David Ng

I applied for Citizenship on 23/12/2019 in Melbourne, Casey Council. Me, my 7yo son and my wife. Wife received test appointment in May but was cancelled due to the Pandemic.

Haven't heard back since then...

No movement on my application neither...

35 minutes ago, Raul Senise said:

I find it incredible that anyone would try to find the answers to a complex matter by searching a forum post from over 6 years ago. 

Regulations change regularly, what applied years ago (even months ago) is likely no longer relevant.

Just because someone had a similar situation, does not mean the same rules will apply to your situation.

Have a look at the Sponsored section of the forum and you will see that the threads for failed 186 and 187 applications are the longest of any on this forum.

 

I'm the op of this topic (I don't use the other account anymore)

I completely agreed with the above comment from @Raul Senise

It's been 6 years since I applied for my 186 and things have changed alot. Whatever applied 6, years ago could have been changed completely. For instance, I was on 457 when I arrived to Australia 6 years ago and applied for 186 visa 3 months after I landed. But 457 was no more for a couple years already...

Sorry, I didn't know that the the question has been changed to 

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Date the applicant's first Australian visa was granted (if known)

Was the applicant in Australia at the time this visa was granted?

 

Was the applicant in Australia at the time this visa was granted?
 

Date the applicant first arrived in Australia on that visa (if known)

So it's clear now. They are asking for my first ever Australian Visa details !

Hi guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me with this question. Much appreciate!

I visited Australia for a business trip early in 2012, for 2 months. Then I came back to my home country for nearly 2 years before I've got an offer to move to Australia permanently in 2014. I'm wondering should I put the date of my brief travel to Australia in 2012, or should I put the date of my later journey as first arrival date?

Thank you very much!

2 hours ago, Raul Senise said:

You need to be careful as your have an obligation to remain with your employer for 2 years. Make sure that your leave due to illness is noted and documented on your staff file.

This is not correct. The subclass 187 has a condition to remain with the employer for two years. The visa can be cancelled if this obligation is not met.

Your comment differed vastly from what I have been collected and experienced so far, but it looked like you were correct. Below are 2 sentences extracted from https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/187-#tab-content-2, under Obligations.

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We might also seek to cancel this visa if you begin employment but do not remain in the position for the full two years.

If this happens, you will have a chance to explain, in writing, why your visa should not be cancelled.

You will get into situations which you'll need to justify your leave when your employer fires complaints with DIBP, I don't think DIBP has enough resources to check up you and your employer periodically for 2 years after you've got your Visa...

[Disclaimer] Don't get this as an official answer.

I believe you don't have to withdraw your 186.

When I applied for my 457 back in 2013, my employer's sponsorship status expired before my case was assigned a Case Officer. When I've got a CO, she just asked my employer to submit a new Sponsorship Application,and somehow she mapped that new Sponsorship application to my 457 visa. My employer's sponsorship and my 457 Visa were approved on the same day back in 2013. I applied for 186 Direct Entry only 5 months after my 457, on the same sponsorship status.

I've got friends who have been PR for 10 years (they wanted to keep their Norway passport, and Norway wouldn't allow dual-citizenship!), and have traveled around Europe and Asia.

You will need a VISA, or an Australian Passport to enter Australia. Basically, when your PR is granted, it comes with a 5 year VISA. So, if you're still on your 5 year VISA, you don't need anything else. If your 5 year VISA expires, you will need to apply for a Resident Return VISA, which will give you another 5 years (155) or 3 months (157)

As far as I know, there is no obligation to stay with your employer for 2 years. That just a commitment (not a legal requirement). So, if your employer agrees with you on your leaving, I don't think there will be any problems.

One of my colleague left my company as soon as 2 weeks after he's got his 187 Visa...

Nah, when you lodge your 186 application, you will be able to apply for a Bridging Visa A (Google for it), which will allow you to stay in Australia until you get an outcome on your 186.

If you need to travel while waiting for 186 to be finalised, you will need to apply for Bridging Visa B

Good luck!

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