BendigoBoy

Just now, bluequay said:

All fair points, but if they don't have an aptitude for coding they will be mediocre at best. Aptitude will always determine how good they will be, I've known a lot of very intelligent people who really struggle with coding as their brain just don't work in that way.

Absolutely. We're more on the same page than not, mate.

End of the day, I want tickets moved and products built. If people can't do that, they need to move on.

3 minutes ago, bluequay said:

A lot of the better coders I know haven't been near a university. Education might get you through the door, but it's an occupation that is really down to aptitude, you've either got it or you don't

Yes and no.  I've only met a handful of self-taught developers who really have a decent aptitude with complex algorithms and mathematics.  That's not to dismiss folk or say there aren't any.  I'd still rather have someone from one of the decent ancient universities any day of the week, though; at least they generally know how to balance soft skills with tech skills.

39 minutes ago, shridharshanvak said:

Well I thought about that too honestly but some say taking Masters in Artificial Intelligence in Monash is better than Adelaide .... 

I don't want to put *anyone* off furthering themselves; however, quite honestly, I care less about postgrad degrees when I am interviewing, and infinitely more on whether the person I am interviewing can (most importantly) communicate clearly and (almost as importantly) knows what the hell they're doing.

A bit of gumption is never a bad thing in our industry, buddy.

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.

P.S.  Monash is a good university; but I see far too many people just "chasing degrees" rather than actually learning to do a decent job.  I'd rather take the grafters than the grifters.

30 minutes ago, jessi said:

Thank you, would you know of a safe rural area not too bad to commute from towards deer park?

Or any areas to avoid. 

Too easy.  Look at Eynesbury, unless you have a pet cat.

2 hours ago, jessi said:

What about sunbury do you know? 

Would that be a nice neighbourhood for children and teens would anyone know? I see it was mentioned up above.

I see a few kids have recently gone missing around sunbury but then again that could be runaway teens long back home. It's so hard to know without actually being there.

Once we make the decision if we're going it'll be super quick so I'm hoping I can think of anything beforehand that could become a problem. 

Sunbury's fine (just, for the love of God, don't accidentally move to Sunshine).  Got a couple of colleagues who live there, and they're quite happy.

If any kids have gone missing around there and anything untoward happened, it's not made the headlines over here as far as I've seen or heard on the radio.

On 13/04/2024 at 20:13, shridharshanvak said:

I am a bachelor of computer science student in India and I have applied for both Monash and Adelaide but I'm not sure which one to choose and which university would provide me with a better job and lifestyle.

Neither will. Your skills, application, and interviews with employers will provide you with a job.

Honestly, from what Adelaide teach on their masters courses you'd be better off doing three months of intensive self study on computational neuroscience, LLMs, fuzzy logic application etc etc than spending tens of thousands on a churnmill degree

1 hour ago, Parley said:

According to wikipedia it can lapse if you leave UK for more than 2 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_leave_to_remain

So much for "indefinite"

8 hours ago, 5Evns said:

Hi all,

The fam and I have been back in Syd for 2 years and we are considering moving back to the UK. 
DH is English and 3 kids are all dual. I’m an Aussie and was granted an IRL a year before we decided it was time to move back to  syd. We stayed in the UK for close to 4 years but 2 of those were Covid restricted. In hindsight we prob should have stayed and given it more time but I had enough (various reasons) and wanted a better life especially with the kids. 

So now comes another huge decision, and there are numerous reasons for considering a move but a huge pull is not having mortgage stress. We would have little to possibly no mortgage in the UK depending on the type of house we buy. Another factor was being closer to Europe, we’d have the ability to travel during school holidays. At the moment, we can barely afford to do much outside of bills etc. Our thinking is that we would have more of a life there, despite the weather! 

we have thought about moving to other parts of Aus but my family are in sydney and our jobs are great here so commuting is too difficult especially with young kids. Eg we considered the central coast but there’s no childcare vacancies and DH doesn’t want to commute everyday. We thought about Brisbane, Perth etc but the pull is having my support network in sydney. 

We have 2 kids in primary and one in childcare. Primary kids prefer aus but they are young enough to adapt so it’s not a major concern. 

is it a no brainer? Will we regret it? I’ll miss my fam but they will visit. DH’s family can’t afford to visit aus which makes him homesick. 
 

also another question for any visa experts. What do I do with my visa, is it void now I’ve been out of the UK for over 2 years? Or can I just reapply for the IRL? (Granted 2021) 

sorry for the waffle…just a huge brain dump as we are torn..
 

 

I wouldn't trade Oz for the world; however, you have a solid ally here in living mortgage free. 

If you have indefinite leave to remain, my understanding is it doesn't expire, but on that I will yield to anyone more in the know.

Whatever you decide: Good luck!

14 hours ago, jessi said:

Thanks for that.

It would be for the first while until everyone is settled and I could then work in a Crèche. However the 200k is only the first years pay, it will increase yearly. 

Jealous. Haven't seen a payrise in 3 years!

1 hour ago, Ausvisitor said:

True but that's 16 minutes walk from my office on Collins st. 

