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26 minutes ago, VERYSTORMY said:
I am a bit fan of retraining and people going to uni as adults. I have done it twice. Most recently I retrained as my current profession - geologist. Which has given me a lot both work and personally. I have seen many parts of the world. I have been paid to walk the Great Wall of China and many more experiences.
But, do not expect it to end with a visa. Far from it. Even if the occupation is on the list, you would still need to meet the points, something which is getting ever harder - the number of visas to be issued next year has been cut drastically again. So, you could well face not being able to meet the points as you would have no experience points and by the time you do, you may be too old / dream the move no longer practical
Glad to hear you have re-trained and it has been a success and getting paid to walk the Great Wall of China sounds amazing! Geologist sounds like an interesting profession, what made you want to be a geologist?
Yeah I know the goal posts for Oz are constantly changing so it's always going to be a risk and it might well never happen, I just feel I need to be doing something to at least try, 5 years ago I almost re-trained to be a midwife, I talked myself out of it for various reasons, I felt I was too old to go back to uni - I was 26!
and I chose to continue full time working, two redundancies later... I feel annoyed at myself for not taking the leap when I had the chance, so I don't want to miss the boat again so to speak!
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10 minutes ago, Quoll said:
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3 minutes ago, Amber Snowball said:
Hi, sort of the same but different!
years ago I was a single parent on a council estate, working part time in MFI (yes that long ago!
). I decided my means of escape from a not very bright future was to train in a job that I could use to move to Australia. I did an access to nursing course and it was invaluable for me returning to study. I use returning to study loosely as I barely attended school and left with very few GCSEs.......
I did my nursing, worked for a couple of years, applied for my visa and moved to Victoria. I was there for 13 years and have now returned to the Uk.
I don’t think it’s a crazy idea at all. It worked for me! My life is unrecognisable now to what it was.
You sound rational and aware that anything can change in the next few years but that shouldn’t stop you giving it a go!
I worked bloody hard for what I have now but at least I have something to show for my efforts and had a great experience into the bargain!
Go for it. Might work out, might not but if you don’t try you’ll never know!
Thank you so much for your reply.
Your story is inspiring and it sounds like you knew what you wanted and went for it! That is my thoughts exactly, if I don't go for it I will always wonder what if...worst that can happen is I re-train, it isn't on the skills list, so I have a fulfilling career here in the UK. At least I know I will have given it a good shot...
It's nice to hear you did it with a child in tow too, as most people think I'm crazy changing careers at 31 and hoping to have a family at the same time!
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10 minutes ago, Quoll said:
Have you seen the posts on this and other boards about the oversupply of nurses in Australia with new graduates being churned out and unable to find jobs. Usual advice is to train in something you are absolutely busting to do, not because it might one day get you a visa for another first world country.
No I haven't but I will take a look...seems like this is the case for accountants, internal auditors, teachers, nurses...makes me wonder why they are all still on the list if the demand has been met or exceeded in these professions.
I will definitely choose to train in something that I am interested in and that would also work for me in the UK if Aus isn't an option.
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Just now, Sunshine80 said:
Quoll as is usual is correct.
There are more graduates than jobs at present.
Seems like this is representative of most of the occupations on the medium to long term skills list at the moment from what I'm reading there are more applicants than jobs for most of professions, why do they remain on the skills list for so long if they don't actually need them?
My current thoughts in terms of my interests are Midwifery, Radiography, Nursing (Child)...
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2 minutes ago, Sunshine80 said:
Hi Captain,
I was on the board posting reply to something else and saw this.
I work in healthcare and I am a registered nurse.
As visa situation can be unpredictable, even precarious at times do the course that you would enjoy and benefit the most.
Which ever you choose may not lead to visa in 3 to 5 years time but at least you will a job you enjoy and will be able to get work in the UK.
Nobody can predict the skills shortage and visa criteria can change all the time.
Yes, thank you. Here's hoping!
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Hi all
So I have posted a few times in this forum in regards to re-training as my hubby despite working in Oz on temp contracts over the past 7 years on both WHV and temp work visas, we haven't had the chance to make it more permanent as my husband who is an experienced graphic designer but without degree has struggled to get anything more than temp contracts on temp visas and due to him not being educated to degree level we haven't been able to apply to emigrate when graphic designer has been on the skills list.
It's been a bit a bonkers to be honest as Australian companies pay him a lot of money to work for them including flights and accommodation for 3/4 months at a time but won't offer sponsorship which they could then get the work done more cost effectively. Anyway I digress...
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We have reached a point now where we know we would like our future to be in Australia as it is never far from our minds and I am kicking myself for not re-training sooner but now we feel time is sensitive as we'd like a family etc. and we know for certain that sponsorship for my hubby isn't an option, I have decided to re-train.
I have just been accepted on an Access to Healthcare course which is 1 year, then I am looking to apply for a 3 year university degree in either Nursing, Midwifery or Radiography. I am still undecided as to which, as I am drawn to each of them for very different reasons but this is something I am now researching and I have a year to make up my mind on which is more suitable and perhaps will give us the best chance at emigrating!
