Guest daveuwe Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hi all, I was hoping for some advice, I am currently on my first year WHV, which was activated 27th April 2011. During that time I had to return to the UK as my father became very ill, so I have yet to even start my 88 days specified work in regional Australia. I return to Oz on 11th Jan, and will need to find suitable work to extend my visa. How remote are my chances of suceeding, and being able to secure my 2nd WHV? I would be in the country for 111 days, and would need to work 88 of those. I am however willing to travel any where in Queensland, or NSW, and have both farm and fruit picking experience. Are there any agencies that you would recommend that might help secure 3 months specified work? Also, can someone please clarify what documents are needed to secure the 2nd year visa? I have heard that you need to provide evidence of living in regional Oz by providing bank statements of transactions along with employer references, payslips etc...is this true? Many thanks in advance for your help, it would be greatly appreciated! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Pom Queen Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi Dave I would recommend going with WWOOF but just check the work is covered under the guidelines for the 2nd WHV, take a look here This is what it says on the Immi website Specified work* is work that is undertaken in a 'specified' field or industry in a designated regional area. See: Regional Australia Postcode List * Work that is eligible for a second Working Holiday visa was changed on 1 July 2008. Eligible work is now referred to as 'specified work' not 'seasonal work'. The specified work definition below applies to: visa applications lodged on or after 1 July 2008 and work undertaken at any time while holding a first Working Holiday visa. If you were refused a second Working Holiday visa for not meeting the seasonal work requirement, but now meet the specified work requirement you may be able to apply again. However, you would need to pay another visa application charge. See: Working Holiday and Work and Holiday Visas Definition of specified work Specified work is any type of work described in the list below: plant and animal cultivation cultivating or propagating plants, fungi or their products or parts general maintenance crop work harvesting and/or packing fruit and vegetable crops immediate processing of animal products including shearing, butchery in an abattoir, packing and tanning Note: Secondary processing of animal products, such as small goods processing and retail butchery is not eligible immediate processing of plant products maintaining animals for the purpose of selling them or their bodily produce, including natural increase manufacturing dairy produce from raw material pruning and trimming vines and trees. [*] fishing and pearling conducting operations relating directly to taking or catching fish and other aquatic species conducting operations relating directly to taking or culturing pearls or pearl shell. [*] tree farming and felling felling trees in a plantation or forest planting or tending trees in a plantation or forest that are intended to be felled transporting trees or parts of trees that were felled in a plantation or forest to the place where they are first to be milled or processed or from which they are to be transported to the place where they are to be milled or processed. [*] mining coal mining oil and gas extraction metal ore mining non-metallic mineral mining and quarrying exploration and other mining support services not including secondary activities such as book-keeping, catering and transport. [*] construction building construction heavy and civil engineering construction construction services including metal wall cladding fixing to buildings, petrol bowser installation, sand blasting or steam cleaning of building exteriors, scaffolding construction, waterproofing of building. Work undertaken in the areas of plant and animal cultivation, fishing and pearling, and tree farming and felling must be described in the list above to meet the specified work requirement. The Australian New Zealand Standard Industrial Classification (ANZSIC) provides further detail about eligible work in mining and construction. Work undertaken in the mining and construction sectors must appear in the ANZSIC division for these sectors to meet the specified work requirement. See: ANZSIC - Mining Division ANZSIC - Construction Division Supporting work, such as book-keeping, in any industry described in the list above does not meet the definition of specified work. Specified work: does not need to be paid work Example: Work undertaken as a volunteer or through the Willing Workers on Organic Farms (WWOOF) scheme may qualify if the work falls within the specified work definition listed above. does not need to be undertaken as a direct employee Example: Work undertaken as a contractor is eligible if it falls within the specified work definition listed above. must be described in the list above Examples of eligible specified work: picking fruits on a farm or orchard feeding and herding cattle which are kept for commercial purposes constructing a house extracting ore on a mine site. Examples of ineligible specified work: working at a cellar door providing wine tastings undertaking an archaeological survey working as a caterer or cook on a mine site working as an architect or town planner working as a cook or cleaner while volunteering through the WWOOF scheme helping to construct ships or boats. Specified work in disaster affected areas Construction work can be vital in helping regional disaster zones, such as those affected by flood or bushfire, to rebuild and recover from disaster. Working Holiday visa holders who conduct construction work in eligible regional areas of Australia following disasters can count the work as specified work. This work may be paid or unpaid work. Examples of construction work that qualify as specified work include: demolition of buildings, trench digging, land clearing and earth moving residential and non-residential construction or renovation/repair, including of roads, footpaths, bridges, parking lots, fencing, railways, dams, irrigation systems, sewage and storm water drainage systems. A full list of eligible construction activities is available from the Australia Bureau of Statistics website. See: Division E – Construction How to find specified work You can find specified work vacancies in the same way as you would find other job vacancies, such as through employment pages in newspapers, the Internet and job placement service providers. Vacancies specifically for plant and animal cultivation can be found on the Harvest Trail website. Note: Not all vacancies advertised on the Harvest Trail website will qualify you for a second Working Holiday visa. See: Harvest Trail You should ensure that the vacancy meets the definition of specified work listed above and that the work will take place in an eligible postcode of regional Australia. See: Regional Australia How to calculate specified work 'Three months' means three 'calendar' months or 88 days. Work can be: in one block with one business or in separate blocks with one business or a number of businesses. Blocks of work may be in different kinds of specified work. One full day of work is defined as having worked