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We  did bring our Shar Pei another snub nose dog and he was and is fine 

He was only 3 years old though and could not transit in Dubai from end f May until i think August because of his bree 

On 30/11/2018 at 17:22, Quoll said:

Honestly? No, it won't get any easier. You're always going to be an only child - and that sux when you're considering your life on the other side of the world regardless of whether your parents don't handle it very well or not. In fact, it sux full stop especially when your parents age.

I was in your position 30 years ago, sort of. Only child, only grandchildren but my parents bit the bullet and decided they would come and visit us for 6 months every year and that worked quite well for 16 years until they just got too old and the travel insurance got to expensive and they began to ail. They thought about staying in Australia but, quite rightly, they thought they wanted their old age in the life that they had built over decades with their own social group. 

I coped then by visiting every 9 months or so, one of my kids, now grown, moved to UK (well, he actually never returned from his holiday) so he was at least in the same country. Seeing them get more and more frail and bawling my eyes out on the train every time I left them was very hard even though I am a hard hearted Hannah. Then came the day when I managed to drag my Aussie husband over (he hated to come) for our son's wedding and he took one look at my parents (the wheels fell off the wagon the week we arrived) and said "we can't leave them here alone" so we have stayed. None of us thought it would be 7 years and mum died last year so now we care for dad. 

When I left initially I didn't give my parents a single thought and they never guilted me as I have never guilted my kids but I do know where your parents are coming from - being a grandparent on the other side of the world sux. Personally I don't find Skype or FT that enjoyable - when the kids are little they would rather be off playing than talking to some adult they don't know who lives in a box then when they are older having a chat with an old person is boring and I defy anyone to get a cuddle over Skype! One of my granddaughters was very little when we left and she really had no idea who I was when I got my first trip back to Aus after 3 years - the old lady she talked to on the computer wasn't a real person she knew no matter how many chats. I'm not condoning for one minute the guilt trip your parents are putting on you but they're grieving and one of the stages of grief is anger - they're doing with it the only way they know how and is probably not just their grandchild but knowing they won't be there for the wedding of their little girl. Expect emotionality! 

A few words of warning - can your fiance get citizenship before you go (if he doesn't have it already) because if you do need to come back, the spouse visa is a killer. Secondly, read up and thoroughly understand the implications of the Hague Convention - if your relationship goes belly up then chances are you will never be allowed to leave Australia with your kids (there is a long sticky thread on here somewhere). Thirdly, personally I would avoid going back to "his place" - move to the same country but not in his family's back pocket then your little family is on a level playing field with you both having to make new friends and connections (he's probably feeling the pinch now and resenting being so close to your parents when his parents are missing a grandchild!). Others don't agree with that and they get on fine with their in laws (as do I) but I've had many messages on this and other boards from English women who've not necessarily found their Aussie husband's mob to be all that they could be and their mate changed when in his own environment.

Bottom line, it's your life and you'll have to be selfish and self reliant and live with your decision but cut your parents some Slack and go with your eyes wide open. Either country is going to offer your daughter great opportunities so look at the real reasons you are thinking of going. Good luck! 

Well said Quoll the pain when leaving my Mam and Dad never ever went away and to this day even though my parents have passed away now I still live regrets and what if xxx

Lucy I was in this position years ago but luckily my parents never ever put the guilt trip on us 

My children were 14 and 15 I was an only child and my parents the only Grandparents my children had as my hubbys parents died quite young

It was the hardest thing I have done in my life We used to go back regularly as my Dad had a stroke not long after we emigrated 

My Dad passed away in 1995 aged 87 after that it was an annual trip for us to see my Mam 

In 2001 we moved back to UK leaving my kids and grandkids ( Aussies ) in Oz I just could not handle the problems my Mam was having with her health etc 

God love her she survived until she was almost 100 - we then came back to Oz

During our time from 2001 she finally told me how hard it had been for them -that they sat holding hands for days and crying feeling so lost without us She was not putting the guilt trip on me she just needed to talk about it

You have some very hard decisions to make and I truly hope it all works out well for you xx

Our boy was fine by the way he is a Shar Pei had never been in kennels or a cage for that matter and they are notorious for stressing He didnt I did !

We used Jetpets to fly our boy to Adelaide went without a hitch -until her heard my voice when we picked him up from the aiport and howled the place down lol

We still have a joint account thats been open a long time -our UK pensions go into that account and we transfer them whenever I also have a UK Mastercard no annual fees but handy in an emergency We also have an overdraft if needed and yes the bank has out Aussie address I would not dream of closing it down its a bonus to keep

Think she is just looking at all eventualities really hopefully the house will sell quickly anyway and eliminate her concerns - I think we all know English house sales can be very slow ( I do lol )

Thanks Marissa that's appreciated I know I had read it 'somewhere" but could not find it again lol 

I think shes just worried the house does not sell for ages and she might have to go sort something out ie rent it 

On ‎02‎/‎09‎/‎2018 at 13:53, newjez said:

You probably want to see an accountant.

