lewisant48

On 3/8/2018 at 20:13, Raul Senise said:

No, this will only apply to applicants who had already lodged a subclass 457 visa, when the changes where announced in April last year. Anyone after that time will need to meet whatever the new rules are.

Thanks for your reply Raul, i thought that would be the case but worth asking!

Just a thought, but being as it hasn't transitioned to a TSS yet will 457 rules apply - as in if i applied right now with sponsorship from a job on the STSOL would i be able to upgrade to a 186/187 after 2 years like you can on the 457 or will TSS rules apply. 

Or do we just not know yet...?

Hi guys, i have a plan A and plan B, both have been discussed on here.

Now there's also potentially a back up plan. In 2002 i passed a Btec National Diploma in Hospitality and Catering Management and then i was a chef for 12 years. Thing is it's been over 4 years since i was a chef so i wondered if this would affect an assessment. I've asked the migration agent who has been advising me at OE (that we're highly likely to be using, i think it's @Richard Gregan who heads up that agency and he's been great too, calling my fiancee and leaving a message on Friday) and i'm waiting on a reply.

I could potentially use my career as a chef to obtain a visa and get back in the kitchen!

Any advice on this would be welcomed.

Thanks, Lewis

47 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

I think you've missed my point. Using a temporary visa as a way of "getting into the country" usually ends in tears.    A temp visa is a temp visa and then you're supposed to go home.  Did you read the bit about you not being able to get a job if your gf is on a temp visa?  What if the employer is a shonk or a bully or a sexual harasser? Will you expect her to stick it out for a couple of years, so you can get a better visa?   

If you've got the option for a better visa now, be patient and go through the "rigmarole".

I do see your point completely. It looks like the 489 isn't an option now unless we get 12 months work experience in SA in our nominated job so it's become more complicated now the 489 vet nurse option has moved to the supplementary 'special conditions apply' list. Bit gutting as like you say, it throws a lot of uncertainty. It's more likely i'd be a primary applicant on a sponsor visa now as my job is on the MLTTS but then i could face all the concerns you've mentioned above. I wish i could get enough points, it would make it so much better.

28 minutes ago, VERYSTORMY said:

Correct and I would say the chances of vet nurse going onto the long term list as zero, if it moves in any direction it is likely to be removed entirely. 

Well today it has been moved to the supplementary list for SA so that's a kick in the teeth but it is what it is! Looks like sponsorship through my work (Welfare Centre Manager) is now our better option. Or gf getting a job as a vet nurse TSS then 12 months experience before being able to apply on 489 in SA (as that's one of the special conditions apply things) but like you say, if that comes off the list then that plan is scuppered! 

Best to look at this as a 2 year adventure and if we find something permanent then great and if we don't then we'll just enjoy it while we're there.

It's a constantly changing thing so i'm not going to get too emotional as things can change for better or worse between now and the end of this process.

Looks like the TSS may be something just to get us in the country then but the main goal should be a 489. Thanks for the advice!

On 2/7/2018 at 21:51, Marisawright said:

The TSS is just a temp job, that happens to be in another country.   If she hates the job, she can't leave, because then you'd both have to go home. If the business goes bust, you'll both have to go home.  You may find it hard to get work, because employers know you can't give any undertakings about whether you'll stay - if your gf gets the sack, you'll disappear.

The trouble with TSS contracts is that employers have a lot of power over you - you can't hand in your notice if they treat you badly or demand unreasonable overtime, because you don't want to get thrown out of the country.  Some employers take advantage of that. So you need to have confidence in the integrity of the employer.

The 489 would be a much better option IMO, even if it is a rigmarole.

Thanks for the advice appreciate that. I guess that means a job from the short term stream can't be sponsored to stay in Australia unless it's promoted to the MLTSSL. Plenty to think about as we look to apply!

Thanks for your replies guys, very helpful.

Lisa - when you’re on a TSS from a job of the short term list rather than medium and it reaches the end of its two years, can you apply for a further two years should the occupation still be on the list? At which point when you get to the third year can you apply for a 186/187? Or is that pathway just for medium term lists?

To me it looks like it’ll be good to get over on a TSS, treat it as tempoarary but then apply for a 489 as soon as we can. 

If im over their names on her visa but find sponsorship on my occupation (which is on the medium list) can I go through that and name her is we may then get four years and will be able to use the 186/187 pathways.

thanks

On 08/02/2018 at 02:32, Lisa De Leon said:

The TSS visa has a pathway to permanent residency through the 186 or 187 visa categories for occupations on the MLTSSL after 3 years working with the same employer (it was 2 years for the 457 Temporary Residence Transition stream but this is changing on 1 March with the new TSS visa category). Your partner would be able to apply for a 489 visa while holding a TSS visa as long as the occupation remains eligible.

