Guest snoo Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I know about the CPV and the Aged parent visa, but is there any other way? We met an elderly couple in Perth last yr who told us that they were there with their Daughter who had emigrated 6 months ago. They told us that they were on a visa that is renewed every yr (prob a tourist visa? Although I didn't think they could have it renewed as it is then not really a tourist visa?) My Father is too old to wait for possible 10yr for the Aged visa and are thinking that the £30,000 for the CPV is a bit too much for them. In an ideal situation they would like to move over in 12-18 months time, but having applied for maybe the Aged Parent with a view to stay. Is this at all possible? Also, my Father's wife may be eligible for a working visa but I don't know anything about this visa at all....she is 52, is this too old? I am busy packing for our shipping in 2 days time, STRESSED out of my brains...want to kill my Daughter...AAAARRRGGHH! So please forgive me for asking for help rather than finding out this info myself! Although to be honest I have got lots of info on the long-wait visas...but my Dad may have popped his clogs by the time an APV comes through!! Thanks for any help and advice....Lisa,xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoanneHattersley Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 TRy PMing Gollywobbler. She may be able to help you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hi Lisa 1. What visa do you have, please? Do you have Permanent Residency? If so, I note that you have validated your visa and are moving to Oz "properly" in early September 2009. 2. How old is Dad, please? 3. Does his wife work? If so, what is her occupation, please and does she work full time or part time? 4. How many children do Dad and his current wife have between them, including children from previous relationships on either side? If you could help with the answers to these questions we can start to work out what the possibilities might be. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snoo Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Hello again Gill....it's been a while!! Thanks for contacting me regarding this matter, My Father feels that he doesn't have enough time left to be waiting for the APV as he is 65 now. We have the PR visa and will be leaving 3wks tomorrow, just sent the container! My Dad's wife, Carol, is a clerical administrator (at the Magistrates Court) and has been for 6yrs full time. She is 51 and has no children of her own, I have one Brother in the UK, thus 50% of their children will be in Australia. Thanks so much for your time Gill, you are a little star! :wubclub: Lisa,xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browny133 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi, sorry to but in, but the posted question is very close to one I need to ask! My mum wants to emigrate here too, she's 68, and I think that 10 years is too long also. Both myself and my brother live here in Oz, I've got citizenship, and he's got permanent residence. There's only my sister left in UK, and she's emigrating to Dubai in less than a week! My mum lives on her own, and has recently retired. Assuming that she can get a visa (any visa), we would like to get her down here asap. Cheeky I know, but any advice you could put my way on this would be greatly appreciated. Finally, does anyone know what the situation is with expat retirees and medicare/health insurance? I'm afraid that the whole healthcare situation has passed me by, as the army pays mine, and defence health takes care of the family. Thanks very much in advance for any replies, Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snoo Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi Bryan and welcome to PIO. Can I just say that you are welcome to 'but in' on any posts at all as this is an open forum for everyone to join in and give or ask for help and advice! I have just received a lovely invite to Adelaide from a friend of a friend so maybe we'll be popping over from Perth (as you do!) shortly.....got to get to Perth first though! I hope that Gill or another member who is more in the know than I can help us both! It's terrible to think that it may take 10yrs! Good luck, Lisa,x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi Lisa Carol's occupation is not on the SOL and would not be sufficient for employer sponsored migration, so that option is out althuogh she would be able to work full-time, part time or not at all (as she pleases) on a Contributory Parent visa. In an ideal situation they would like to move over in 12-18 months time, but having applied for maybe the Aged Parent with a view to stay. Is this at all possible? It is not possible to apply for an Aged Parent visa or a Contributory Aged Parent visa unless one is actually in Australia at the time, on a visa which is not lumbered with Condition 8503 - No further stay: Australian Immigration Fact Sheet 52b. Waiving Visa Condition 8503 - "No Further Stay" It is also not possible to apply for any of the Parent visas (onshore or offshore) until the child who will sponsor the parent application has become "settled" in Australia: Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - News Alan Collett's article speaks of Contributory Parent visas but the "settled sponsor" rule applies to all Parent visas. Realistically it is likely to be at least a year before your own lifestyle in Oz becomes "settled" enough to be sure of avoiding aggravation with DIAC. I agree that Contributory Parent visas are naffing expensive. In the long run I don't think the non contributory Aged Parent visa is really any cheaper in the end though the costs can be defrayed somewhat if one or both Parents are able to get permission to work during the wait. If they choose the Aged Parent route after reaching Oz for a visit, Carol would probably be able to get permisson to work but DIAC are not obliged to allow this so there is no certainty with the idea. Some dear friends of mine recently did themselves a very good deal. They are pretty elderly - well over 70. They applied for offshore CPV 143s in June 2008 so they beat the price hike which happened later in the year. They then sold their house in the UK. In Feb 2009 they reached Oz to visit their daughter. They obtained 12 month tourist visas on which Condition 8503 was not imposed. In March 2009 the father started musing