paul1977

No because we chose to live here, we can afford for me not to work, no rush hour ever! Living the dream mate, living the dream :wink: P.S. I live in Perth not Sydney or Melbourne .

on paper you might live in Perth

But legally and technically we are the outskirts of Perth Metro, so not misleading at all. 45 Minutes Drive, how far do you get driving 45 minutes out of London?

The same distance as you do in Sydney and Melbourne.....and have you seen the freeway going south at rush hour... must take 1.5 hours to drive your 45 minute trip

Does it actually matter

bit misleading saying i got a house built for 300 grand on the outskirts of perth when the OP is more than 60kms out of the cbd ...

Yes we are classed as part of Perth Metro.

Manchester is closer to Liverpool than you are to Perth, not the outskirts in my opinion

Yes North Mandurah.

out skirts of perth....?

Paul by that theory London is the only city in England?...

 

Maybe you should have done some travelling on your time away from site, May have made you less depressed.

the only global city yes

Paul by that theory London is the only city in England?...

 

Maybe you should have done some travelling on your time away from site, May have made you less depressed.

my point being somebody with London and the southeast money will buy a bigger property in Australia unless they move to Sydney or Melbourne, like i said take your money up north and see what you get. They are the only cities you could put in a bracket with london

Sold our house in the outskirts of Bristol for £163,000 built here outskirts of Perth for $306,000

Mandurah...?

Any discussion which refers to house price comparisons is always flawed. We are moving from Surrey to QLD. Can't tell you what the averages are for both but our very average 3 bed 1930s pebble-dash semi-detached house has sold for £423,000 ($846,000). We will be able to buy a much better property and still have plenty left over so UK/Oz generalisations/comparisons on properties are meaningless.

the thing is your saying your get more for your money in Queensland... you will but then your moving from the southeast where property is high to somewhere where property will generally be cheaper, you try buying something in Sydney for your money and see what you get, how much of a bigger property would you get and took your 423 grand up north...? a large period home i would guess . you can only compare house prices from London and the southeast to Melbourne and Sydney, the only 2 true cities in australia

My quoted amounts are from the two links in my post...

So you believe people in Adelaide earn 10% more than the rest of the country and people in Nottingham earn about 65% less than the rest of the country...?

Average salary in Nottingham is only 11k GBP (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-22623964) makes average house 15 times salary.

 

Average salary in Adelaide is $80k (http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=91&loctype=3) makes average house only 6.6 times salary.

 

Which would make Nottingham less affordable for housing costs...

average salary in Australia is i think 72-74 grand a year... your figures are wrong ... i think the average uk salary sits at around 25 grand... cant be bothered

Ok so experiences differ. Son in UK bar work, nice place in Nottingham. £8 per hour. son in SA $$22-25 per hour. Both casual zero hour contracts.

 

we bought VW golf new here last year, better spec and cheaper than we could have got in UK. ( I know because I went for test drives in UK and checked on prices/ deals). could be the haggle factor though, dealers here expect to bargain for custom so even with a new car I got a bit off and extras thrown in. the UK dealer would only offer floor mats and a bunch of cheap flowers!

 

i do think some things just get passed on like folk lore. Things change both here and in the UK.

 

The OP is just saying how she is finding it.

 

It is tough moving. Thanks for sharing these thoughts, it all serves to remind people that nowhere is perfect and that people's experiences are very different.

 

Marisa please do come back and let us know how you are getting on once you have had time to really settle in.

average house price in Adelaide $532000 ( 266000 pounds)..average house price in Nottingham is 146000 pounds.. you need to earn more in Australia to service big mortgages... always seems to get forgotten does your biggest purchase and biggest monthly bill

How do the costs compare with the wages? I am reading all of the replies, as a serious return is on the cards for us, but as a teacher and electrician the wage difference between countries is pretty huge. The arguments over living costs is a major issue for us, so this is a very interesting point.

In most cases the cost in housing is also huge unless your London and the south east based

I wish I lived in the part of the UK where you can buy chicken at £3 a kilo or a steak for £6! The price of a lot of things depends on what quality you like. Yes you can eat out on a budget if you like cheap pub grub..pie & chips(frozen), scampi & chips, lasagne etc and pay less than a tenner, but if you don't want typical pub grub...which to be fair..a lot of pubs do, then you'll pay for it. Average around £13 to £18 for main, £15 for a bottle of wine and this isn't including starters..average £5 to £6 and desert...same again. There are cheap places to eat but they're cheap for a reason. Clothing is cheap if you like to shop at primark, matalan, asda and the like but if you don't...you'll pay for it.

