MillieB

They cannot keep their place in the queue.  They would need to cancel 143 visa and apply for 864, paying 1st payment and starting in a queue again.

3 hours ago, Lash said:

1. My parents applied for the 143 visa (Contributory Parent visa) in 2019. Now they are over 70 years old and is it possible for us to transfer the application over to 864 Visa (Contributory Aged Parent visa) as this would provide a bridging visa if it is applied on shore (as they have a visitor visa without No Further Stay condition).
2. In case if we can transfer from 143 to 864, will that impact our original date of application which is May 2019 or will it be carried over to the new application (864).

Thanks in advance for your valuable feedback. 

You will forfeit your 1st vac for 143 and need to make new application for 864.  You cannot transfer, unfortunately.

On 21/03/2024 at 03:26, Alan Collett said:

https://www.gm-parent-visas.com/parent-visas-the-number-of-visas-granted-to-date/?fbclid=IwAR1IUPKxUp95DNSVTwnn4tT3EAG6Sm1wQgOkKPC1SWiMd6FxbuqzuJKR7NI

 

We have details of the number of parent visas granted in the current program year through to 29 Feb 2024.

 

This indicates that there are still some 2,500 available visa grants available to Contributory Parent visa applicants for the year to 30 June 2024.

 

Best regards.

It doesn’t look like they’ll grant full allocation.  So frustrating.

5 hours ago, Sherlock said:

Well I'm not going to question that queue date hahaha...

@Sherlock  Panic over!  I got a revised queue letter today.  We’ve now got our application date as our queue date -  18/07/18.  It looks like they are amending all queue dates issued to applications made since 01/06/23.  Phew!  

5 hours ago, Sherlock said:

@Alan Collett- By "write to them" I simply meant write to the PVC (unless you have an agent ofcourse).

@Sherlock I think Alan means it is not correct that you have a queue date the same as your application date, unless you applied before 1st June 2018.  Hopefully,  @Alan Collett will reply to clarify. 

1 hour ago, Sherlock said:

@MillieB - I also feel that it must be a human error - I strongly suggest you write to them with details (if you haven't already).

@Sherlock   Thanks, Sherlock.  I don’t think the error is with my queue date.  Other 143 applicants have been given much later queue dates than their application date.  It is only seems to be applicants contacted recently that have been given their application date, as their queue date.

I have emailed my migration agent so,  hopefully, he can shed some light on this.

42 minutes ago, thinh7tn said:

I just read this on the homeaffairs website:

Note: If you applied for a Contributory Parent visa before 1 June 2018, the queue date is the application lodgement date. For all other applications, the queue date is assigned once the application is assessed as meeting the core visa criteria.

Thanks.  Yes I am aware of this.  My application date is 18/07/2018 and my queue date is 10/05/21.  Two posts on different forums yesterday, said they had just received the queue date letter and had been given the application date as the queue date.  One application October 2018, queue date October 2018, ( I can’t remember the exact date.  They posted the queue letter but the post has since been deleted).  The one posted on here yesterday, is a November 2018 applicant and they have confirmed they have also been given their application date as their queue date.  
 

My issue is that, despite applying later than me, their queue date is nearly 3 years earlier.  I’m sure this is human error, (we all make mistakes), but I’m hoping that this is noticed and rectified, so everyone is dealt with timely and fairly.  

9 hours ago, Sherlock said:

Yes the queue date has been specified same as application date - 14 Nov 2018

 

You may want to write to them about your case. Maybe the case officer made a mistake in assigning the queue date.

@Alan Collett can anything be done about this, Alan?  Suddenly the queue dates have started being given as the date of application, meaning earlier applications have been given a much later queue date.  This is the second one I heard about yesterday.  Thanks.

10 hours ago, Sherlock said:

Subclass 143 Application Date - 14/11/2018

Received Queue Date email today after 5 years. I know this doesn't change much, but glad to see that they are at least looking at the applications and assigning queue dates.

Please will you confirm that your queue date is 14/11/18 - the same as your application date?  A post on another Social Media platform stated they’d received a queue date the same as their application date - October 2018.  
 

My queue date is 10/05/21 and my application date is 18/07/18.  

11 hours ago, Alan Collett said:

... assuming all required documents have been submitted to the Department.

Not having done so can push you backwards relative to other parent visa applications.

Best regards.

Luckily you are dealing with our application, Alan.  

Hi, You will just be notified of the queue date. 

