pravincv

1 hour ago, dejuvu said:

We recently applied for our 186 visa and this is shown on the immiaccount. The estimated waiting time says it between 5-8 months. I wonder why is it different from the time frame indicated on the website? May I know which is more reliable? 

you have not mentioned if it is 186 DE TRT or Agreement Pathway. It looks like yours is the agreement pathway category - which has a 5-8 month period as of now on the website as well

58 minutes ago, Mang said:

Hi everyone  

I have applied nomination and visa file same time. And I have got email from Immigration asking for s56(afp,P.Cc,and relationship proof) but I haven’t received anything about my nomination. Is that mean nomination is all good to go or they can ask visa documents before nominations? Bit confused 

trt cook 

The nomination document requests, if any ,all go to your employer or  agent.  Check with them.

I suspect the nomination is done however since visa processing begins only if nomination is granted

3 hours ago, fifi186 said:

is there a tracking sheet for visa 186?

I've provided information on this to you earlier as well.

Here are the links for SIGNATURE AND TRACKING SHEET FOR 186.  If you forget, check for @sydneyishuk's posts. its part of his signature.

1. Update your Profile: -> https://www.pomsinoz.com/settings/signature/ or click on your account in the top right -> Account Settings -> Signature
2. The Spreadsheet is here: ENS 186 Timeline - Google Sheets

36 minutes ago, fifi186 said:

@pravincvim not sure how to do the signature. But my occupation is Accountant (General). Nomination applied on February 28, and approved on April 3

You might as well apply if nomination is approved. Worst case you lose money. Withdraw the other application the moment one of them comes through. There's no guarantees of wait times as you've probably seen with posts on this board. 

7 minutes ago, fifi186 said:

@pravincvbut i can see from yours you got you nomination and visa approved in slightly over a  month?

What's your occupation etc. Please update your signature. Clearly though processing times are not transparent, there are factors like occupation and accredited sponsorship that may allow one to hazard a guess

15 minutes ago, fifi186 said:

@pravincv Its 190 that I have been invited and applied for and it seems like there has been a halt in the processing. I already have my 186 nomination approved and the 6 months to submit the application is due soon.

When submitting the application for 186, for all occupations which I have ticked as related to nomination occupation, must I provide supporting documents? Or can I just provide supporting docs for employment for 3 years.

better to ask the MA. however, you probably have all the docs from your 190 application, so you might as well use it. 190 is taking upwards of 8 months. 186 processing is in that range as well. you'll end up paying twice. 

26 minutes ago, fifi186 said:

Must I withdraw my other pending visa applications in order to submit application for visa 186?

Not necessary. however, if you are granted 186 and the next moment your 187 is also granted, then 187 will override your earlier grant. the PR grant letter advises you to withdraw any other application.

i am not sure why you are trying to apply both 189 and 186 ? delays and waiting times are unpredictable for both. have you been invited and applied 189/190?

it would be wise to withdraw any non -PR visa application however. a 482 overriding a 186 would be unfortunate.

Follow the below links to update your timeline as well as your signature so that people commenting can get a better picture of your situation.

1. Update your Profile: -> https://www.pomsinoz.com/settings/signature/ or click on your account in the top right -> Account Settings -> Signature
2. The Spreadsheet is here: ENS 186 Timeline - Google Sheets

6 minutes ago, Nagra77 said:

Hi Guys 

can you help me out I wanted to know how I can check my nomination status on immi account because my MA only lodge nomination application not visa yet so someone said you can go to immi account and click on import but it didn’t work 

please let me know 

thank you 

you cant check nomination application on immiaccount. only your MA and employer can. you shouldnt try to import the nomination, only your visa application

Update: Lunch time today will be more enjoyable. Just logged into immaccount to see my visa's been finalized. one day after my birthday! and 33 days after application

Wish everyone a speedy grant 

29 minutes ago, Hex said:

@pravincv Sorry, not correct. 

The HAP ID related to the application its being made for. 

You could have (unlikely) 5, 186 applications, each one would need it's own HAP ID, else you'd upload 5 medicals to the same visa application (not very useful). 

what fifi186 was asking was if he/she could use mention the HAPID generated for applying another visa (say 189) in the 186 application. the answer is ofcourse yes. you dont need to do a separate medical test for each PR visa you apply.

i had a 189 visa HAPID which i used in my 186 visa application. infact, there is no 186 visa option while generating the  HAPID at all - they've removed it or the site is broken. 