 

I work in retail and our average price for a skirt/top is around £40ish, dress £55 and men's shirts £50, so comparible to prices in say Country Road in Oz. Imo the quality is worse here for the price and I find this a lot with clothing in the UK unless you pay a lot more. Retail in the UK is suffering and has been for quite a while now. Obviously the weather hasn't helped trade right now. People just don't to seem to be spending and as a lot of shops are offering discounts left right and centre, people don't want to pay full price. They'll wait for sales or the chance a discount may arise...human nature, but unfortunately it effects trade and the knock on effect is reduced hours for staff and job losses. I don't believe the day to day living costs are much different between Oz and UK when you weigh it all up.

 

One of the things I see crop up a lot is how cheap it is to travel to Europe, flights for £39.99 etc. Not in my experience! If you do manage to get a great deal it usually involves travelling at night, arriving late at night and leaving in the middle of the night to come home. This may be ok if you're retired or not having to worry about work and can afford to spend £600 plus on a couple of nights away.

 

Lets be realistic about prices in the UK, it's cheap if you like cheap...but you'll pay for quality...simple.

I'll be going to billings gate fish market and Smithfield meat market... Problem solved

I have looked a lot at the prices and taken into the consideration that Oz has a more equal pay so couples earn more - Oz means my wife and I are far better off. we have another £100 or $200 a week better off. The average salary in the UK is £26000 ($52000) in Oz its around £37500 ($75000) - So yes things cost more in Oz but the average salary is so much more.

 

But moving to Oz is not just about money for us! Waking up 5 minutes walk from a uncrowded beach with sunny weather for 90% of the year is a massive factor!

Have you brought a house

That cafe is up the road from me

 

I didn't have to dig anything

 

I only comment on where I live and know

And you forgot to say the cafes stuck between Gold Coast and Brisbane on a freeway.. So not family friendly or easy to get to, paper and crack comes to mind ..

Been chugging down the 5 pound beers in London today.... #sobstory

Not from Australia no

Hope you enjoy your sub 400k house in Tunbridge wells Paul

Royal Tunbridge Wells please

If that was cooked to perfection you'd have come back with a negative

 

That picture comes from there own facebook page

 

Your in the UK I believe or maybe not

 

You wouldn't get a burn't brekkie there would you for $4.90 which is 2.50 pounds ish

Advertising Or cooking isn't their strong point then..???

I don't eat bacon anymore but that's the way I would have it because I don't like it when it's barely cooked. Everything else looks okay to me. One minute you're moaning things are too expensive and then the next you're making condescending comments to people for going to a Thai place and another for their cheap breakfast. Kinda makes me think you wouldn't have anything positive to say no matter what

Thing is people paper over the cracks to try and paint a Rosie picture.. People desperately digging up the odd place here and there which are cheaper than the rest, this I can fully assure you doesn't represent the true cost of Australia.. be prepared to pay way higher prices than expected or be willing to travel to these so called cheaper places which I can fully assure you will be either A , in a place which is way out of the CBD or B in a less disirabl area . Good luck on your travels

Some people can only come back with a negative

 

Get over it

 

If you call that burn't you should see my wifes cooking

I wouldn't be seeing it.. The bin would ..!!!

Oh what a surprise.. You have to pick fault with that too

You telling me that's not burnt ..?!

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Said cafe and you see the price $4.90

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Said breakfast above

 

I don't tell lies only the truth

Don't you mean you can get a burnt breakfast for $5

Them's the killer. Hardly unique to Perth and WA though.

It is swings n roundabouts..

 

but having just returned a few days ago from the UK...no way is it cheaper overall.

 

some things are, some things aren't. Supermarkets have a better choice, but not cheaper. Except their cafes, cheap food.

 

i looked at new cars on the forecourts ....not cheaper.

 

Went for lunch one day at my local weatherspoons, yes it was under £6 for a meal and drink....but it was nothing more than a mulched up microwave meal.

 

One night out with friends, at a lovely old traditional pub, four drinks £11.20....that was great, but even my friends said that was mega cheap, think we just picked a good pub:yes:

 

We don't earn anymore here in Aus than we did in the UK, so I find it much the sameness. Both places are too expensive for the average joe..

How about the astronomical house prices people pay in Perth...? Apart from the south east I bet people are paying double what that pay elsewhere .. Bye bye the extra money people earn, unless you want to live 73638384738738 kms out of the CBD