about whether an onshore application for the Contributory Aged Parent subclass 864 visa would be a better idea. Cost-wise I felt it was quite finely balanced. They would have to make a new visa application and pay a new 1st Instalment and they would have to pay a higher 2nd Instalment because of the price hike in October 2008. I wondered what a week in Fiji or a cruise to Fiji & back would cost? (I've heard that P&O Australia are struggling and that some of their cruises are being sold for knock-down prices for the cabins, though they are professionals at fleecing the passengers once they trap them on board!) In the end the elderly gentleman decided that convenience was more important than cost. He does not want to do any more travelling plus they are keen to buy a house asap but were reluctant to do that without securing PR first. So he paid the new fee and applied for CAPV 864s. The application was lodged on 22nd April 2009. The Parents Visa Centre asked them to do the meds straightaway. There was a bit of delay with those because one of them had to get a specialist's report about a medical condition, which took a few weeks. However they e-mailed me last week to say that the CAPVs had been granted on 5th August. All in all, they saved about 6-8 months on the processing time and they reckon that the peace of mind which they now have justifies any additional costs. If Dad & Carol do something similar, as long as they time it so that they will not straddle two price-zones it would get PR for them quickly and there would then be nothing to stop Carol from getting a job if she wants to rather than cooling her heels on a tourist visa, which is just money going out and nothing coming back in? Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gollywobbler Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hi Bryan Welcome to Poms in Oz. Mum is eligible for Parent migration, it seems: Family - Visas & Immigration Parent Migration Booklet Assurance of Support 9.4 Assurance of Support Scheme My mother has a Contributory Parent subclass 143 visa so please sing out if anything is not clear. Cheers Gill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snoo Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Thanks so much Gill...you know you are wonderful don't you!?!:wubclub: There's a few questions which we have so my Dad will possibly give Alan a call and discuss further. Cost is an issue ultimately, particularly if Carol doesn't find work! We have hope now though! Thanks again! Lisa,xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browny133 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Cheers Gill, I can't read Booklet 3 at home, as I don't have adobe reader on my computer (I know!) but I'll read it at work tomorrow, and I'll be back in touch if (when) I don't understand something. Thanks very much for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browny133 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hi Bryan and welcome to PIO. Can I just say that you are welcome to 'but in' on any posts at all as this is an open forum for everyone to join in and give or ask for help and advice!I have just received a lovely invite to Adelaide from a friend of a friend so maybe we'll be popping over from Perth (as you do!) shortly.....got to get to Perth first though! I hope that Gill or another member who is more in the know than I can help us both! It's terrible to think that it may take 10yrs! Good luck, Lisa,x Cheers Lisa, good luck with your move, don't sweat it, enjoy it. I've heard Perth's beautiful, good choice! Now get off the net and start packing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snoo Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 stuff's all gone mate! Time to relax (well physically, not mentally of course!!) Regarding the Parent Issue, my Father has just spoken to an agent who tells us we are looking at a cost of $80,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enough said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellathedog Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hi Lisa We are parents in that situation! $80k is just the final straw. The bankers (I use the term loosely!) managed to lose us about a third of our savings over the last few years. The saving rates are so low it's farcical and to get to live near our daughter will cost the final bit of savings we had! We've been reading every post on here about parent visas and some good advice has been given, but still we can't make the final push and send off the forms, knowing it will cost so much. Maybe as Quoll suggested to me in an earlier post, just visit for 6 months every year? No, I don't think that's the answer either! Anyway, have a great journey in all senses of the word and maybe all sets of parents will get there eventually! Cheers Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snoo Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Hi Pam, Thanks for the post, it's the old saying 'do we bite the bullet'? And I suppose it comes down to how much capital you have in the first place....and how much you 'want it'! This has made us realise how lucky we are to have our £2,000 PR visa in our passports! Some people think it's as easy as selling up and moving!! HA!!!:err: Our Son is staying here to finish Uni...but as he has his PR visa I thinkhe will be very silly if he doesn't come over eventually and spend enough time in Oz to keep the visa valid! He may struggle if he lets it lapse! NO, he WILL struggle!! All the best to you to Pam, Lisa,xxx PS...they have a dog, so the 6 month thing is out!! Hi LisaWe are parents in that situation! $80k is just the final straw. The bankers (I use the term loosely!) managed to lose us about a third of our savings over the last few years. The saving rates are so low it's farcical and to get to live near our daughter will cost the final bit of savings we had! We've been reading every post on here about parent visas and some good advice has been given, but still we can't make the final push and send off the forms, knowing it will cost so much. Maybe as Quoll suggested to me in an earlier post, just visit for 6 months every year? No, I don't think that's the answer either! Anyway, have a great journey in all senses of the word and maybe all sets of parents will get there eventually! Cheers Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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