni might have some work. That helped me to get an ongoing job when one came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goslar Posted October 14, 2013 Author Share Posted October 14, 2013 ic, thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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