New SOL Announced

[Graemsay]

Groovy, would it be worth getting a skills assessment for software engineer carried out by the ACS? If that occupation is on the SOL or SMP lists then it might speed up the application.

 

I'm not convinced that the new ANZSCO list has made things any easier for programmers. 2231-79 (Computer professionals nec) now maps onto 261399 (Computer programmers nec), but 2231-79 was on the CSL, whereas 261399 falls into Schedule 4 making it ineligible for independent, offshore migration.

 

I personally think that they've still cut the categories a bit fine, though what is now called a Software Engineer is probably closer to a Systems Architect. So I would probably fall into either Analyst Programmer or Developer Programmer were I to apply now.

 

The other difficulty that applicants are going to face is that NSW tended to pick on specific ASCO codes, and they might just want Developer Programmers, not Analyst Programmers, making it tricky for future applicants to secure state sponsorship.

[Guest grooovy]

Hi, Graemsay!

 

Yes. It seems that I have to apply for an ACS assessment when they start accepting new applications. It's easy to expect a HUGE number of applications for the ACS next month.

 

The trickiest thing is that my ongoing application has Systems Designer ASCO code which now corresponds to Systems Analyst and Business Analyst.

 

I am wondering how this could affect my priority...

 

Cheers,

Alex

[Guest JRC]

does anyone know how many years experience is needed for the it jobs, normally acs is four years but previous asco's such as it manger was 5 and the new azco says 5 on there site.......??????

[Guest grooovy]

Hi JRC,

 

I guess we gave to wait for an official information on the ACS web site.

 

Cheers,

Alex

[Guest JRC]

I just hope a state i want to go to chooses to sponser my occupation.

 

Failing that it will be ens through whv

 

will there be a cap on state sponsered for each job?

 

is the acs turnaround about 4 weeks?

 

is everyone expecting jul 1st for state lists to be released?

[Guest jains005]

Hi George and jagkhairra,

This will blow up my head. The basic question is, what is the difference b/w the SOL announced on 8 February and the SOL announced on today?

 

was there sol amounced on 8th feb? I think on 8th it was announcement about new sol coming

[eric402]

What will happen on July 1? A new priority processing (based on the new SOL) and the SMPs will be announced?

[Guest jackd]

Hey George Thanks for the valuable information.Well i just wanted to clarify that does schedule 4 apply to International students who are on 573 subclass on 8th feb 2010? I am currently an IT student studying at Swinburne University and graduating on 3rd July.I have my Ielts score of 7 each available and i'm just confused whether to file for a 485 ot 885.

 

 

 

Hi, Pranav Rai Sood

 

I cant anwar your question. but I have question for u.

I think you have to apply before 1st july. cause IT is not in new sol.

 

My younger brother also in australia IT student, he will complete bachelore in dec. he also wana apply for 485 or 885. so can u suggest what can we do.?

 

 

Regard's

jackd.:notworthy:

[Guest rocky]

2231-79 (Computer professionals nec) now maps onto 261399 (Computer programmers nec), but 2231-79 was on the CSL, whereas 261399 falls into Schedule 4 making it ineligible for independent, offshore migration.

 

 

You are right that 2231-79 (Computer professionals nec) now maps onto 261399 (Computer programmers nec), but 2231-79 (Computer professionals nec) was not on the CSL. Only 2231-79 with a particular specialisation was on CSL. As of now there is no mapping for 2231-79 with specialisation in the list of asco-anzsco transitional arrangements. I guess ACS has to decide and come up with a new one and the DIAC may later approve of it.

[Guest rocky]

Hey George Thanks for the valuable information.Well i just wanted to clarify that does schedule 4 apply to International students who are on 573 subclass on 8th feb 2010? I am currently an IT student studying at Swinburne University and graduating on 3rd July.I have my Ielts score of 7 each available and i'm just confused whether to file for a 485 ot 885.

 

In your case, if you can get state/territory sponsorship, go for 886 and Schedule 4 will apply. If your occupation is not on Schedule 3, you cannot apply for 885. If your occupation is on Schedule 2, you can apply for 485.

[Guest dream]

Hi Gill,

I am confused regarding schedule 3 and 4. Actually, my occupation is listed in schedule 4, I am SS, medicals finalised, all docs loaded last July only. THEREFORE, DO I FALL IN PROCESSING PRIORITY 3? OR 4? Please, anybody if you know shed some light.