4 hours ago, Gavin_K said:

hi everyone, just a bit of relaxation for all the June 2016 applicants (including me) , i know someone through a facebook group with acknowledgment date 03/06/2016 whoz asked for assurance of support and medicals etc yesterday. Please keep each other updated guys. hopefully we all will hear some good news soon.

Also please someone lemme know how i can add my signatures here ?so i dont have to write my details again and again.

thank you

I read this too!  At least there’s movement.

To add your signature click on your name top right.  Select account settings then signature should be on the left. 

On 12/11/2021 at 08:45, LindaH27 said:

It sounds entirely possible that those visas  ended because of the conditions about self funding and the yearly increases. I would agree with you on that. I know that private health insurance in UK  jumps massively once you reach 65 and most have to stop using it. Once of my friends was paying £148 per month and on reaching 65 she was told her premium would go up to £543!!! Needless to say she stopped paying for it  

I’m very sure they will be looking very carefully at 804 - especially when they notice the numbers of people prepared to apply for it will start shooting up once they get over there - I’ve seen so many posts here and on other forums where others are promoting 804 as the answer to the long queues for contributory parents. 
The whole system needs looking at - there are too many loopholes at present. I know there’s also a lot  of anger especially among parents waiting for years offshore about the  the recent  loophole whereby people who may have only recently applied for 143 but who were in Australia when the borders closed, were  able to obtain a bridging visa enabling them to stay onshore until grant of 143 many many years in the future. That was unfair to all those in the queue. The bridging visa should only have been valid until the borders opened. Others mainly young people on temporary visas were told to go home whereas older parents on temporary visas could end up staying.
 

Australia really needs to get a grip on its immigration policies otherwise it’s opening itself up to unsustainable massive expense in the future. 

I couldn’t agree more with your comments Lynda. I too have seen lots of posts on other forums saying the 804 visa is the way to go once borders open.  I cannot get my head around being allowed to enter Australia on a tourist visa with no intention of being a tourist. 

Too many unfair loopholes that need looking at, urgently. 

1 hour ago, ramot said:

More people now accessing Medicare with  those 143 visa holders on bridging visas also now costing the country money, while contributing nothing. Similar to people on the 804 visa taking advantage of a legal way to stay in Australia. It’s irrelevant that people think it’s unfair, the 804  visa is in place for the moment and there is nothing wrong with anyone eligible to apply for it. Yes it probably is unsustainable long term, but that’s for the government to sort out, seems unfair to blame anyone on the 804 visa for being here.

Does anyone know how many people are in Australia on the 804 visa?

I wouldn’t be surprised to see major changes to all the parent visas.

Is it legal to go to Australia on a tourist visa with no intention of being a tourist? 

2 hours ago, LindaH27 said:

I also think that they’ve diverted some staff from parent visas to other sections dealing with emergency bridging visas and Covid visas to keep people lawfully on shore who were stuck once the borders closed - although I think some were highly delighted as they got an emergency bridging visa which enabled them to stay till 143 is granted many years in the future!! 

I am sure this is the case.  I work for central government and since Covid I have not done my usual job but have been covering different roles depending where the priorities are.

12 hours ago, LindaH27 said:

Yoh haven’t mentioned the one thing that impacts very highly on the Australian taxpayer is the huge numbers of 804 applicants who pay a low fee, are allowed to wait onshore and are entitled to essential Medicare if they come from one of the eleven countries that have a reciprocal health agreement with Australia. The report in 2016 also recommending getting rid of 804 except for compassionate cases. They’ve tried to get rid of this visa before. I know it’s probably be a sore point amongst those who have or hope to apply but it is discriminatory as they are allowed to wait onshore on bridging visas unlike those of the same age on 103 and 143. 143  applicants opted to pay a large sum of money in the belief  they would be granted their visa more quickly but are very disillusioned now especially as they have to wait offshore. 
Also due  to people realising the length of the wait time now I feel there will be a huge jump in numbers who will apply for 804 once the borders open, thereby increasing the costs to Australian taxpayers. 
 

If they stripped out the cost of Medicare to those on 804 the overall cost to taxpayers as envisaged in the report would drop - a lot! 


 

I agree with this Linda.  The loophole to allow people to go over on a Tourist visa, apply for a 804 and then get issued a bridging visa whilst on-shore, needs closing.  