I'm currently 31, so by the time I qualify I will be 35 (we are also thinking we may try have a child alongside me studying but that's a whole other conversation!)
I know the skills lists are updated all the time and that there is no guarantee that any of these occupations will be on one by the time I am qualified but I would be happy to work in these professions in the UK also so it's a risk we are willing to take as I know my biggest regret would always be not trying to get us to Australia. At least this way I will have at least tried to!
I guess my main question is can anyone share their experiences of re-training to get to Australia? (and does this sound like a crazy idea?!)
Thanks
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On 23/01/2019 at 12:17, VERYSTORMY said:
Ther are no requirements on what you do. You can change career, retrain or what ever you want.
I think given what it takes to get a Visa and all the hoops people must jump through, it is then laughable that they go through all the visa checks for qualifications and experience and then you don't actually have to even then work in the skilled occupation. It's bizarre.
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15 minutes ago, Jenki75 said:
If you are talking about the ANZSCO Occupation Ceiling numbers ... 2018/2019 numbers can be found here, along with a snapshot of where the invites stand.
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/occupation-ceilings
I would imagine the 2019/2020 numbers would come out after the election, and closer to the end of the migration year/start of the next (End June 30, 2019, start next July 1, 2019).
If you are talking about the TOTAL number of invites they cap it at, the planning levels, once again we have to wait until at least after the election, if not closer to the year end.
Although I believe recent sentiments from ScoMo suggest the expected invites will come down from 189k to 160k.
Thank you !
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Do they update the visa lists every year? I can see the lists for 2017-2018, just wondered if they will be a 2019-2020 list updated and when?
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I meant as in what accountancy qualification does she have? ACA / ACCA ?
Sounds like they won't accept her as chartered unless she is ICAEW or equivalent from the moment she began practising as a CA. Perhaps do some research and speak to a migration agent, I'm sure there must be some way to transfer her relevant experience across.
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What Accountancy qualification does your wife have?
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I've been looking at a similar route to you and after some research and people's feedback on here, it's likely that due to the high saturation of applicants for Accountants, a lot of Accountants are now turning to apply via auditing so the points needed for both professions is high and competitive, 75-80 points desirable. So if you have 70, you may be waiting a long time.
If you work for one of the big 4 accountancy firms and have an option to transfer, I would think that may be a quicker route although a skilled independent visa is much more preferable for your own security. Post qualification experience is also generally required.
A lot of people also gave me feedback that Accountants may be removed from the skilled lists in the near future because of their over subscription.
Interested to follow your journey (as it may give me some hope!)
Good luck!
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My husband has had his shorts and flip-flops on for past two days...in Yorkshire. Reckons it's too still cold to paint the shed or the fence or do any general garden maintenance though...
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On 19/02/2019 at 05:24, NomadicBrit said:
Hi all, first time post to this forum and might be a little long, so bear with me!
My wife and I relocated to Sydney in May last year, after spending close to a year travelling SE Asia and Western Australia after leaving the UK in June 2017. So we have now been here 9 months. After a few months of unsettled accommodation and having to move twice in the first 3 months, we got relatively settled early September and I began to look for work in earnest.
I am a Software Engineer by trade (so have a PR Visa) but really over the last 10 years have been a Software Architecture and Senior Technical Manager and have worked for some very large organisations in the financial services sector for over 20 years.
The problems I have been having getting work so far:
- Lack of senior level jobs compared to London (to be expected)
- Being totally ignored by recruitment agents whilst applying for jobs I have all the skills for and demonstrable on my CV
- Going for interviews, getting through to final phases to either get a "No" or never being got back too (unprofessional and highly disrespectful)
- Been given no feedback at any point (or any at all when they ghost me even if I ask for feedback by a follow up email and then gets ignored).
- Not understanding what I am doing wrong in interviews to not secure positions I am qualified, if not even over-qualified to do.
The startups have generally been better at getting back to me than the medium to large sized organisation, which is interesting in and of itself.
It's now getting to the point where we have spent enough money being out here and, with the job market not looking great at the moment, we are wondering what to do. I could walk into a job in the UK as soon as we moved back, even though we don't really want to do that but, finances are now getting to the point where we don't want to waste much more money on banging our head against what we are beginning to see is a brick wall. It does get utterly soul destroying getting rejected for jobs, especially having had a highly successful career previously, and the uncertainty and not working has been causing some deal of stress, as it would for anyone.
I'm 45 years old (was 44 when we got here), so I'm not sure whether age is an issue or not, given that I am apply for senior Head of Engineering/Architecture/Technology roles, as this age would be the sweet spot in the UK for these roles.
Anyone else had similar experiences, and should we give it a couple of more months or cut our losses and head back home?
Many thanks in advance for replies on this.
Not sure if this is helpful or not but you mention financial service sector, have you looked at the Big accounting firms in the city that have offices established in both UK and Australia? maybe reaching out to their UK talent Recruiters on LinkedIn?