9 minutes ago, fifi186 said:

can i use the hapid from another visa application or must i do one specifucally for 186?

whats the other visa category? if its 189/190/187, then yes. the requirements should be the same. one from 482/457 wont work

1 minute ago, Milan SERBIA said:

Hi Bips22

Sorry to bother you bro, just wanted to ask you how sure you are that if you are on annual leave overseas is not countable for immigration for the 2 or 3 years working experience even if it’s annual leave?

You make me feel worried now cuz I have applied 12th of June this year for 186DE and one of the requirements was to have 3 years working experience in order to apply , and I started working for my company on 15 of May  2016 but I went last year 4 weeks overseas on holiday (annual leave from my company) so now I am freaking out that my application going to be maybe refused because of few days?!?!?

Can you pls share any information you know about this with me or anyone else ?

 Thanks 

pretty sure, paid leave counts as experience. unpaid leave may be a grey area. it should not matter one bit if you spend that leave overseas or inside australia as long as your current visa is valid and allows you to return. if its bridging visa A, obviously you cant return until you've a new grant. 

people should start asking MA's more questions  they are paid to answer

10 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

 

I am pretty sure thought that you need to have those 2/3 years experience at the time of applying - not during the waiting period for visa grant - best out check that out too.

this.  TRT should already have the 3 yrs fully valid experience before applying. if leaves are part of your benefits package, it would be weird not to take it. i can understand the MA warning you if it were unpaid leave.  not taking leave because your visa is under processing seems against the spirit and letter of the employment contract!

8 minutes ago, Ashu2424 said:

Hi all,

Just wanted to share good news.

I have received PR today.

186 direct entry

HR country

Software Engineer

Both nomination and visa filed on 9th July 2019

Direct Grant on 27th Aug 2019

Awesome. Congratulations. Looks like July nominations are being looked at now!

6 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

Correct I am not objecting to that fact - everyone is entitled to resign - that is not the point I am making.

It is the fact that you make a declaration when completing your 186 visa application that you agree to take up the position for at least two years, if it is reported to Immi by your employer which the person stated that their employer advised they were not happy with them leaving to go to another employer within the two years than it can potentially put his/her visa at risk.

I am not taking about employment entitlements or leaving an employer as everyone has that human right.

It is an obligation to do with this the Employer Nominated Visa.  

Not to split hairs, but if your employer is reporting you, it means a)there's something in the contract which is making him unhappy. I know people whose contract says that if they leave within two years, there's a financial penalty to pay. This is a valid contract which should be present before filing the visa nomination. b) if it's a small business it's likely that the contract wasn't as watertight and the employer has to resort to threats in the place of a contract that works

It's not about human rights, just contrac law

19 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

Who are your Eminent MAs?? 

Well I was clearly staying that if your nominating employer reports you to Immi then could lead to issues, especially if the PR has been recently granted.

 

SOURCE: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/employer-nomination-scheme-186/temporary-residence-transition-stream#When

In this section;

What you must do on this visa (your obligations)

You and your family members must obey all Australian laws.

We expect that you will work for your nominating employer for at least 2 years. If you don't, we might cancel your visa.

You must begin your employment within 6 months of:

• entering Australia if we granted you the visa outside Australia
• the visa grant date if we granted you the visa in Australia

yes, you are right - they "might" cancel the visa if there is fraud. this contract for 2 years refers to the one that exists outside the immi process. everyone has an employment contract which indicates how you may leave legally or be let go legally. if the employer is threatening to report you, you must know your rights before taking it at face value. consult a lawyer or an MA.

11 minutes ago, Hex said:

@pravincv Funny that you came here for support and advice seeing as though it's full of "silly post on pomsinoz". 

@sydneyishuk is correct and there are conditions attached whereby if the employers see's fit and has evidence can lodge a complaint to Immi and they can open a case against you, resulting in the possibility of your visa being cancelled (even after grant - within the 2 years). 

If your preference is accepting what the MA says then please leave it there, there is no point asking this forum further, especially if it's full of "silly posts". 

i am not here for advice definitely. for that I have an MA!  You need to read my post again - the silly post was referring to someone making their intentions of leaving their employer during the visa application process .that would be fraudulent and silly (shooting one's own foot)

10 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

I did not say resignation is fraudulent.

186 is granted on the basis that you intend to stay with your employer for the 2 years. if as soon as he receives the PR and resigns to change employer than if his Nominating employer reports to Immi then he is at risk that the visa may be cancelled -  as clear did not intend to work for the 2 years.