a minimum number of standard hours for a particular industry. You cannot count a long day of work as more than one day of specified work. For example, if your industry’s standard day is six hours long, working a twelve hour day does not count as two days of specified work. Full time workers may include weekends in calculating the number of days worked. Applicants who work part time or on a casual basis can only count the full days actually worked. The shortest period that can be counted is one day of full time work (for any given industry). Full time workers can count sick days only during periods where they were in paid employment and entitled to sick leave or covered by a workers compensation scheme. In these situations, supporting evidence must be provided by the employer. Applicants who were prevented from obtaining employment because of injury or seasonal circumstances cannot count any time they were unable to work towards the three month period. Example: Cyclones interrupting harvest activities. Some possible examples to help clarify the definition of three months of specified work are outlined below. Examples of three months Examples that meet the three month requirement Working week You work on a farm for three months for five days each week, where the farmer considers five days a week to be full time work. Shift work You are employed as a miner for three months and under the employment contract you are only required to work every second week, which is the standard full time contract for the industry. Blocks of work You complete 60 days of harvest work, followed by a period of travel for two months. Then you complete another 28 days in construction, bringing the total days worked to 88 days. Sick days You are employed for a three month period but take several days of sick leave during the period. Examples that do not meet the three month requirement Working week Four days a week is considered full time work by the farm, but you only work three days a week for three months. Work done on another visa type You complete three months of specified work during your summer break while on a Student visa. Seasonal circumstances You pick bananas for 80 days on a casual basis, but cannot find more work as there is a cyclone and your first Working Holiday visa ceases. Evidence of specified work If you apply for a second Working Holiday visa, you will need to provide evidence that you have satisfied the specified work eligibility requirement. Acceptable evidence of specified work (completed while on your first Working Holiday visa) includes original or certified copies of the following: payslips group certificates payment summaries tax returns employer references a completed employment verification form signed by your employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louise28 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi Dave ive recently completed my 3 months regional work and been granted my 2nd visa. I worked on an independent family farm. No ties to any dodgy hostels etc. They are based in emerald and always looking for workers.great environment and people. You get paid hourly just under 20 bucks an hour.. And can pull in a grand a week at times. They called me today to see if i wanted to go back.. Which i would love to but i am now in a new relationship with someone so staying put for now. They are called 2ph farms. Based in emerald and you can find them online. Season is just starting and runs thru to September for citrus then they start grapes. Speak to a lady called Liz and Im sure Youll get somewhere. Hope this helps. Also when you have completed they will sign a proof of work form. I applied online and needed no proof i think immigration just called the farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daveuwe Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Thank you both for your responses Loumel, I actually applied last night to 2PH based on one of your previous posts, did you have to complete the online training before starting there? Also, is there accommodation on site, or did you have to stay somewhere nearby, and if so where would you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louise28 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Hi Dave i actually got the job whilst being in emerald. The training was just watching some health and safety stuff etc. I reckon you would be best calling them. They do have accommodation.. Powered campsite. etc. I actually ended up sharing a house with 9 others i worked with.. We paid about 60 bucks a week each in a 5 bed house with pool etc.... Was alot of fun. I still have some friends working there so can always ask ywhat they are doing house wise now. Everyone is in the same boat so you are never short of help. Defo give them a call though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daveuwe Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Excellent, thanks again. I'll give them a call as soon as their office is back open, is the number listed on their website the best one to use? Wow, if you could find about from your friends, I'd really appreciate that It all sounds great, many thanks for your help so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daveuwe Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Almost forgot, one more thing...you mentioned the powered campsite, is that just for people with campervans? Or are there caravans available as well? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest daveuwe Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Quick update: I spoke with Liz at 2PH farms, and I have a provisional start date of 16th Jan in the packhouse just need to sort out travel there and everything is done! Loumel, many thanks for your help - really appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louise28 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hey Dave sorry for Delayed reply.. Had a hectic weekend.. Have just moved to gold coast so lots to sort..Grrr so pleased you have something sorted.. Did u get a spot on the camp site to start with? that's for tents vans etc.. At least you can complete your time there and not have to worry about finding different stuff to get the days done.. Ill message some friends about what they are doing.. And let you know.. You won't be alone.. Glad you are in pack house and not picking.. Good luck... Ps ill let you buy me a beer if you're ever this way!! ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louise28 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Dave have spoke to a good friend.. They have a space in their house.. 140 Bucks a week include bills.. Pretty good emerald is expensive accommodation wise.. You'd be with 5 others. Just an option if you need it.. If u do just shout and ill give u details.. You can get lifts etc with them too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lizface Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hi Dave, I've had 2PH down on a list of people I'd like to apply to for work, and I wanted to ask how you've been finding it? I'd like to start working with them about halfway through July, if that's possible. Did you find it easy to find somewhere to live while working with them? (also a side question, did you study at UWE? - because that's my university!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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