The big four regularly sponsor candidates to move over to Australia for senior roles, however with recent visa changes it is becoming more tricky so they might welcome applicants who already have their visa sorted and are actually already in Australia, saves on relocation costs etc.
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I'd sell your TV there and save on the shipping costs & hassle...you can buy a Smart TV here fairly reasonably.
Perhaps bring back a lifetime supply of Espresso Martini Tim Tams? Us Oz wannabe's would pay good kudos for them on the black market
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What is your profession?
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Aw I loved travelling through Bateman's bay when I was in Oz and I'm from Yorkshire but not currently in Oz..so not helpful lol but the title pulled me in!
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So sorry to hear this, it sounds like lots of people who have emigrated are struggling to find work regardless of age, so can't imagine frustrated how you feel.
What type of work do you do?
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Not so much a hidden gems, but being a Yorkshire girl, there are so many places I love!
Saltaire and Salts Mill - there is something so lovely about walking through the old textile mill in summer looking at all the books and the strong smell of the lillies in the sun on the window sills.
Malham Cove - walking the limestone paths on the top of Malham cove and down to the waterfalls at Janet's Foss.
Haworth - I love my local village of Haworth, the cobbled Main Street at Xmas, lit with fairy lights and sprinkled with snow it's the home of the Bronte parsonage and so much literary history.
Ilkley/York - Betty's tearooms are my favourite treat
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3 minutes ago, SarahL said:
Thanks.
Yep, I’m hoping people can help me add to those lists as I don’t want to miss anything!
We are both secondary school teachers. Well I was before we had kids but I am hoping to return to it in a couple of years.
Aw fantastic, I suppose next steps are to look into areas to live in, secure jobs (if you haven't done already), sign up to some agencies. Do as much research as possible, shipping costs etc.
I haven't emigrated yet so I suppose I haven't got much I can add, but good luck!
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Congratulations! I guess it's time to make lots of to do lists
Out of interest what is it you and you other half do for jobs?
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9 hours ago, Marisawright said:
You are absolutely right that all the cities are different. My niece adored Sydney when on her WHV. She would've liked to apply for PR but didn't have the skills. A few years later, she had the chance to transfer to Perth for a project at work - she jumped at the chance, but she hated Perth and couldn't wait to get back to London. Before heading back, she had a month in Brisbane to finalise the project and didn't care for it either. But interestingly, she had visited both those cities on her WHV and liked them. Actually living in them was a different kettle of fish.
And that's the flaw in the suggestion to travel around Australia and see how you feel. You need to stay n each place more than a week or two, to know what it's like to live there. That is realistic for a singleton or a young, childless couple who can pick up work here and there. Many families couldn't afford to take several months off work to travel around, with no income coming in. And since just getting to Australia in the first place costs most families at least 30K, it's sometimes the case that if they spend money travelling and then decide not to stay, they can't afford to go home.
I agree, travelling on a WHV and permanently residing in a city or different country for that matter, are two very different things and I think most people who look to emigrate or have emigrated will have considered this. I also agree it's more realistic for a single person or childless couple to spend some time travelling than it is a family.
However, I do think sometimes people go to one area of Australia and think that is the representation of the whole of Australia, so if they hate it they assume they will dislike all parts of Australia, which might not be the case. The only way of knowing if you can settle in Australia is trial and error, much like if you moved from north of UK to South or otherwise (even though that's a minuscule move in comparison to moving cities in Australia), it's new, different, unfamiliar, not like home as you know it so will always take a period of adjustment and the amount of time it takes to settle is individual to each person, some might never settle. I suppose it's just about doing as much research as you can and matching up the places which can offer the things that you're looking for.
All I know is, I found different parts of Australia to give me better feelings than others, there was some areas I know I would struggle to settle in and some that felt more familiar. So you can get a feel for a place even if you only experience it for a short time, as for knowing whether you can settle there or not - it's apparent from reading people's experiences on here that you can only really decide by giving it a go.
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What about taking some time to do some travelling around Australia and seeing how you feel in different places? Australia is vast and every city is different. I've travelled all over Australia over the years and I definitely preferred some places to others. I have to say I preferred Sydney to Melbourne and I loved Brisbane.
I think if it was me, I would need to do some travelling before making my mind up completely, I agree with others, 7 months is a short amount of time to feel settled, trust your gut instinct but make sure you explore all options to enable you to help you make the right decision.
Re-training Access Course - Healthcare Professions
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Thank you so much for your insight and advice.
I have two friends that are mental health nurses and they love what they do, albeit, it can be very challenging. I am actually a volunteer for my local MIND charity and have been for the last 5 years I organise events and outings and also help support the drop in centre, so I have some experience of working with people with mental health issues. It would be a consideration if I take the nursing route to perhaps specialise in this area.
It is good to know that AUS recognise the UK nursing training so highly.
Your post gives me food for thought, so thank you. I will do some further research into this.