Hi guys. I've posted here a few times before explaining our situation so hopefully those in the know may have seen my posts!

Basically we are in England, not even applied yet but very close to starting the process and my gf/wife by August has been in touch with vets in Adelaide/SA who can offer sponsorship through the TSS visa. She is a vet nurse (29) and i'm a care home manager (33).

Vet nurse is currently on the short term list so we can only get a temporary 2 year visa if we go down the TSS route.

Advice needed - While on the TSS visa, are we allowed to apply for a longer term visa such as a 489? Or are we just a bit better off going through the rigmarole of the 489 now and paying for the skills assessment etc as she has more than enough points. Then when we're in Aus our only major visa worry will be the 887 after 2 years to apply for PR.

Thanks!

PS - my job is on the medium list but i don't have enough points so TSS through me is our other option as that could be a 4 year visa which i believe can be transformed to something more long term after 2 years? Yes? No?

Hi guys. I've posted here a few times before explaining our situation so hopefully those in the know may have seen my posts!

Basically we are in England, not even applied yet but very close to starting the process and my gf/wife by August has been in touch with vets in Adelaide/SA who can offer sponsorship through the TSS visa. She is a vet nurse (29) and i'm a care home manager (33).

Vet nurse is currently on the short term list so we can only get a temporary 2 year visa if we go down the TSS route.

Advice needed - While on the TSS visa, are we allowed to apply for a longer term visa such as a 489? Or are we just a bit better off going through the rigmarole of the 489 now and paying for the skills assessment etc as she has more than enough points. Then when we're in Aus our only major visa worry will be the 887 after 2 years to apply for PR.

Thanks!

PS - my job is on the medium list but i don't have enough points so TSS through me is our other option as that could be a 4 year visa which i believe can be transformed to something more long term after 2 years? Yes? No?

Is this the case for the 489 visa, or could anybody list the visas that this is relevant for? I genuinely thought you had to work in the job/skill that gets you to the country.

I can't help with that but i'd love to hear more about going to SA on a 489 as veterinary nurse as that is one of our options as my fiancee is a very nurse, qualified for about a year now but 4 year's experience.

On 11/20/2017 at 02:34, Xenia Canberra said:

No, applicants' qualifications do not need to be relevant to the nominated occupation.

Thanks very much

13 hours ago, jagzz said:

Suggest to use relevant degree you can try to increase points by IELTS ot PTE

I'm sorry but i don't quite understand this 

6 hours ago, wrussell said:

No.

Any  recognised degree in any discipline will attract 15 points.

That is great news, thanks for you reply.

Hey everybody. I've looked all through the forum archives to try and find an answer to my query so i didn't have to start a new thread but i've had no joy.

You get points for qualifications, but do the qualifications have to be relevant to the occupation? My girlfriend will be the primary applicant as veterinary nurse but she has a BA Degree in Textiles - will that degree get her further points or does she have to use the qualification attached to vet nursing? it's much lesser and will give less points.

Thanks, Lewis

10 hours ago, SUPERSTARDJ01 said:

 

Applied to qld for my 489 visa on Wednesday 8/11/17 and got accepted today 13/11/17 quick turn around, let's hope the visa is as quick

Wow! What the processing time on a 489! I wouldn't want it to be too quick when i apply!

If i were you, i'd go WHV while you're young enough, get a feel for Aus, and gain work experience in Aus. No brainer for me.

This is something i want to know as well as some of our qualifications here in the UK that aren't a degree ARE the equivalent to what assessment companies are asking for. Some seem to say x amount of year's experience can make up for lack of certificates, but that does only apply to certain roles from what i can tell.

I was going to ask this myself - the 457 advice on the border gov site words it like this: 

"If your nominated occupation is a trade occupation, you might need to do a skills assessment. The Trades Recognition Australia website has more information on which occupations require an assessment.

You must provide a skills assessment for migration purposes if your nominated occupation is one of the following:

• Program or Project Administrator (ANZSCO 511112)
• Specialist Managers nec (not elsewhere classified) (ANZSCO 139999)."

This makes me read it that skills assessments are only needed for some trade occupations and the two bullet pointed occupations.

Am i right?

5 hours ago, VERYSTORMY said:

First, do not trust companies that agree to get sponsorship. 

You only need one of you to qualify. The other is granted a visa as partner. 

Assuming it is you as main applicant you need to pass the skills assessment for which ever occupation you apply under and I am not sure you currently can. qualification experience. This is the key bit as in most occupations only experience gained AFTER. The qualification is counted. 

