Racmac Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I am just starting the process of having my skills assessed. I am a family solicitor, I qualified 11 years ago and am completing the application form. I didn't study some of the prescribed subjects at degree level, I either studied them at LPC or actually use those skills during my work. I am currently completing the application and have obtained a transcript of the results along with the module information. The subjects that I am unable to do this for - how much detail do I provide?is it enough to say I studied at post grad and give brief details of work experience or do I put specific examples in? I think from my understanding I will have to study administrative law and then on the practical side the trusts and PR. any information anyone can me will be very much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Apply and you will find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killara Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 For the academic subjects, studying them at LPC or using the skills in practise is usually not sufficient - an applicant is usually required to have completed the academic subject as part of their undergraduate degree. In addition to administrative law, you will be required to do Australian Constitutional Law as presumably you have not done Australian Constitutional Law, and Legal Ethics if you did not do that as part of your undergraduate degree (doing it in LPC does not count - but they may give you an exemption for this based on the fact that you will be considered to be an experienced practitioner - being more than 7 years in practice.. so you or may not have to do Legal Ethics as an academic subject). You may also be required to do Property Law, even if you have passed that in your undergraduate degree, as they may not consider the course which you completed to be equivalent to the Australian course. For the PLT, you are correct - I would expect that you will be required to do Trust & Office Accounting, and Professional Responsibility, and I think that it would be realistic for you to be hopeful that you will be granted an exemption for the remaining PLT subjects. I am just starting the process of having my skills assessed. I am a family solicitor, I qualified 11 years ago and am completing the application form. I didn't study some of the prescribed subjects at degree level, I either studied them at LPC or actually use those skills during my work. I am currently completing the application and have obtained a transcript of the results along with the module information. The subjects that I am unable to do this for - how much detail do I provide?is it enough to say I studied at post grad and give brief details of work experience or do I put specific examples in? I think from my understanding I will have to study administrative law and then on the practical side the trusts and PR. any information anyone can me will be very much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racmac Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 For the academic subjects, studying them at LPC or using the skills in practise is usually not sufficient - an applicant is usually required to have completed the academic subject as part of their undergraduate degree. In addition to administrative law, you will be required to do Australian Constitutional Law as presumably you have not done Australian Constitutional Law, and Legal Ethics if you did not do that as part of your undergraduate degree (doing it in LPC does not count - but they may give you an exemption for this based on the fact that you will be considered to be an experienced practitioner - being more than 7 years in practice.. so you or may not have to do Legal Ethics as an academic subject). You may also be required to do Property Law, even if you have passed that in your undergraduate degree, as they may not consider the course which you completed to be equivalent to the Australian course. For the PLT, you are correct - I would expect that you will be required to do Trust & Office Accounting, and Professional Responsibility, and I think that it would be realistic for you to be hopeful that you will be granted an exemption for the remaining PLT subjects. Thanks that's helpful. So it looks like I will have to study administrative and constitutional as a minimum as an academic subject and then the 2 practical. and I thought I'd done all my studying! do you know how much detail they require in my application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peachy Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Put in as much detail as possible. I followed the info from the uniform principles (or the doc with all the subjects set out)and evidenced each point - takes ages. Definitely err on the side of more info. If you are asking for exemption as a specialist practitioner obtain a reference from your current employer. I couldn't supply this as I couldn't tell my manager that I was applying. I was informed that this was why I didn't get the exemption, but I can now reapply now I have left work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racmac Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Update for anyone that might be interested. this morning I received my assessment certificate and I have to study the following: constitutional law trust and office accounting ethics and professional responsibility so now in process of finding out where can study but take exams in UK and costs etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveaustralia Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Hi I would be really grateful for some assistance. I have been a qualified Solicitor for 15 years and also want to apply for exemption based on experience. Please can you provide some guidance as to the type of information you included in your Application. Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperormoose Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Update for anyone that might be interested. this morning I received my assessment certificate and I have to study the following: constitutional law trust and office accounting ethics and professional responsibility so now in process of finding out where can study but take exams in UK and costs etc Any joy in finding out where you can study the subjects and do exams in UK etc? I've recently heard I have 6 subjects to take, would have rather had less, but it doesn't seem entirely obvious where I can do the required studying while still living in the UK! So anyone who's been in this position and is able to help, I'd love to hear from you! I need to do the study for the NSW LPAB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racmac Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Any joy in finding out where you can study the subjects and do exams in UK etc? I've recently heard I have 6 subjects to take, would have rather had less, but it doesn't seem entirely obvious where I can do the required studying while still living in the UK! So anyone who's been in this position and is able to help, I'd love to hear from you! I need to do the study for the NSW LPAB. I applied to be assessed in Western Australia and with my assessment certificate they sent me a list of unis in WA. However only one of them - Edith Cowan university accepts online students. They specify that you take the exam at somewhere in London called m2m. The problem for me is that constitutional law that I have to study is 2 units and will be a total cost of $6300 plus exams. I also live 3 hours from London and would have to do 2 exams i therefore contacted UNiversity of New England and they do constitutional law as one unit at a cost of $2487 and it appears that I can take exams at any uni in UK I want to, if I can get them to agree. i therefore have to go back to WA legal practice board and ask for permission to take the exam at UNE instead! Fingers crossed. i have just applied to college of law for the practical training side, I can study online and I'm trying to find somewhere to take the two exams. why 6 subject subjects? How long have you been practicing? Did you provide them with references? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adaminoz Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I admire your dedication to make the move Racmac...you must be pretty keen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperormoose Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I applied to be assessed in Western Australia and with my assessment certificate they sent me a list of unis in WA. However only one of them - Edith Cowan university accepts online students. They specify that you take the exam at somewhere in London called m2m. The problem for me is that constitutional law that I have to study is 2 units and will be a total cost of $6300 plus exams. I also live 3 hours from London and would have to do 2 exams i therefore contacted UNiversity of New England and they do constitutional law as one unit at a cost of $2487 and it appears that I can take exams at any uni in UK I want to, if I can get them to agree. i therefore have to go back to WA legal practice board and ask for permission to take the exam at UNE instead! Fingers crossed. i have just applied to college of law for the practical training side, I can study online and I'm trying to find somewhere to take the two exams. why 6 subject subjects? How long have you been practicing? Did you provide them with references? I've been in practice for 12 years now, I understand the NSW entry requirements don't consider any subjects covered in the English LPC, whereas it seems WA does. I think this is why I've ended up with 6 subjects to study. Problem now is establishing what institutions provide the required subjects on a distance learning basis and are accredited by the NSW LPAB. And then it will probably cost a small fortune! They don't like making it easy!! Good luck with your studies, keep this thread updated if you don't mind. I'd be interested to hear how you're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racmac Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 I've been in practice for 12 years now, I understand the NSW entry requirements don't consider any subjects covered in the English LPC, whereas it seems WA does. I think this is why I've ended up with 6 subjects to study. Problem now is establishing what institutions provide the required subjects on a distance learning basis and are accredited by the NSW LPAB. And then it will probably cost a small fortune! They don't like making it easy!! Good luck with your studies, keep this thread updated if you don't mind. I'd be interested to hear how you're doing. They are all supposed to follow the uniform principles - it should be irrelevant which state it is. How much detail did you put in your application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperormoose Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 They are all supposed to follow the uniform principles - it should be irrelevant which state it is. How much detail did you put in your application? It seems to have changed for NSW and VIC as of 1st July 2015. The application form was fairly basic, but my CV and cover letter tried to get across experience levels etc. To be fair to them, with the exception of Legal Ethics, I can see why they wish for me to do the other subjects. I'd have thought 12 years of practice would be a good indication that I'm not too unethical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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