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Hi! We are going to be moving to Australia in the New Year, we have a 4 year old and a 1 year old so we will need childcare for them while we're at work. I'm just wondering what kind of cost we are looking at for two kids in childcare? At the moment we pay £39 a day for each child at a private day nursery. Is it a similar amount in Australia?

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Hi TeacherClem

Thanks for response. I completely agree. It's so hard to know what to expect and very difficult to get to hear from teachers who have actually successfully made the move.
I don't doubt that it is challenging to find work as many claim, however to be told it is pretty impossible is very demoralising and I'm feeling pretty stuck about how to proceed.
I struggled to find my first teaching post in U.K, seven years ago and it was desperately competitive, but once in a school everything slotted into place. It's just the worry of arriving and struggling to find a job.
I would have thought that an international applicant would bring different skills that employers would find attractive and thus we would have some advantage in the job market?
All the best with your move.



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If you are heading to SA then the links I gave may prove useful. If you want to be in and around Adelaide and its greater metropolitan area then you can look at the school index and see where the schools are and research areas. You could work wise look as far south as Aldinga and beyond to Myponga, then east over towards Murray Bridge, Mannum and even further down south to Victor Harbor and still be able to live somewhere closer to Adelaide. Just commuting to the schools and towns for work. I'd personally not want to live in any of those towns apart from maybe Victor Harbor. Its much more town like and being on the coast means it gets plenty of tourists and has a busy feel to it and quite a lot of events. Going north you could go as far as Gawler perhaps? 
If you are a high school teacher and can teach either maths or science it would be a big help in terms of high school posts. They seem to have a bit of a shortage of those posts, even in the city area. Although this can of course change it seems to have been an issue for a few years now and I'm not hearing its improved massively. 
There is also a huge raft of private schools that if you have a great CV, experience and skills to bring to the table, could be worth applying to. 
Feel free to drop me a PM if you are heading to South Australia as am happy to chat about it and life here [emoji4]

I tend to agree with Quoll. Primary teachers are often over subscribed in built up areas and cities. Supply work is far from ideal (especially if you want to stay long term and things like buying a house will be on the to do list) and much depends on what area you are in, the school/s and if you can get a foot in the door. My local primary school has a stack (kid you not, its a very big pile) of supply teaching applications at the start of each school year. Teachers will sift out and find one or two they like to use (or have used in the past and got on well) with for their class and those will be the go to first and others probably won't get much of a look in. And that will be the case all year then most likely. I know someone who submitted their CV and has years of experience teaching and has other strings to their bow, they sent their CV to just about every school in a 20km radius. Only got phone calls from a handful of schools and actual work at 2 or 3 of them. Luckily they became one of those 'go to' teachers and had steady work after the first term and they got known at the school but it wasn't easy and they often didn't know till the morning if they would be working and often it was only 1 or 2 days a week or some such. 
There are so many home grown graduate teachers now and they tend to focus on the cities which of course leads to a big oversupply. And not as many teachers retiring and even if they do, their once permanent jobs are changed to 1 year contracts more often than not as the quota for permanent staff is reduced. So every year you could find yourself having to reapply for the following year (and perhaps not being considered, it does happen) or finding the job no longer exists anyways if the class numbers are down for that year group. Permanent posts are hard to come by and much sought after. People put in years on temp contracts and get no further. The uncertainty of supply work and short term temp isn't good for the mind in the long term I don't think. 
Working in remote or rural areas you can usually secure a job pretty quickly. I was talking to someone the other day who was complaining her son could not get a job locally but if he went and applied for a job in a rural town (hours and hours from anywhere the town is. I'd not do more than drive through it or stop for gas) there were 3 vacancies they could not fill plus a principal post that was still vacant. So few want to go work rural as they know what it entails and are put off. But apparently some of those schools can be rewarding but also hard work and living rural isn't for everyone. I'd not do it that's for sure. Even 3-4 hours from our city is too far for me. Its a whole lot of nothing in between. 
Also if you are prepared to consider the indexed lower ranked schools then that might be worth exploring. By ranked I mean this sort of thing linked to below. Not sure if all states have this or anything equating to it? Anyways, its a scale from 1-7. If you look at the 1, 2 or 3 bracket which are the more challenging schools then you may find possibilities. On this list please know that some will be rural/remote as it is state wide. However, there are plenty on the list that are showing 1, 2 and 3 on the scale that are in and around the city or outer lying suburbs of it. 

