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oh and Chortlepuss that does sound like an idea altho Im still in my last year of uni havent graduated yet will need to get a bit of teaching experience up my sleeve here in aus before teaching oseas. It is a plan though further down the track for sure though

Yeh Blosum thats what we are thinking. If he has the marriage visa allowing him to stay here then he wont need to qualify for the "highly skilled" as he will be automatically living here anyway with me, so its hoped that if he completes a trade course, one year or three semesters however long it takes, then he will be able to get work in that field, because he wont be applying for the highly skilled visa and therefore having to proove that he has years of experience. I understand that for that visa u cant just do a course and then be "highly skilled" enough to enter Aus that way. We are thinking the partner visa, because we dont have enough proof for the defacto visa. We only lived together six months but both times neither of us were on the lease. Four of those months were with my brother and the other two with a friend..We also dont have joint bank accounts, utility bills etc..basically that visa is too expensive to have rejected so theres no point TRYING...the marriage/partner visa we can apply for from our own separate countries and basically as long as we commit to getting married in nine months time from when the visa is granted then we shld be sweet. The main issues for us is just that he needs to find a course that hes interested in that will then allow him to do some kind of interesting work, not mundane boring work. Hes thinking a trade of some kind but is open to suggestions. I suggested aged care to him but hes not so sure. I dont know what else he cld do...But the main thing im stressing here is, the visa issue isnt the problem provided we get the partner visa ok..the issue is whether he studies something like a a one year course in the uk BEFORE coming out (which we're hoping will be around sep/oct next year) or whether he can do a course here when he comes out that wont take too long and will enable him to get work in that field.

Thanks guys, appreciate you taking the time to reply. We are thinking we will apply for the partner(marriage)visa in conjunction with whatever trade he does. The main reason he needs a trade is he needs some kind of qualifications to enable him to get a decent paying job here in Aus. The immigrating to Australia part isnt the problem atm really, its more that once he IS granted residency on the partner visa he needs to be able to get decent paying work..It doesnt have to be a trade,but he was thinking that wld be the best way to go...Or does anybody know of any other short(no more than two years)courses he cld do either here once he gets here?Throw some ideas at me and I'll ask him if any tickle his fancy:)Hes basically looking to come over in OCTOBER next year. 18months away. Or does anyone know of any year long courses he cld do in the UK before hand which might help him get decent/interesing work here?

Sorry Im a retarded newcomer to this site

Thanks guys appreciate your replies. Im 31, have already done my uk working holiday visa stint..years ago before i met him, which sucks..Hes 32, already too old to get a second year on his Aus Working holiday visa...Im nearly finished my teaching degree here in aus but theres really no way we can stay together in the same country unless he chooses a trade in aus or we get married..the marriage option is something neither of us want to rush into, and our parents wldnt want us to either but it is def an option in addition to whatever trade he completes..the combination of the two wld ensure he has reliable work if he decided that moving to and living here is an option..I gues the stress of him not having reliable work has added to our relationship stress, thus not making it a very happy one atm due to afformentioned money/visa restrictions ...I guess what i meant when i said "guarantee work" was, is there any further study/apprentice type stuff needed on top of the actual completion of the course itself? He was looking at CABINET MAKER or PAINTING AND DECORATING, altho we are both sceptical of the last one.. Arghhh shitty situation. ​

Do many of these trade courses like the bricklaying one you mentioned Miss M x guarantee a job asap?? Anyone know? Its shite Claire that your hubby shld have to re train if he already has qualifications I wld have thought...god Australia has such shitty immig rules.

I met my English boyfriend here in Brisbane on a working holiday visa. We were together for nine months but he had to go home because there was no other way around it. He doesnt have a trade, and his degree is of no use according to him...MOTORSPORTS MANAGEMENT UK people does that mean anything to you??? He has mainly worked in Sales which is just not very reliable work. Hes back in the uk now and its really hard for both of us being a part because of immigration rules Before anyone suggests the PARTNER VISA, yes we have thought about that but marriage isnt something he or I (or our families) want to rush into.We will consider it on top of this course that hes thinking of doing, but if we are to get married we wld both prefer he has qualifications up his sleeze to guarantee work here Hes considering coming out and studying a trade at TAFE, any ideas as to what the best courses might be in terms of guaranteeing work ASAP upon completion of the course. I assume most courses are 3-4 semesters yeh? So the sooner he can get the course over ideally the sooner he wld like to be working in that field... I dont know too much about aussie trades, but maybe someone can help out?? If he comes out on a "student visa" whats the best trade he cld study to get a proper job asap??We are combining this with the partner visa btw because by then it is hoped he will be able to stay on here in Brisbane with his qualifications. So if we do get married it will be assumed that his new trade along with my, by then, degree will be able to afford such a thing as a wedding if that makes sense. ​

I met my English boyfriend here in Aus nearly a year ago. We were together for the remaining six months of his working holday visa and then were faced with the dilemma of "Six months in, where to next?" Too soon to get a partner/defacto visa but too long to bare the thought of being apart. Unfortunately his uni degree is a wishy washy one: MOTORSPORTS MANAGEMENT..UK people does that ring a bell?? Hes never worked in that field but has rather worked mostly in sales..not reliable work thats the only problem. Which is why we are faced with the dilemma of him really needing to get a trade. Its cheaper and easier than getting a whole new uni degree again, but its still a difficult decision as to what?? In order to not have to leave when his WHV ended he decided he wld "study" a course in order to get a student visa to essentially keep him in the country at least a bit longer. At that point the course he actually chose wasnt something he was interested in,it was a DIPLOMA OF BUSINESS at a random GC college and it was the cheapest easiest option, wasnt attendance based, and as I said was basically a way to keep him here. The problem was he cld only work twenty hours a week on his student visa, which caused major financial problems. Im a student myself so was in no position really(as much as I wanted to, dont get me wrong)help him out financially. He was already not making much money in sales hence he decided on the cheaper study option, but it wasnt the best move... In the end, the fights got nasty, the money stress the living together and me having to on occasions help him out with rent in order to keep our other housemate(who was on the lease) happy became too much and we decided, well I put my foot down in the form of tough love, that he shld really go home and save up some cash to do a course he really actually wants to do, and isnt just doing for the sake of being in aus FOR ME. I need your help here, hes back home now in Liverpool UK, and we are miserable. I miss him terribly but I know that the conditions werent great. If we were without stupid visa rules restricting the work hours and duration of time allowed to work we'd be a good couple. The plan is hes going to use the next 18months to save up as much cash as he can and come back around october nxt year and start a course here. The problem he had last time was he didnt have the $ to do a course of interest because theyre expensive. This time if he can spend 18mnths living at home in the uk saving he can come back and start a course of interest. Hes thinking some kind of trade...Does anyone have any ideas of what kind trade courses on offer in Brisbane are the best in terms of guaranteeing work straight away upon course completion?? Sorry for my long post, Ive put a lot of you off answering now for those who do help me out...THANKYOU ​

Hi my (English)boyfriend's working holiday visa is due to end in December. Hes applying to study here in Feb on a student visa, however between his working visa ending and him starting the course(approx 2 months) he is not allowed to work. Does anyone know if there are many cash in hand bar jobs or any kind of semi decent paying jobs in Syd or Melb?We are in Brisbane, but Ive been told Melb is the best place for cash in hand work - I guess due to the large ammount of bars/cafes there. Its a bit hard here, I dont know of many. Hes willing to go to Syd or Melb for a couple of months to work. Or does anyone have any ideas as to what kind of cash in hand work he might be able to do for those 2 months - labouring even?

oh I just realised I prob didnt answer your question properly :hang on attempt#2...Is the cohabiting visa the same as the de facto visa? It seems that is the hardest via to get, theres so much paperwork/evidence needed and if u dont live together Id say itd be too hard for u to get. From what Ive heard you cant come in to aus on a fiance visa and change to the de facto visa, once u have your fiance visa u have to commit to getting married within 9 months..so in a way they're kind of letting u off for not having proof that ur a couple(as in names on a lease, joing bank acc's etc)but theyre saying you can come into the country and live/work but you must commit to getting married in 9months time....I guess 9months is bette than saying 'you must get married NOW' but still it is kind of rushing things a bit..but the fiance visa is what we are looking at..Id look into the highly skilled visa situation tho..sorry for my big rant