A nice scenic walk and free exercise!

55 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said:

(oh and the $12 an hour parking in the city isn't fun unless that's covered)

Southgate isn't too bad if you're in early and leave after 2pm. Something like $25 a day

3 minutes ago, rammygirl said:

...or a Aus passport 

Which puzzles me.  The R series passports are just so bloody gorgeous.

Just now, can1983 said:

just dont turn to crime to replace the lost income i suppose thats not such a good idea for pr holders, a least wait until you are a citizen 

And please keep to the Western Suburbs if you do.

41 minutes ago, paulhand said:

The 187 was closed to new applicants in 2019, unless they were in a transition stream, which the OP is clearly not. 

Coolies   This is why I so very often caveat everything with my stock phrase of "I do, as always, yield to any RMA".

Just now, Quoll said:

You could do much worse than Ballarat.  

Although maybe give it a miss if you enjoy going for walks or jogging.

Personally?  I'd be suggesting somewhere like Sunbury or the outskirts.  Could probably pick up something that's a little more out in the sticks but still less than a 15 minute drive to Tullamarine, or a hop to the station to get into Southern Cross.

7 hours ago, jessi said:

 

Would we be living ok as a family of 5 on that starting money? We have 2 teenagers and a 5 year old.

 

How long is a piece of string?  That's going to be down to your lifestyle, as much as anything.  $200k would be a palatial income for some, it'd barely cut it for others.  Personally, I think it's a pretty darned strong number.

Where you're going to have a bit of an issue is something "rural" an hour from Melbourne, if you're thinking of that being a commuting time during rush hour.  I used to live in Caulfield South and it would regularly take 50 minutes to drive into the CBD at 7am.  At 7pm, less than 15 minutes.

You might want to look around Lilydale and such areas in the Eastern Suburbs if you want something that's a bit more countryside.  But it'll hardly be rural.

Last I checked, it was only 71 genders.  

As for drugs, you'll get those sorts of problems all over the world.  Western suburbs can be particularly prone to things like ice, but you have to balance it out with the coke heads in Brighton.

Pretty sure Fire Fighter is on the SOL for 187 nomination; as @Marisawright says - definitely worth consulting a registered migration agent.  

5 hours ago, mrdgoode said:

...I didn't know if there was a consensus within the community of particular company or even specific agent that provides a great service?  

Any of the registered migration agents who post regularly on this forum would be worth consulting.

In terms of cost?  An absolute drop in the ocean compared to the rest of the costs you'll find associated with immigrating.

If you get a 189, you can work at anything you like as long as you can secure the job. No need to stay in any one profession.

1 hour ago, Ferbs said:

Hi

i have recently moved from the UK and have got a drivers license for a car. I need a motorcycle license to ride a motorcycle license so do I need to do a full theory test again in this country to get that or directly apply for the motorcycle lessons and test?

Depends on your state, really.

Neither me nor my wife have ever even sat on a motorcycle, but Vic Roads still gave us a completely unrestricted full R licence when we converted our UK licences.

15 minutes ago, llessur said:

Whilst I'm sure the level of education is comparable, the fact that in the UK pretty much everyone leaves home to go to uni makes the experience many times richer, more character-building and more fun than simply commuting to your local uni in Oz whilst living with your parents and not really changing your life in any other way.

 

A bit of an oversimplification to say pretty much everyone.  In the West of Scotland, it's extremely common for students to live at home (from as far afield as Ayrshire) and commute into Glasgow to attend university.  I was very much the outlier when I left the fold to go to St Andrews.

31 minutes ago, Dravest said:

Yh i got everything except primary documents. got some advice from the ATO & Home affairs & applied for an Immicard so i can get a tax file number & can get my citizenship & passport along the way so eveyrhting is gouing well thanks to eveyrone pointing me in the right direction 

Hopefully that citizenship application is sorted out nice and quickly for you, mate.  Then hopefully no need for you to concern yourself over your docos from there on out. 

Last two engineers I hired, I just couldn't tolerate the arrogance of the younger folk that were sat in front of me (let alone the absurd salaries they were asking).  Both of the successful applicants were a good few years older than me, had experience I could only dream of, and have been nothing less than stellar performers.

Sadly, this is - in my experience - still an unusual situation in the Australian tech sector.

Which is all the more insane given the number of younglings that go into the field only to burn out or quit after five years because they realise how much hard work is actually involved. Give me a dyed in the wool expert any day of the week over an uppity upstart.

45 minutes ago, Dravest said:

i think it is mate i'll try and make it easier to undertsand i'm a PR so i'm legally here but most PR get their visa renewed before 5 years i didn';t renew becausse my fatehr couldn't be bothered to as i was too young to understand any of it & is now causing issues in obatining legal documents mostly category a documents which are citizenship,birth certificate, passport, Drivers license, Immicard, i have every other document only 1 category A (leaners permit) but To apply for a TFN you do need one primary identity document, like a passport or a birth certificate. Without one of those the application won't be accepted so that's my main issue 

Aw mate, I have no advice to offer.  But I really hope you can find a resolution to this.