Amy Zhang

I put my information on the new sheet! I will update once I get the info from DIBP.

Application submitted: 09-05-2017 Residence City: Melbourne Application type: Paper Acknowledge of receipt and application fee charged: 30-06-2017

I did paper application on 16th of May, and I got the acknowledgement of receipt on 30th June this year. I will update my status here. Hope everyone's application goes smoothly after this!

After the negotiation, what will be left? What's the point to do that? To solve a problem which does not exist? Just ironic. Waste our time, and up to now, still all the application after 20th April are blocked. How stupid he is!

Hope we can get some results today! finger crossed.

Totally agree! Why could not they make more exemptions?

Could you please give me the link? Thanks

I think it is good to increase the English requirement. However, the standard is too high. In this country, even the local people, I do not think they can get the average of 6/9 in each skill when they undertake IELTS. The language hurdle is too high for the migrants, and it is unnecessary. Again, for the skill migrants, if we have already passed the skill assessment which includes the language requirement, why should we do this again? I just want them to think the things comprehensively and take this into consideration when they do the exemption of English test. That's it! I do not want to mention the other parts at all again! We just need to wait, wait and wait! Australian value? !

Thank you so much for your explanation. I think you are right. Well, let's just see how they explicitly explain the "exemption" part. I want to mention when I apply for the PR under the subclass 885 (skilled migration), I have done the skill assessment, which has already included the English requirement. If they ask me to do the test again, for me just like I pay the money to prove my skills again, which is annoying.

Probably there will be more specific explanation on next Tuesday, we have to wait!

Please see the following link: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=BillId_Phrase%3A"r5914" Dataset%3Ahansardr,hansards Title%3A"second reading";rec=0

I am confused about the last sentence. "applicants who have undertaken specified English language studies at a recognised Australian education institution." What does that mean? May I assume that people who have undertaken tertiary education regardless majors in Australia can be exempted from English testing as long as the medium is English? Or actually it means you should have learned the course 'English language study"?

I saw the amendment as below: Aspiring citizens are currently required to possess a level of 'basic' English. This is indirectly assessed when an applicant sits the citizenship test. Aspiring citizens will now be required to undertake a separate up-front English language test with an accredited provider and achieve a level of 'competent'. There will be exemptions, such as for applicants over 60 years of age or under 16 years of age at the time they applied for citizenship or those with an enduring or permanent mental or physical incapacity. There will be other exemptions from testing, as is currently the case for skilled migration assessments, such as for citizens of the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland, Canada, the United States of America or New Zealand who hold a valid passport or for applicants who have undertaken specified English language studies at a recognised Australian education institution.

Well, interesting! What exceptions will the Australian government make especially re the English requirement? If they ask us to take IELTS again, it's just like no point for me. I took the IELTS test 7 years ago when I did the Master degree here. The language hurdle for my major is 7 overall. Now, if it asks me to do the test again, what do they want me to prove? After 7 years, my English is getting worse? I really do not see the necessity except taking $300 from my pocket! Again, why does the government think the potential terrorists could not have excellent English? Why do they think the English requirement could be a good hurdle for protect Australia from potential terrorists?

Well, let's just wait and see. Hopefully next week we can get more clear idea.

Thank you for sharing the view. It's true. I am just wondering whether we can get more information re new citizenship legislation this week or not?

Thanks for sharing the link! Hopefully we can get more detailed information this week, and again, hope the stupid new citizenship policy will not pass!

The most ironic and ridiculous part is "let's vote the legislation that hasn't been seen yet!" Just wait and see the final result!

The essay at least reflects most of the people's attitude on this stupid new citizenship policy.

Dear， what I say is sarcastic! Of course, they should not cut that much, and let us just hang in there!

No wonder they cut that huge number of staff. What can they do at this stage? nothing! Why can they get paid just sitting in the office and doing nothing. DIBP can hire people later if they need. Again, the ridiculous back dating stuff.

That's really a good idea. Any one here has some resources of migration agents?

Nothing! Very disappointing. I have submitted my view on the new proposal. We still have one week to express our point view and email to citizenship.submissions@border.gov.au

It's true. However, the staff in DIBP assume that they will have no law to follow at this stage for the applications lodged on or after 20th, April. The only thing they can do is waiting, although it shows the Citizenship Act 2007 is CURRENTLY IN FORCE. How stupid it is! They also tried to convince us to wait for at least 6 months, since on the DIBP website, it says all the detailed information will be released at the end of this year. "The Government will introduce new citizenship related legislation into the Parliament, informed by responses to this paper, by the end of 2017."

If we accept the retrospective issue, it means that accept everything. The department has the excuse not to deal with the applications on or after 20th, April. They will say they need to redo the applications anyway if the new legislation will be approved and enacted from 20th, April, why bother to do them right now? They use this excuse to freeze our applications. This is the thing I reckon very stupid. Why the prime minister made the announcement so quickly and all the detailed information is not ready. That's ridiculous. The staff in such department may just sit on their hand for another 6 months.