It might not be as bad as you think.

What Centrelink benefit are you claiming have you looked on their website to see how much you are allowed to earn before you start loosing $ off the benefit ?

My Grandaughter works seasonally and claim benefit during the times she is off work -then when she goes back to work its usually intermittent so she stays on benefit but informs them 2 weekly of what hours she has worked and how much she has earned Then Centrelink gives her a part payment until such time as she is working full time again

What I am saying is you never know but what you are getting in rent for the UK house if you declare it you might still get part Centrelink 

Am asking for a friend who is planning to move back to Oz permanently  -she is an Australian citizen and I think she would be eligible  to claim a Centrelink pension 

I know she has to be in Oz to claim the pension but trying to establish once she claims is there a time limit before she can travel back overseas and is there a time limit on how long she can stay overseas ?

She is a tad concerned that her house in the UK does not sell quickly and she might have to go to and fro in the interim 

I have tried to look on the Centrelink site but cant seem to find specifics ?

Any help would be appreciated

That's great news bet you shed tears I did We could see Ralphy in his crate being ferried into the pick up point The guy sang out I have got Ralphy ( pronounced it wrong lol ) I said its Rarfy and boy did that set him off barking hello 

22 hours ago, Move2oz said:

We brought our Shar Pei over another Bracheleptic breed - he could not have flown between May and I think August because of the heat on the ground ie airport in Dubai We flew our boy with Golden Arrow and they were great Bob at Petair has a really good reputation too Our boy has settled well just stays indoors when its hot Costs were about 2300 gbp for a short stay in GA kennels in the UK then the flight to Melbourne $1700 for quarantine and $260 to fly him to Adelaide Plus cost of rabies and other injections etc 

Hi I’m trying to get a idea of how much in total it will be to ship our 3 year old English bulldog over from the uk, will probably be flying out of Manchester, so from start to finish- price to include vets, flight, quarantine etc, any answers will be greatly appreciated,

Also has anyone brought a English bulldog over, ? If so how did it manage and how does it manage in the heat? Ours is pretty fit and healthy so been ok with our summer this year, we obviously don’t walk midday, we’ll normally go first thing before it’s to warm.

Many thanks

I must admit when Ralphy our Pei came out of quarantine he had lost weight and his coat was daggy - I put it down to him maybe being stressed but having read your remarks I am thinking bad nutrition was the cause 

Hard call really but I know IF you go back to the UK and don't get a full Centrelink pension the UK will give you credits for work done in Oz but not sure if that was only up until 2001 when the reciprocal agreement ended We get full Centrelink pensions and part UK around 100 GBP  a week as we emigrated in 1982 and we don't loose a lot from the Centrelink pension The criteria for keeping full Centrelink pensions in the UK is 35 years working life in Oz between the age of 16 and retirement 

On 08/06/2018 at 20:38, Davo453 said:

We are in the south midlands, Golden arrow are doing a quote for us now but they are i believe slowing things down after many years in the business.

We used Golden Arrow and they were brilliant - we had left our boy with them in the UK and were on the way to Oz when our vet rang me to say they had lost a blood test - we had done the vet work etc Frantic emails to GA saw them do new tests courier them off to Weybridge ( think thats right ) and get our boy on his scheduled flight I would have been panic stricken if GA had not sorted it so well We have a Shar Pei by the way  known for anxiety etc but he was fine 

On 05/06/2018 at 05:26, Phil1712 said:

Hi which company did you use?

We used Golden Arrow and could not fault them -our vet lost a last  minute blood test but GA pulled out all the stops and  got it sorted in ashort deadline -phew

On 23/05/2018 at 05:27, Phil1712 said:

Hi we have just started the process to obtain 189 visa. 

We have a cavachon who Is  just under a year old, and was wondering if we should take him?. 

We don't like the idea that he will be in quarantine for 10 days once he arrives, and we don't get to see him when he lands. We are looking to settle in Perth, but my understanding is there is no quarantine centres there, so he will need to travel again once quarantine is over. We don't really want to put him through all that stress. But we really don't want to leave him behind.

Is there anyone that can advise us on the process. Any advice would be appreciated.

 

Our Shar Pei travelled well 2 years ago and they are noted for being anxious Just make sure you get a company to move him that has the experience to do things in case of hitches 

On 31/05/2018 at 17:47, The Pom Queen said:

To be honest we stress more than our pets. I know you have set your mind on driving between Melbourne and Adelaide but it would probably be less stressful flying. I worked in the veterinary/behaviour/quarantine industry for a number of years and to be honest I feel the quickest/direct route with the least disruption is better for the dog/cat.

