Thanku so much you don't know how helpful that info is, to be honest we have a 5 yr plan, we can't relocate until my partners daughter is 18 there's no way her mother would give consent to her leaving the country, even tho she resides with her father, so this gives us time to save our money, plan everything as much as we can, my partner is a flux core coded welder and we have searched jobs over there realised how much wrk is available and rates of pay etc , I'm an experienced hairdresser with beauty therapist qualifications, we want a better life for our family unfortunately the future looks bleak here in England, and I'm very impressed with courses available over there for the kids, I don't think my son would have problems settling in life over there as he is a very outdoors person and makes friends easily, we live in an area which basically you learn from a young age to look after yourself (not saying it's a bad place at all just more down to earth in the north east of England) always been a working class area, we live on the coast a small fishing and mining village, so any info at all is cert a bonus to me :wink: