CROWDED HOUSE
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Yes thats evidence of a Trade licence or registration to a trade authority
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At the bottom of the form it says you can supply a reference from an employer no more than 2 years old. that will give you another 35 points. Im also supplying my Part P and approved licence from the NICEIC as i have been self employed and are still registered to them. You can do that your self if your self employed and registered. Regards
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Heres what you can do: Book yourself on a course with PEER training (www.peer.com.au) and buy yourself the following books. http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script/Details.asp?DocN=AS678036347050 http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script/Details.asp?DocN=stds000017409 http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script/Details.asp?DocN=AS12820832AASS http://www.saiglobal.com/shop/Script/Details.asp?DocN=AS778112015227 (Note: If you keep your receipts for the books and the course, you can claim them back against your taxable income providing you claim them in the same tax year as you buy them) At Peer, you will be given a booklet to fill in. It will ask you to find the relevant section of the wiring rules to answer the question. This book can be filled in either at the training centre or at home, so really it’s up to you how long it will take to fill in. Once you have completed this you will then be able to take your exam, which is basically the same thing – filling in the relevant regulations. It usually takes anything from 2 – 4 weeks to get to the exam stage (well they have to look as if they are at least trying ). Once you have done your exam and passed, (impossible to fail, as they will tell you to amend things if they aren’t right), you will get a certificate to say you have completed the wiring rules course. You then take this and your ARTC certificate, which should have arrived by now) to the Office of Consumer and Business Affairs (OCBA) in Adelaide CBD. You will need to also fill in this form: http://www.ocba.sa.gov.au/assets/files/form1a_pge_indiv_ptship_07web.pdf and pay the fee ($338 currently, again keep the receipt as you can claim it back ) They will send you a letter asking you to have a photo done at various places (usually transport offices), once you have done that it will take approximately 10 to 14 days to receive your licence and away you go.
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Just to add.......Im the main applicant on our visa and because of that i was forced to do the Vetasess. If you gonna do that route visit britishexpats.com and look at the page which tells you how to prepare for Vetasess theory and practical exam. http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=520432 Heres another link for the ARTC application: http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=491978 Heres the link for the Electricians forum which covers most questions people ask: http://britishexpats.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=97 If you need any more help just ask. Theres a guy called Steve`o who lives and works in the Gold coast at present. He s really helpfull and has a lot more knowledge then me. You can find him on both these sites if you look through the pages he also started the first link i ve put on about the practical and theory exam above. Without that page i would had failed my Vetasess without doubt. I took about 3 months revising before i went and found the info spot on. I sailed through both practical and theory because of that. Regards If you need anymore help just ask
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Im not saying you dont have to do the Vetasess route. Of course you can do that but its costly compared to ARTC/TRA. There is no easy way really. Most Electricians want to do the ARTC/TRA route because all you have to do is send of your Certificates with detailed work history, References, Pictures, descriptions of tools used and Installations done. If you send enough they grant you the certificate. If you dont they can do Telephone interviews and ask you to sit Practical exams. If your other half wants to do the Vetasess then he can. But you wont see much change out of £2000 where as the ARTC/TRA is around £300.00 Im heading to Perth and on my application form for the Restricted licence it clearly states that i must the Vetasess certificate (OTSR) offshore Technical Skills Record or ARTC/TRA to get the restricted licence. You cant work without these. Gap training needs to be done then at a college which takes around 3-6 months. Once that is completed and i pass the exams i can then apply for a full licence. Some are saying once you have the restricted licence getting a job is difficult because your not allowed to work on your own and you need all your work checking by A licensed Electricians. You also dont get the full pay ($2 to $5 less maybe more) until your pass your gap training and get you A licence. Does that help at all?
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Hi Yes you will need to apply to ARTC/TRA if you have your visa. Vetasess is for migration ONLY!! If your Other Half was the main applicant he would need to do Vetasess but he`s not so you will have to go the other route. If i was you and had your visa i would apply before you go out there but will need to have a friend or ozzy address to send his stuff to. Regards
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Once you get that clear to them you will get your visa. We never used an Agent my better half did it herself. We had no problems when we applied, within 2 days we got the case officer and all she wanted was meds and PCs. as soon as we got them we got the grant no questions. Tottally gob smacked! still in shock now. I ve printed the form and im gonna send it to a friend in Bayswater. Shes gonna forward it on with her address to be sent back to. Will let you know how i get on.
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Sounds good! i ve just been looking at CET ballcatta. Have a look at this link: http://www.cet.asn.au/Libraries/Course_Brochures/Electrical_Trade_Licence.sflb.ashx In the top right hand corner it says you need to apply to energy safe for permission to enrol on the course and once completed you apply back to them for your license. My intention is to get Permission now for me to do the course, book on the next available one then fly out on my own do the course (if energy safe give me the ok) get a job then fly the mrs and kids out. You got your case officer then? Wont be long for you now. Once we did meds and PCs we got the grant the next day. If you have team 4 they dont mess around. If they have not asked for anything else once you upload these bang your there. Let me know how you get on. I will keep you posted on the Energy safe app. Sending it Wednesday.