Ive also driven with mine on 3 day car journeys and to be honest they sulk all the way.

I say all this but I’d be camping out at quarantine myself waiting lol.

I agree a short flight probably wont phaze your dog at all Our Shar Pei a breed notorious for anxiety etc was fine -stopover in Dubai then on to Melbourne Flown to Adelaide once through quarantine It was me who was the wreck

Most furniture is treated so would not get fumigated But we had a Santa  with a wooden wand and we were told destroy which was free or fumigate about $80 Santa was only worth 5 quid 

It was the cost of steam cleaning our car blew us away but had to be done or no car 

On 18/04/2018 at 12:18, snifter said:

Once the dog is in the crate and handed over, its the airline and airport staff shipping them etc. There isn't going to be any difference really there as the dog will be in a crate for the journey. There are a few main pet shippers in Aus and you are probably best contacting all of those direct to get quotes and find out about what services they offer. 

JetPets and Dogtainers are two that spring to mind. 

I'd be concerned at the size of the dog and its type with regards to shipping long haul more than anything.  If she is really timid and nervous are you confident she'll cope with the 24 hours plus flying and in transit etc. Also they are big heavy dogs and no idea how they go generally in a crate for long periods. I'd do some research and see what people say they are like shipping and if there are any known issues the breed can suffer in transit (ie for snub nosed breeds its overheating and breathing problems). For a dog that size it could be overheating or some such. Also check the time of year you plan to fly, the route and any time on the ground in say Dubai (can be stinking hot there at certain times of the year for example). 

 

 

 

We shipped our Shar Pei classed as a brachyleptic breed and he was fine but could not be shipped between I think it was May -August because of the heat in Dubai ( the stop off point ) Pei are also quite anxious -in the end it was me that was anxious our boy was fine

On 27/03/2018 at 07:26, Cameron2310 said:

Hi guys,

I'm planning on flying my dogs over at the end of the year. I looked at the  agriculture.gov.au site at time lines to visit the vet etc. It says you need to get a vet to write a note to confirm what you'e done at each appointment, ie to confirm they scanned for microchip and vaccinated against rabies, my vet said he doesn't need to give me a note as everything will be logged on the computer, did anyone else get their vet to write a letter each time they visited the VET?

My next question is, one of my dogs is 9, I'm taking her for a pet mot to make sure she' healthy to fly. Does anyone have any stories of flying senior dogs over to Australia and if so, how did it GO?

 

Thanks 

You need to follow the Australian guidelines step by step otherwise your dog wont get there ! Your vet is so wrong in what he says Is he a UK government authorised vet if not then anything you have done so far is invalid again you need that little rubber stamp on the documents We had documented proof of everything from microchip desexing etc plus the lab report from the rabies titre test to see if it has taken My advice would be contact a reputable pet shipping company and get some sound advice I tried very hard to follow the rules step by step only to have my vet stuff up and loose our boys final blood test ! Talk about panic we had left the UK he was at the shipping company Golden Arrow who luckily pulled out all the stops got his bloods redone and couriered to the lab so he made his flight Our boy is a  Shar Pei and i was worried over him travelling but he did it fine 

Orange -years ago my daughter had an orange jazz band uniform our Cocker hated the Gazoo her band instrument

I bought an orange dress came downstairs in it dog ran a mile 

On 02/02/2018 at 15:50, snifter said:

It’s sinple enough via her Mum I’d have thought. Why make more work if she doesn’t have to.

https://www.gov.uk/overseas-passports

 

Its actually not that simple Snifter and I am not one for making work its just we have a complicated situation - as a family we have no contact with my daughter for very personal reasons

I checked the application website for my grandaughter  and it asked for my both my daughters passport details and her ex partners

We dont have passport details for either

My grandaughters Father is Australian but we have no contact and dont know if he ever had a passport 

My daughters  passport along with her residents visa was lost years ago and never replaced I do however have my daughters birth certificate -she was born in 1965

Thats why i thought it might be easier via us -the grandparents as we have current UK passports and birth certs etc

Our Australian born granddaughter wants to apply for her British passport 

Her mother our daughter is british born we have her birth certificate but not her UK passport which was lost years ago and never renewed Our daughter does not have Australian citizenship by the way she is a permanent resident though

Bith Hubby and I still have British passports that are current plus our Aussie ones 

would it be easier for our granddaughter to apply by double descent 

her father was Australian and he and my daughter did not marry

On 28/12/2017 at 03:14, Mbandvb said:

Lovely to hear that you pup is settled now in Oz! Our Labrador hasn't ever been in kennels or a crate either so puts my mind a rest hearing this

Did quarantine contact you at all during your dogs stay?

 

Just an email to say he was ok and peeing on grass as he will not pee on concrete lol