Thanks

 

 

The official version of the new SOL is here: http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/legislation/LegislativeInstrument1.nsf/0/DA1BE00DC2F66895CA25774A0013D89E/$file/10026LI.pdf.

 

Schedule 3 is the new SOL for overseas applicants (page 29), and Schedule 4 (page 37) is the list of occupations which may be state sponsored.

 

The table contains relevant occupations, points and assessing authorities. The column for "Country" refers to whether it's a trade assessable by Vetassess or TRA.

 

Cheers,

 

George Lombard

[Guest dream]

The above list contains all occupations as per the current SOL or Schedule 4 (whatever you want to call it). The only difference is that this list has ANZSCO codes and not ASCO codes. What Jamie has done is simply ticked off the occupations that appear in the new SOL and the rest need sponsorship either by an employee or State Sponsorship. This is for new applicants and not to those already in the system. According to DIAC, changes do no apply to those already in the system.

DEAR ALL,

IN THAT CASE WHAT ABOUT THE SS APPLICANTS WHO ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND WERE ABOUT TO BE GRANTED BEFORE 9/23 CHANGES IN 2009? PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHETHER SCHEDULE 4 LIST MEANS THE APPLICANT FALLS IN PRIORITY 3?:v_SPIN::hug::swoon:

[Ozzieland]

DEAR ALL,

IN THAT CASE WHAT ABOUT THE SS APPLICANTS WHO ARE IN THE PIPELINE AND WERE ABOUT TO BE GRANTED BEFORE 9/23 CHANGES IN 2009? PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHETHER SCHEDULE 4 LIST MEANS THE APPLICANT FALLS IN PRIORITY 3?:v_SPIN::hug::swoon:

 

Only the Government, not even DIAC can answer the first part of your question. If your occupation is on Schedule 4 but not on Schedule 3 then you are Priority Processing 4. Wait for the SMPs to be release, if your occupation is on your sponsoring State's SMP, then you could be prioritize to Priority Processing 2 !!

[Guest dream]

Hi, Thanks for but the states have sponsored people based upon the skill demand, so is it going to be wiped off once the smp comes out. Actually SS is granted based upon the states demand, in that case will the SMP make any difference. Please friend share your opinion.

thanks

Only the Government, not even DIAC can answer the first part of your question. If your occupation is on Schedule 4 but not on Schedule 3 then you are Priority Processing 4. Wait for the SMPs to be release, if your occupation is on your sponsoring State's SMP, then you could be prioritize to Priority Processing 2 !!

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Hi dream

 

I'm getting confused about your occupation. I thought you told me once that you are a Teacher. However in your earlier posts you have said that you are a Botanist, so it could well be that I am confusing you with somebody else.

 

Please confirm - have you nominated Botanist in your visa application?

 

It seems that you have secured State sponsorship? If yes, which State has sponsored you, please? The State which has sponsored you obviously has a need for Botanists or that occupation would not have been on the State's sponsorship list in the first place. Therefore the occupation might be on the SMP for the relevant State as well, might it not? If it is then you would leap-frog over Category 3 applicants and go straight from Cat 4 to Cat 2, as Ozzieland says.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest dream]

Dear Gill,

Thanks a lot, well, I am sponsored by SA as a botanist and not as a teacher. Here, I do teach Plant Biochemistry as well as a botanist, so as a botanist, i carry out laboratory work also. My point is, since my occupation 'Botanist' falls in schedule 4, and i am SS, MEDICALS FINALISED WITH 7 IN IELTs,spouses ielts 5.5, IT Professional, what is the prospect according to your good assessment. Will the SMP affect since I am already SS by SA.

Please help me clear my query. Thank you once again.

[Guest Gollywobbler]

Dear Gill,

Thanks a lot, well, I am sponsored by SA as a botanist and not as a teacher. Here, I do teach Plant Biochemistry as well as a botanist, so as a botanist, i carry out laboratory work also. My point is, since my occupation 'Botanist' falls in schedule 4, and i am SS, MEDICALS FINALISED WITH 7 IN IELTs,spouses ielts 5.5, IT Professional, what is the prospect according to your good assessment. Will the SMP affect since I am already SS by SA.

Please help me clear my query. Thank you once again.

 

Hi dream

 

Thanks for this.