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4 years ago when i did the Vetasess route. From what i can remember the main thing they wanted to know was that you had worked in that ocupation for more than 6 years. They do want to see Training and certification but more importantly experience. I dont know if its still the same. I think you will be good to apply now. Your partner must have a number of Certificates available to send. Contact Vetasess and see what they say or look on there site to see if your eligable. I dont know if your aware of Skill select. It comes in July time. You have to be invited to apply for a visa then from employer your c.v goes on a database and employers looking for skilled labour can invite you to apply. Here s a link to general electrician application through Vetasess: http://www.vetassess.com.au/download/workassess/457%20Fact%20Sheet%20-%20Electrician%20(General).pdf
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How can you say im complaining about standards??????? What i am complaining about is the lack of information available for the correct route to gaining your A license. When i did the Vetasses in 2008, the Assesor of the practical exam even told me how much of a nightmare it was gonna be to find out what your next step is. Vetasses sent me a letter to say you will need to do gap training at a college to get your level 3 (if you went down that route). Most colleges i emailed in Queensland had never even heard of Vetasess, never mind what was to be done next for the gap training. Yes the standards are high and we obviously need to be re-trained to there regulations and way of doing things. Im happy with that and willing to do it. But There s little clarity. I have a friend who applied to energy safe who in turn told him he needed to do gap training. He went to CET to do his 2 week course. when he completed the course he asked the Lecturer about the gap training in which he replied "what gap training" 3 weeks later he got his A licence from the very same place that told him he would need to do gap training???!! maybe you can tell us what you had to do and then i can add a like to the few you have.
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will you be applying through Vetasses? You shouldnt have a problem as long as you can prove your six year work history with references etc The ultimate test will be getting through there paper assesment and then the practical. Once you have these and apply for the visa you will need to prove 8 year history for a 176 state sponsered visa.
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Hi Pal Dont quote me on this but i ve heard recently that you can apply to energy safe from the uk. They send you the acceptance letter. you then have a restricted license and have to do a log book which gets signed of by an A grade electrician while you do different types of work. Once the log book is done you can then progress to do the gap training at one of the colleges such as CET then once you succesfully pass that you can apply for your A license. this process can take between 6months to a year??? very strange process.... The other process i ve heard is that you apply to energy safe and receive your acceptance letter, go straight to the two week course at CET or other college then when passed you get your a license in a few weeks???? Dont really know whats going of mate. Theres so many conflicting storys on it that im affraid you probably wont find out until we start the process over there mate. When its all done and we have our A grades we can meet up get very drunk and laugh at all the bull **** we have had to go through to get out there and start bloody work!!! If anyone who know s the process can clarify on here how it actually is, I would be bloody dam grateful. Me heads a shed!!:wacko:
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Thanks for that. Yes fingers crossed. Good luck with your application
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What's the snp? Thanks
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Would I be right in saying we are back on the list and can now apply in July? The good news we have all been waiting for...
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Thanks for that. Keep me posted
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Anyone no what's happening regards electricians and the csl. I ve just seen something on immi.gov about temperary suspension. Is this good or bad? In the sun newspaper yesterday it claimed that up 75% of people are trying to quit the UK.
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Thanks Maria Fingers crossed.
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Anyone know when the New skills list is out and if us sparks are looking like being on it? Cheers
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Hope i dont put you off?!! Have a look at Vetasses website yourself www.vetassess.com.au here s a list of stuff i had to send in: Required documents for applying online To apply online, you will need the following information: Personal details Details of your general school education Details of your formal training, including apprenticeships or traineeships Details of any other training Details of licences, registration or industry membership Details and evidence of your employment history Once you’ve applied online, you’ll need to send in the following documents via mail: Application for trade skills assessment form (PDF - 165 Kb) (completed and signed) Appropriate trade evidence form (completed and signed) Identity documents 2 recent photographs – passport size, certified and dated relevant passport pages – certified copy (passport page must show name, photo and date of birth); a birth certificate should be provided if you do not hold a passport change of name evidence (if applicable) [*]Evidence of skills (see list of evidence) evidence of training evidence of employment other items of evidence to support your application [*]Certified English translation of the above documents, compiled by a registered translation service, if originally issued in a language other than English [*]Assessment fee Self-employed applicants Self-employed applicants will need to provide evidence of running their own business. Samples of evidence may include: business registration details company tax records invoices with company name supplier invoices / receipts business cards, brochures and other stationery photographs of company signs on office / vehicles etc reference from company accountant / lawyer client list. hope this helps
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Hi Meredith You husband/partner will need to prove 6 maybe 7 years experience in the trade. When you apply for VETS or TRA it tells you the mn is 6/7 years in the trade before you can apply. When you do apply you will have to throw every bit of evidence in that you can find. references from anyone you have worked for or worked with. If i was your partner i would be looking to train as a TILER?!! There in demand over there and on the list. Electricians are currently out of favour :-( all though fingers crossed this will change soon ;-/ :notworthy:
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There s 2 different ways to go about it 1 being the vets route which you have to do on arrival a years training and employment experience as a trade assistant. This route anyone from england or India must take. So we all have to do the vets like it or not! Then there's the TRA. Which is a way of getting a licence without having to do the years training on site and at college. If you have the vetassess then you already have a restricted licence. All you Need to do is use this in support to apply for sponsership from any of the states. You need a visa before you can go down the road of TRA. This is a route that I myself is trying for. As I am under 31 I can get a working holiday visa which is a suitable Visa for applying to TRA. However nothings straight forward as you will see from some of the post/questions I have asked on here. Some say this loop hole is coming to an end.
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Bazness.....Did you send and receive your application to the TRA from england? Did you also get your certs and stuff veryified by a solicitor before you sent them? Thanks again :confused:
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Bazness thanks very much. Im just compiling enough evidence together at the moment. did you supply photos of any work you carried out?