As a result I would recommend you speak to a registered migration agent. 

They aren't companies that have offered sponsorship they are legit veterinary businesses (i shouldn't have said companies in my original post) that she has been back and forth with but we aren't stupid and won't be handing any money over or anything like that, we know what to look for and what not to look for when it comes to the offers of sponsorship. 

That's the thing if i'm the main applicant, the Welfare Services Manager occupation offers more freedom but i don't have the experience whereas the lesser roles based more around support work seem to allow for experience to compensate less time after qualification. Having said that, by the time we apply i will have a year of post qualification experience.

The other half however has more points and more post qualification experience.

I think we will go through an agent linked on bobinoz where there is a special deal for an initial consultation with no further obligations as bobinoz seems like a very helpful, legitimate kind of fella.

Thanks for the reply and advice!

Which list is it? Short term or medium to long term? Check the ANZCO website search it on there. I'm guessing coming tomorrow and Monday when the Aussie dwellers are back online we'll both get replies to our responses. Visa options are a massive thing to get your head around, i've been researching a year and i find out new things every time.

Pretty sure you could just go out on a  working holiday visa and i'm also certain 20K is more than enough. Look on the skills lists to see if your job is on them if you're looking for a more permanent visa. I'm guessing people that can help will be able to help better if you provide a bit more info on yourself - kids/no kids? Spouse? and so on.

Hi everybody. I've replied to a couple of threads but i am new to the forum today, i hope i'm posting my questions in the correct place. You all seem lovely and this is a great forum to have found.

I'll give you a bit of info about us first.

I am 33. I currently work as a senior support worker & key worker (with 2 year's experience) to an individual with severe epilepsy, autism and more (poor fella!). I work for a company offering assisted living in residences to chaps with autism, challenging behaviour and mental health issues. There are also a couple of other guys that live in the house with assisted living. I am soon going to become a designate/deputy manager at the home i work in (my job to lose in the interview i've been told!) and i have a diploma level 3 that i'm about to complete and when i become a manager i will be doing level 5 (equivalent of an undergraduate degree in the UK i believe) , where a large percentage of the work will be transferrable from level 3. I'm not quite sure how level 3 & 5 compare to Aussie qualifications - advice on this would be great, things never seem clear on the ACWA website. My only other qualification is a BTEC National Diploma in Hospitality and Catering Management but after 12 years in that career i left it behind 5 years ago.

My fiancee, who will become my wife before we migrate, is a veterinary nurse and is 29 years old. Qualified and registered and with over 3 years experience which will become 4 by the time we apply. I think her qualification is diploma level 3 but she also has a BA Degree in a completely irrelevant topic! (Textiles).

My main questions are;

if i am the primary applicant what is the best role for me to apply with; welfare worker, disability services officer, residential care officer, youth worker, family support worker or even a welfare services manager as that is what i'll be soon. Most of these are available on a 489 in SA, Tasmania and NT or the various sponsorship visas and are on the STSOL list. The manager role is available as a 189/190 and my points may reach 60, and this is in the MLTSSL but i will lack experience as a manager and am only working toward the level 5 qualification in this.

Alternatively - My partner's role is on the STSOL and is available in the sponsorship visas and the 489 in SA, NT and Tasmania. However she has been told by a variety of companies that they can get her sponsorship in Australia and we are contacting them in January to get the ball rolling IF we go down this route. She explained the situation to them that i need to be on the visa and am over 30.

So we have a whole load of options that we need to narrow down to which one of us is to be the primary applicant - she would get more points than me if necessary and i'm thinking right now she may be best as the primary applicant unless i can apply as a Welfare Services Manager now - but i'm sceptical as to a level 3 diploma being enough for the skills assessment however my senior support role with 2 year's experience may offer enough work experience for it.

Help!

I'm waffling, thanks for reading and any advice is welcomed with big wide open arms!

This has been really helpful! My fiancee's occupation is available in SA on a 489 visa and we are definitely considering it. SA is our ideal destination but we may have to first come over on a 475/TSS visa as she has spoken to companies that have offered to organise sponsorship so that may have to be our "foot in the door." 

We visited Australia last Christmas and went to Noosa, Cairns (Port Douglas), Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide and Adelaide was my favourite place followed by Melbourne. I just loved how Adelaide had a smaller city kind of feel while having everything i want (sports, gigs venues, great food and a coastline!). 

Hopefully sponsorship may come in Adelaide but we've had Melbourne mentioned most.

Plan B though is my role as a senior support worker soon to be manager in a care home...in the new year we will begin the process.