2 hours ago, Tulip1 said:

There was some terrible examples of that early on.  There was a report in one hospital that people on end of life care had Covid put on their death certificates even though they were days away from dying from something else and never had a Covid test.  I actually spoke to a few people who said the same thing had happened.  Someone told me their mum was on end of life with cancer, was in hospital a week and passed away.  The death certificate said Covid.  That’s so bad.

I think everyone has examples of this.  I found it really bad, too. I’m sure it was because only one doctor was needed to sign death certificate when Covid was entered as the cause of death, instead of the usual two doctors needed (post Dr Shipman). 

33 minutes ago, LindaH27 said:

I believe there are still people who paid AOS and provided police and medical checks in May 2020 who are still waiting for their visa to be granted! They always release more for processing from the queue than places are actually available as they know some will be refused/ withdrawn etc. The refusal rate has been around 3% for a few years but has recently increased to 18% in last couple of years!! 

Thanks for the reply, Linda. Wow! Still waiting for visa grants from May 2020 - slower  than a snails pace. 

 I wonder if the refusal rate increasing is due to the length of time waiting for visa processing and applicants getting older?   The older we get the more chance of health conditions developing, resulting in possible medical failure. 

Has anyone been contacted to provide further information - medical, police checks etc?  Is it me or does everything seemed to have stopped after the few grants at the start of the visa year?  

@AJM22

Very impressed with your research.  Thank you for posting.

I find the shortfall on grant of available visas since 16/17 concerning.  I wonder why this is?  Maybe staff shortages? 

23 hours ago, Radagast said:

I have two questions for those who completed the application forms themselves:

1) Form 47A (Details of Dependent Family Member) says: 'This form must be completed for each member of the family unit aged 18 years or over whether migrating or not'. My wife (who is an Australian citizen and only child) is sponsoring her two parents for 143 visas, her mother being the main applicant. Clearly my wife's father will need to fill out a Form 47A. My question is that the notation seems to imply that my wife (the sponsor) and my wife's mother (the main applicant) should also technically fill out Form 47A's as they are 'members of the family unit aged 18 years or over'. Does anyone know whether the main applicant also has to fill out a Form 47A as well as the main 47PA form? Does anyone know if the sponsor has to fill out a Form 47A as well as the main form 40 sponsor form? Or are they exempt because they have their 'own' forms that they have completed.

2) A bit more certain about this - if my mother in law is the main applicant and father in law is the secondary applicant, does father in law need to fill out a separate Form 47PA? I gather not, just a 47A.

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.

Hi,  The definition of Member of the Family Unit is limited to partners and dependent children.  Your wife is not dependent on the main applicant, so she wouldn’t be included.  It’s a few years since I completed the application but I remember only filling in one form - me being primary applicant and my husband the secondary applicant. My son completed the sponsorship form.

Hope that helps. 

12 minutes ago, Alan Collett said:

Errr ... I think not!

Stay calm.  

Thanks Alan!  Please ignore the email I have just sent you.  Panic over!

10 minutes ago, LindaH27 said:

Won’t they actually be longer? They go by the dates so currently they’re processing May/June 2016. So surely an application with a queue date three years later than  the actual application is bound to take longer?? EG applied July 2018 but won’t  look at it when it reaches that processing date but only when the processing date reaches the queue date three years later? I wonder if it’s a way of saying they expect it to take 3 years longer than normal due  to the  length of the queue? 
804 and 103 parent visas have always had a queue date - and they’re only presently considering  dates for 2010 (I think!) which would have applied earlier than that. 

I am assuming they will just take the next one out of the queue.  Are you saying they will not  start processing any 143 applications after May 18 lodgements for 3 years?  Wow!  I think I’ll ask our agent’s take on this. 

4 hours ago, hawkeye10 said:

Hi guys, just received the Queue Letter from PVC an hour ago. We applied in July 2018, and got the queue date of 28 May 2021. Tbh, I don't really understand the separation between applications submitted before and after June 2018. What about the gap between June 2018 and May 2021? It's totally meaningless, imo.

Hi,  Applicants prior to June 18 are given their lodgement date as their queue date.  I assume they will be processed in queue date order and ignore the 3 year gap.  Going forward Immi will start using queue dates rather than lodgement dates.  Will that be so processing wait times don’t seem as long, even though they are?

4 hours ago, huubang said:

Lodged 20 June 2018.

What kind of email is it? I got an email in Nov 2020 requesting for copies of passport but nothing more

It is a letter sent by email - Queue date assigned.  You lodged your application a month before us, so I would have thought you would have heard by now.