You can read about it here first https://www.decd.sa.gov.au/sites/g/files/net691/f/educational_disadvantage_index_explanation.pdf
Then see the list here https://www.decd.sa.gov.au/sites/g/files/net691/f/index_of_educational_disadvantage_by_school_2012.pdf
 
 

Don't believe me, try it from people on the ground http://www.theteachersareblowingtheirwhistles.com/therearenojobs.htm
CRT isn't a good long term option for most people. I really would recommend a change of career if you are a primary teacher, especially an experienced one because you are more expensive than a new graduate. Most teachers have a wealth of other skills which are relatively more marketable. I'd actually be doing a cert iv in training and assessment (and you get RPL for qualifications) and looking at adult training. 
 

Hi Yikes

Thanks so much for your reply. I haven't taught a language but if needs must I'm sure I could take on a mantle in school, as you say teaching it at KS2.

I wonder do you have a job lined up already or are you planning on looking for one when you get to Oz?

I'm disheartened by advice such as Quoll above who say there are no jobs as primary teachers are heavily oversubscribed. What is your experience of finding work?

Thank you for any further help as I'm feeling really down and confused at present as a Primary teacher trying to get to Oz. x



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Any ideas how long it has taken in the past to be assigned a co? We haven't had medicals or police checks done yet because of the wait on visas so won't be a straight grant for us. Just wondering how long it might take to hear from someone.
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I think ours took 10 weeks to get the certificate back but it's usually between 10-12 weeks. We got an email first saying the decision was being posted out to us. They didn't tell us we had passed the assessment in the email, just that it was being sent!


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The next one will be 12th August. I'm not sure about automatic invites, but I know they have a cap on how many invites they send out each time and you're in a pool so against those with higher points than you. Fingers crossed for the 12th for you ?


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And is that for all occupations on the list ?


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Iv had an invitation to apply for 189 visa via skill select however when I log into my immi account it's not showing my application- even though iv started it. Is there another way to access this application other than going via skill select email every time as it's not saving information I have input? (Hope this makes sense) thanks in advance
 
 
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65 points. Messed up my reading part of the English test, rushed it! :-(((

Do you know when the round invites happen ?


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So glad to find a teachers post - how long did you guys wait for an invite ? We submitted EOI beginning July and haven't heard anything - getting worried !


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Here is the official souce - https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/189-

Now that visa processing times have increased for 189 visas, many of us who submitted in Feb/March will be pushed to make the activation entry.

Should have said that the entry date to activate the visas is usually one year from the date of the medicals so you may want to take that into account if you're front loading. 

I'm Social Subjects too. Faculty includes History, Geography and Modern Studies. Most Scottish schools have gone to a faculty head system rather than single subjects to save money on promoted posts. It's a tough shift! I'd be quite happy to go back to the classroom full time in Oz. 
Got my sights set on putting notice in to leave at Christmas if Visa is granted before October. Here's hoping! 

Yes mate, another teacher here. Currently faculty head in Glasgow Secondary School. Application went in 3rd May. Medicals and PCC done. Just waiting to hear. Hoping to head to southern QLD. Doing my QTC application this week in fact. 
Good luck!

Make sure it's a Credit Card with a limit, and then a daily spend limit that covers enough, and then some, of the fee.
I tried paying with a Debit Card with more than enough to cover the fee on it only to be told that my bank only allow 90% of that fee due, per day, as a max spend.
Would have been majorly caught out if I was close to the 60 day application deadline. 
Advise making any payment early to allow for any banking issues. Oh, and tell hubby currency conversion fees are the least of his migration cost worries. 
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Thats how most people pay [emoji4] DIBP don't accept envelopes full of used notes ....!!!

My husband is stressing that we're going to get charged loads because we are paying by credit card and it's charged in a foreign currency. I know there is a charge with our card but it's a normal thing to pay by credit card isn't it? We're not totally crazy for using a credit card are we??! [emoji38]

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Yeh I'm a maths secondary teacher, just starting to get everything together! Well actually I need to pass my English test first! I'm going through and agent and they said you need all documents certified by someone does that mean even if they have official stamps on them? 

 

Rach 

For the skills assessment just get your headteacher at the school you're at to do it. We did it all ourselves and it was fine having the head certify them.

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My wife and I are both teachers and submitted on April 26. Still waiting to hear anything but hopefully things will start moving shortly. There are a few others on here in a similar position. Good luck.


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