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As Roberta pointed out, it's unlikely to be scrapped in its entirety. This pony has a little ways to run yet!!!

"It actually says that it estimates the Bill will not pass in its current form. Hardly a surprise. All Bills on contentious issues are subject to horsetrading. No one should expect that the Bill will be rejected in toto. Dutton is a powerful and determined Minister who has chalked up a number of successes lately and has significantly expanded his empire, (much to the chagrin of other senior Ministers) and Turnbull needs his support to fend off Abbott." A while they're looking inwards................

Sure, just as soon as I've finished watching the paint dry!

Depends....can you afford to lose whatever it is you may lose if her application is rejected?

So it seems they're not opposed to the backdating but rather that applications could still be lodged after 20 June. What he is really saying is that they support the legislation and the freeze, but because there was in their view a stuff-up in allowing applications to be lodged post 20 April, they'll graciously support those who feel their application should be processed on the basis of prevailing legislation.

The processing time frame is really starting to blow out now.... Conferral (lodgement to ceremony**) 11 months 16 months

Yes, they most likely would considering most if not all will be eligible to vote in the not too distant future. Don't forget just because an individual raising a concern on this forum may not be in a position to vote at present, there is a reasonable chance they have family members that may be eligible!

for what it may be worth.... https://www.gofundme.com/process-the-applications

That would be a hard sale!

Why not Shooters and Fishers? Pauline's looney tunes!

At the very least chrome dome and his pal Maly. I do hope they're shown a particular finger and the door!

..." I do wish people would stop conflating a freeze with backdating".... The one is symptomatic of the other....no?

Where did you hear that rumour? Remember the backdating is only one of a number of issues not least of which is the power potato head wants to hand himself!

If citizenship applications can still be submitted they should do so without requiring immediate payment! Payment should only be required once the decision is made to proceed with the application.

It seems current applications are in for the long haul. Potato head's pride is wounded, he'll argue just for the sake of it now!

This has to do with the contempt of court case involving three govt ministers........This is due to Section 44 of the Constitution, which precludes anyone who is under sentence, or subject to be sentenced, for any offence punishable under the law of the Commonwealth or of a State by imprisonment for one year or longer from remaining as an MP. - See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/06/16/turnbull-government-ministers-to-face-court.html#sthash.xPKxtpgF.dpuf.... If they're dual nationals they better watch out....Dutton may deem them undesirable and deport them!!!

What's the bet on the proposed amendments getting referred to a parliamentary committee....any takers?

Someone earlier pointed out the irony of these proposals and the blanked inclusion of Canada as an English speaking country! These proposals would be more palatable if it at least appeared like some thought went into them....unfortunately, as is the case with politicians the world over, put your ignorance on display and hope that the majority that vote are more ignorant than you and don't notice!

It is retrospective application. Current legislation is being disregarded in anticipation of revised legislation...hence the referral to backdating!

That would be the case for most! As much of a waste of money as it would be....the testing is one thing! The power that Dutton is trying to grab for himself is another. Most of the dimwits that support these changes for whatever reason (suspect ignorance is playing a big part) don't realize there is the potential for some of his proposals to impact on them as well! The wheel will turn!

That would be the logical conclusion......when it comes to Dutton????

Same applies to the revised test questions they're making a fuss of! Anybody with half a brain will instantly recognize what the appropriate answer should be!

It's beyond funny if that turns out to be the case! It seems a real genius was at work coming up with the latest round of changes.

It seems so....only exception I'm aware is for Kiwis

Problem is they're already here if the plan is to catch them at the citizenship stage! I don't see how these changes are going to protect the country or its inhabitants. Surely if that's the intention it would make more sense to spend more time vetting PR/Student/Work Visa applications more closely? These changes make little sense unless the plan is to score some cheap points from the don't care/don't know lobby....if it seems like a good idea it must be! Most that enter the country on a skilled migration visa have to wait 4 years anyway...so no real change there (mostly impacts 457s it seems). If Dutton gets his way citizens could be deported in situations where they hold dual passports! It's a real concern when a politician lobbies for unchecked power! It's perhaps time for Dutton to move on!