Also on Immi website it clearly states that once you have the 186 VISA: We expect that you will work for your nominating employer for at least 2 years. If you don't, we might cancel your visa.

Could you please point to the immi website link which provides this statement? Eminent MAs have pointed out that unless you have evidence (mail or a silly post on pomsinoz declaring their intentions) that proves malafide intentions 186 doesn't hold any such conditions. 187 on the other hand does

18 minutes ago, sydneyishuk said:

Your employer is correct, the 186 PR application is employer nominated - it is granted based on the fact that your employer is offering you 2 year employment.  and is granted on the basis that you have advised Immi that you will continue to work with your employer for the 2 years from visa grant.

If your employer reports this to immigration your PR is at risk as you have provided fraudulent information as you have not intended to complete the 2 year employment post PR grant. 

Resignation is not fraudulent. This is bad information. You should have the intention to be in a 2 yr contract before applying and during the processing. That's it. The conditions of a 186 PR says " Nil". You are not an Indentured servant to do whatever your employer wants out of you! You can resign properly. Its up to your contract to determine how the resignation can be effected.  1 months notice or whatever. All contracts can be terminated legally. Illegal termination of contract(absconding in bad faith) is ofcourse grounds for fraud

1 hour ago, Milan SERBIA said:

Hi guys and dear friends,

Does anyone maybe knows what’s the average processing time for 186 Direct Entry Stream visa? 

Nomination: Metal Fabricator/ Boilermaker 

Thanks guys 

its not known. 75% of the cases are closed in 15 months as of now. some of them are processed in a few weeks, some in few months. they dont publish average waiting times

1 hour ago, Saugat said:

Hi guys. 

Should one  still pay medical levy if they have a private health insurance on a bridging visa A? I am entitled for provisional medicare card but i have not used medicare card yet.  Can anyone help me out please? 

you have not used it because you dont have one? or you have one but havent had an occasion to use it ? if you have a medicare card, you cant avoid medicare levy unless you earn less than 27k annually 

38 minutes ago, sachin1983 said:

Hi @pravincv May I request you to read my post again (please), I have not mentioned anything about TRT. So please do not say anything regarding the Legislation and Fraudulance, Grey area for my post.

I did not comment on TRT at all in that post.

you say" I would recommend you to please have a look at your submission documents, as you are a direct stream you are obliged to work for your employer for 2 years (correct me if I am wrong)."

i am correcting you since you are wrong. not only is this not selectively applicable to direct stream (it applies to 186 as a whole) but also, there no employment conditions except not making a fraudulent application that can result in the visa being cancelled. Normal employee turnover- resignation with proper notice IS NOT a cause for visa cancellation. layoffs, resignations etc are not fraudulent. they are normal business operations. if you abscond without notice ,then its a breach of contract in most permanent jobs. thats really about the only thing you need to ensure - leave through official channels 

187 visa on the other hand does require you to stick around for 2 yrs. even if laid off, you need to find employment in ONLY a regional area. 

Before application and during processing, you must have a permanent contract or atleast 2 years of confirmed contract with the employer. This is mandatory. 186 legislation doesnt have any employment conditions AFTER it is granted.

There is no evidence that this is not what the 186 visa intends. no migration agent has stated otherwise as well (i am not one)

56 minutes ago, sachin1983 said:

@Hex is totally right and also @Elise I would recommend you to please have a look at your submission documents, as you are a direct stream you are obliged to work for your employer for 2 years (correct me if I am wrong).

are you saying that TRT isnt obliged to work for 2  more years with the nominating employer?

the legislation says that you should have the intention to work for 2 years. if fraudulent intentions can be proven, then the visa will be cancelled. change of circumstances seem to be a grey area

33 minutes ago, Hex said:

Thanks @pravincv, at the risk of sounding REALLY lazy / pushing my luck - do you have a link . 

For you, anything my friend

14 minutes ago, Hex said:

Hi Guys

Keeping with the scope of "helping each other", I was wondering if anyone could help advise me here; 

I'm coming up to apply for citizenship and honestly have no idea where to start. Not many MA's assist here as it's not profitable for them and hence, I'd need to do this myself. 

There are a few people in my office that I could (and will) ask for assistance, but thought to start here. 
- I know this is slightly off topic to the forums scope but still think it could be useful to those that have PR and need to know the next steps?

Thanks in advance. 

There's a citizenship thread on this website just like the 186 one