Hi Liam..it seems as though you could qualify for a highly skilled visa, as carpenters are on the list of skills shortages in Australia..this would mean you wouldnt have to commit to getting married within the 9months of when your fiance visa is granted.I see that u mentioned you dont really want to do carpentry, but it seems like it cld be the easiest way to get back into aus, what if you just did it for a year or so,then when the time is right u cld apply for a fiance visa and then once thats granted do whatever work u wanted My English partner and I are in a similar position, but onfortunately he doesnt have a trade up his sleeve like you do so for us it really only leaves the option of a fiance visa coz we dont have enough evidence of being in a de facto r'ship having only lived together for 3 months.His working holiday visa is up in dec so even by then we wont be able to apply for a de facto visa..urgh

Thanks can1983 for your advice :)again very appreciative of people like you who take the time to offer some kind of advice/support even if you're not entirely sure...yes as we are a pair of old farts the NZ visa isnt going to be able to happen for him unfortunately..and Queensland is one of the states that DOESNT register r'ships ....the student visa option is prob the most realistic..while it is exy, it just gives him that much more time to be able to be legally living/working here which means more time for us to be on a lease/joint bank accs/bills etc together...$5k a SEMESTER + the visa fee alone is ridiculous though..thats $5k for a semester! times that by 4 and one of us is gona have to be selling their ass on a street corner in order to fund it sorry had to make an inappropriate joke there...so basically to get a De facto visa next year is gona cost us - $5000 +$500 +3000 ...would LOVE to win the lotto right now

Thanks so much for your help guys, appreciate the time and effort :)yes Blossum of course 'getting knocked up' wouldnt help I was only joking,god thats the last thing I want at this point I have trouble supporting myself..which brings me to answer some of your questions. No Im not really in a financial position to support my boyfriend at the moment, Im 18 months away from finishing my teaching degree, which means at the moment I have a hard enough time paying my own rent, living etc..this is also why Im not really able to look at or even afford going to the UK at the moment. Ive used up my working holiday visa there anyway so I cant see how I would be able to go back and live/work...if I was to go on to do my post grad and then my masters I could apply to work there as a teacher, but we're talking about 3-4 years time along with LOADS of study in the meantime Kimsdu no unfortunately my boyf wasnt able to get a second year on his Working holiday visa, i think due to age restrictions, I forget,we met shortly before he turned 31 which i think was the cut off age, but yeh that would have made life SOOO much easier .....Thanks again Blossum for your advice,Im aware of the student visa option but $5000 per semester plus $500 for a student visa alone is so expensive...then again I guess every option is going to be expensive ...I guess yeh the joint bank acc idea could happen at least while he's still legally able to work here, but the rest of it is going to be so hard to prove...thanks LittleSarah for your advice re seeing a registered migration agent, I will do that Its doing my head in reading through hundreds of threads on various website forums re this same issue, everyone is offering dif advice...all this worrying and stress is stopping me from doing my uni work ..........one idea is what if he goes back to the uk when his visa ends, for say a few months, so he can work(legally) there and save up some $$ to come back out on a student visa and study...that would stop us from having to come up with the $5000+ within the next 2 months....I guess that wld involve time apart, but when he comes back as a student that would be for long enough to enable us to apply for a de facto visa then hopefully..arghh so stressful

I wish there was! My boyfriend of 8months is in your position..trying to find a way he can stay since we dont have enough paper work to prove to immigration that we are genuine 8 months of being with someone is long enough to have your heart broken if things dont work out visa-wise and he has to go home but not long enough to prove anything to immigration it really sucks, if you find a way JSO please let me and my partner know!

Im in a very similar position here, which is why this thread stood out to me...Im Aussie but My English boyfriend's working holiday visa expires in December, which leaves us not knowing what to do..we have no proof that we have been together..I mean yeh photos and facebook msgs, but nothing really to satisy immigration....thank you for posting this thread and thanks everyone who replied..it seems crazy that MARRIAGE is really the only option here...we have been together 8 months and live together as of 2 months ago, however arent on the lease (should we quickly sign it now??)its an on going lease under my brothers name, we just pay rent to him..yeh 2 months doesnt satisfy immigration I know sorry to post this as a 'reply', I guess I just want you to know that Im also in a similar position and this forum is a great way to seek advice/opinions.