 

SA does have a commercial need for Botanists, although I am not convinced that the need really has much to do with Australia's flora in every case!

 

The largest deposits of uranium which have so far been found, anywhere in the world, are under the ground in South Australia.

 

Uranium is a very valuable commodity. The idea is to dig it up, send it overland ti the commercial ports in SA and to ship it away by sea to its buyers.

 

The public are both muddled and worried. Apparently spent uranium that has been through a nuclear power station is radioactive and dangerous as a result. I gather that raw uranium, in its natural state, is inert and perfectly safe stuff. However once the Public put the Green hat on their heads, it matters little what anybody tells them because they won't listen. They are certain that the uranium is dangerous stuff and that what the scientists are trying to tell them is propaganda and probably untrue.

 

Therefore the anti-uranium lobby are convinced that the uranium will kill all the flora and fauna and the fauna includes Humans, of course. They are worried about the idea that large tracts of SA will become another Hiroshima or that the land will be contaminated in the same way as has happened since the fire at the Bhopal power station in India.

 

Botanists are needed in order to convince everybody that digging the uranium up will not kill any plant life, will not make the soil become radioactive and that it is quite safe to send "raw" uranium overland, by rail, to the commercial ports in SA.

 

There are 3 main uranium deposits, I believe. The first one is the Olympic Dam mine, out at Roxby Down, about 500kms NE of Adelaide. I believe that the uranium ore from there goes to Port Augusta. There is a plan to enlarge the Olympic Dam mine.

 

The Honeymoon mine is in the North of SA, up in the Flinders Ranges. (It is called the Honeymoon mine because it is near a place called Honeymoon Creek, from memory.) I think the Honeymoon mine has only been built and opened fairly recently and there has been a row about it. Apparently when the test drilling was done, the mining company promised that they would restore all the land that they had dug up. Allegedly they didn't bother to repair and restore the landscape but of course the beady-eyed watched the whole thing like hawks, so they made a fuss. I don't know which port the ore from there is going to.

 

I think that the third mine is the smallest of the three and that it is down near Port Pirie somewhere but I have not read anything specific about the third one.

 

The Botanists are definitely needed commercially. Part of their job will be to convince a doubtful public that they won't get some vile disease caused by radiation just because they eat the fruit and veg crops that are grown near the routes that the ore takes. Partly there is also an objective need to make sure that those crops are actually free from contamination.

 

Loads of things are also grown in the Barossa Valley besides grapes. There are several almond orchards in the Valley as well, for example - or near the Valley, anyway. I would think that the climate in SA is good for all sorts of fruit and veg crops (and the Barossa Valley is internationally famous for wine, which is very highly regarded wine in Western countries so commercial production of the wine must be worth squillions of bucks.) If there is any truth in the rumours about global warming, I would think that somebody - probably botanists - are busily keeping an eye on SA's crops. Plus somebody must be worried about the fertilisers and pesticides used on the crops and so forth.

 

It is also common knowledge that although thousands of plants that have been identified are indigenous to Australia and are not found elsewhere in the world, thousands of other plants have not yet been found and identified, so there are loads of researchers who are busily hunting them down everywhere that there is vegetation in Oz. I think that there is quite a lot of vegetation in the south of SA because the rainfall is quite high and I think there is quite a lot of fresh water underground as well.

 

Plus Immigration SA has a secret weapon called Anne Johnson, who is the boss of Immigration SA. She is tough, feisty and used to dealing with DIAC. If she is persuaded that SA needs Botanists, I don't think that she would allow a bunch of Suits from Canberra to argue with her about it. Skills Australia might not think that Botany is wildly important to Australia but Skills Australia is only a Government inspired and paid quango in any case. I'd be very surprised if Anne Johnson really has any interest in what they think about anything.

 

Wait for publication of the State Migration Plan for SA, I would suggest.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

[Guest dream]

Hi dream

 

Thanks for this.

 

SA does have a commercial need for Botanists, although I am not convinced that the need really has much to do with Australia's flora in every case!

 

The largest deposits of uranium which have so far been found, anywhere in the world, are under the ground in South Australia.

 

Uranium is a very valuable commodity. The idea is to dig it up, send it overland ti the commercial ports in SA and to ship it away by sea to its buyers.

 

The public are both muddled and worried. Apparently spent uranium that has been through a nuclear power station is radioactive and dangerous as a result. I gather that raw uranium, in its natural state, is inert and perfectly safe stuff. However once the Public put the Green hat on their heads, it matters little what anybody tells them because they won't listen. They are certain that the uranium is dangerous stuff and that what the scientists are trying to tell them is propaganda and probably untrue.

 

Therefore the anti-uranium lobby are convinced that the uranium will kill all the flora and fauna and the fauna includes Humans, of course. They are worried about the idea that large tracts of SA will become another Hiroshima or that the land will be contaminated in the same way as has happened since the fire at the Bhopal power station in India.

 

Botanists are needed in order to convince everybody that digging the uranium up will not kill any plant life, will not make the soil become radioactive and that it is quite safe to send "raw" uranium overland, by rail, to the commercial ports in SA.

 

There are 3 main uranium deposits, I believe. The first one is the Olympic Dam mine, out at Roxby Down, about 500kms NE of Adelaide. I believe that the uranium ore from there goes to Port Augusta. There is a plan to enlarge the Olympic Dam mine.

 

The Honeymoon mine is in the North of SA, up in the Flinders Ranges. (It is called the Honeymoon mine because it is near a place called Honeymoon Creek, from memory.) I think the Honeymoon mine has only been built and opened fairly recently and there has been a row about it. Apparently when the test drilling was done, the mining company promised that they would restore all the land that they had dug up. Allegedly they didn't bother to repair and restore the landscape but of course the beady-eyed watched the whole thing like hawks, so they made a fuss. I don't know which port the ore from there is going to.

 

I think that the third mine is the smallest of the three and that it is down near Port Pirie somewhere but I have not read anything specific about the third one.

 

The Botanists are definitely needed commercially. Part of their job will be to convince a doubtful public that they won't get some vile disease caused by radiation just because they eat the fruit and veg crops that are grown near the routes that the ore takes. Partly there is also an objective need to make sure that those crops are actually free from contamination.

 

Loads of things are also grown in the Barossa Valley besides grapes. There are several almond orchards in the Valley as well, for example - or near the Valley, anyway. I would think that the climate in SA is good for all sorts of fruit and veg crops (and the Barossa Valley is internationally famous for wine, which is very highly regarded wine in Western countries so commercial production of the wine must be worth squillions of bucks.) If there is any truth in the rumours about global warming, I would think that somebody - probably botanists - are busily keeping an eye on SA's crops. Plus somebody must be worried about the fertilisers and pesticides used on the crops and so forth.

 

It is also common knowledge that although thousands of plants that have been identified are indigenous to Australia and are not found elsewhere in the world, thousands of other plants have not yet been found and identified, so there are loads of researchers who are busily hunting them down everywhere that there is vegetation in Oz. I think that there is quite a lot of vegetation in the south of SA because the rainfall is quite high and I think there is quite a lot of fresh water underground as well.

 

Plus Immigration SA has a secret weapon called Anne Johnson, who is the boss of Immigration SA. She is tough, feisty and used to dealing with DIAC. If she is persuaded that SA needs Botanists, I don't think that she would allow a bunch of Suits from Canberra to argue with her about it. Skills Australia might not think that Botany is wildly important to Australia but Skills Australia is only a Government inspired and paid quango in any case. I'd be very surprised if Anne Johnson really has any interest in what they think about anything.

 

Wait for publication of the State Migration Plan for SA, I would suggest.

 

Cheers

 

Gill

Dear Gill,

Thank you for such a convincing information and suggestion.Thank you.

[Guest nitsy]

Hey Gill,

 

Iam impressed...you have done a good amount of research there..well done.

 

regards,

nitsy

[Guest gederton]

Hi Jag, I am in the first year of a foundation degree in Bsc garden & landscape design and will no doubt do na top up year. It will be called a Bsc landscape design & management. Could I get permanent residency on the strenghth of this. On the jobs list I have only ever noticed landscape architects and landscape gardeners.

 

Thanks

 

Ged

[Val Tibenham]

Hi Jag, I am in the first year of a foundation degree in Bsc garden & landscape design and will no doubt do na top up year. It will be called a Bsc landscape design & management. Could I get permanent residency on the strenghth of this. On the jobs list I have only ever noticed landscape architects and landscape gardeners.

 

Thanks

 

Ged

 

This is a very old post - as there are major changes being implemented on July 1st you would do well to check on the DIAC

website for up to date information.