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8 minutes ago, Keith and Linda said:
If they feel passionate enough about representing Australian people and passing laws for Australia, then they should be passionate about being an Australian and abide by Australian laws/rules/regulations.
Not sure if you're talking about the Queen or aspiring politicians who are dual nationals...
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25 minutes ago, Roberta2 said:
Someone at an Immigration law firm had a rush of blood to the head??? Saw it as a way to get some good publicity and drum up business in a competitive market?
I totally think that was the case.
Apparently someone first tried to reach Slater and Gordon, the law firm behind the class action for Manus Island detainees. The law firm declined taking on a class action for the changes on Citizenship legislation, most probably because they found there's no grounds for it.
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Love your thoughtful insights into aussie politics, Roberta2
I do learn a lot from your posts!
It came as a surprise to me that the Government decided to do the Bill readings this June, wasn't expecting to see some action until the end of the year as they put it on the "Strengthening the Requirements..." paper back in April. Did they expect to have support from the Labor party right away and hence a smooth pass of the Bill through the Senate? Do these changes have anything to do with Dutton's alleged ambitions to replace Malcolm Turnbull? He seems to be showing off some muscle, appealing to -I guess- a certain demographic of anti-immigration voters in QLD.
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Just now, Roberta2 said:
Canada seems to be six years.
Canada just voted to reduce it to 3 years as a PR: http://www.canadavisa.com/news/bill-c6-passes-quicker-transition-canadian-citizenship-immigrants.html
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41 minutes ago, Roberta2 said:
I recently met a Greek lady who has been here for six decades, and barely speaks English. She lives in inner Brisbane where there are still enough Greek speakers so that she has never felt the need to learn English. This does of course mean she is isolated as far as the wider community is concerned- not sure how well she can communicate with her own grandchildren. She is so old now that she will be exempt from any testing. But we need to do better - both in requiring higher levels of English, and providing more resources to help people.
The old lady probably had to work her ass off all her life and had little to no means to learn the language. A friend's mother, Vietnamese-born, she can't read English and she barely speaks the language, after 40 years in the country. She's lived most of her life in Cabramatta and simply never needed to learn more English. She brought up three children who are now adults and all three are quite successful in their careers, are fully integrated in the broader community and speak English with an aussie accent, while they still speak Vietnamese with their family. Isn't that the multicultural success the Government likes to brag about? Laws have changed a lot in these 40 years but an English exam as a requirement back then would've probably put her out of the system and who knows, maybe my friend and her siblings wouldn't be here. As much as I don't really see the need for it to be a requirement, I am all in for providing more resources to help people, as I understand language is fundamental to engage with the broader community and minimise the risk of isolation.
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55 minutes ago, Roberta2 said:
It's normal practice. Both major parties do it when in government, and it won't change. It is not backdating, because they announced on 20th April that applications made after 20 April would not be processed until a new law was in place. There are only three sitting days left in this parliamentary session after today- although it's not unlikely both houses will sit on Friday because there is a raft of contentious bills still going through, of which the proposed change to citizenship laws is only one. If the government makes enough concessions to meet ALP concerns, the Senate will be irrelevant. That applies to all these bills, of course.
I fail to understand the rush in this particular case, though. What makes today's circumstances different to back when the Citizenship Act 2007 was passed and a 3-year transition period was provisioned for then PR holders?
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- 355 staff have gone from department's visa and citizenship section since the beginning of the financial year
- Growth in visa applications has bigger impact on waiting times than staff cuts, Mr Pezzullo says
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19 hours ago, Parley said:
That is not backdating.
This happens regularly, most usually on budget night but other times too where changes are announced effective immediately with the changes formally enacted later but effective from the date of announcement.
If people were eligible to apply before the 20th April then they probably should have done so when eligible as rules can and do change.
Under the Australian Citizenship Act 2007, applicants who were Permanent Residents before 1 July 2007 could still apply for citizenship if they met the old Residence Requirements (2 years vs the then newly introduced 4 year requirement), for applications until 30 June 2010. This, to me, sounds like a fair course of action.
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15 hours ago, dredg97 said:
Backdating basing on an announcement without even a Bill drafted doesn't seem the norm to me.
Avalanche of applications? Only those meeting the residency requirements would be eligible, therefore I don't see any increase in the volume of applications if the retrospective nature of the proposal will be dropped.
Labor is against certain aspects and I have personally received responses in this direction from MPs and senators from their party.
Time will tell if this will become law or not, for the moment the above is just your speculation.
totally agree with you @dredg97
In conversations with friends since the new rules were announced, probably the most controversial aspect of the changes is their retrospective nature. The argument I keep hearing to support that measure is that this way the Government is preventing an avalanche of applications but that to me simply doesn't stack up.
"There's a lot of people who've been on a PR for several years and they would apply for citizenship if they see their strengthening the requirements in the near future" I've heard. Well, if they've been here for several years (ie 4+) they can still be eligible under the new rules. Applying under the old rules would save them a "tougher" exam and the new English test and proofs of integration into the Community. Aside from the English test fees, the rest is a pure formality for the average applicant.
So, to date, I really haven't heard of anything convincing from the proponents of the changes that supports the retrospective nature of them.
I understand that Citizenship is a privilege, and as such, at the end of the day, it is given at the Minister's discretion. However, I consider the retrospective nature of the changes utterly unfair and, as far as I know, uncommon, looking at how Residency requirements and these type of changes were dealt with in previous changes to Citizenship Legislation.
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On 5/10/2017 at 13:57, hope2017 said:
Application dates : 30 April 2017 (online)
Acknowledgment Letter : 30 April and receipt received
State/Council : Sydney (NSW)
Test Date received : ...
Test Date : 21 June ...hi @hope2017! So what was your situation when you applied? how long have you been on PR?
Good luck!
Cheers!
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hi everyone!
just got the most awaited e-mail in years... IMMI Grant Notification!
First of all, thank you to everyone in this forum for the great advice and help your messages mean to so many people.
I've been through a lot this year and the waiting was getting really tiresome lately. I sincerely wish all the best to everyone waiting so you all can get your PR promptly.
Here's to new beginnings!
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slow day, wasn't it? :dull:
how many did we see today? the one from the Carpenter in QLD... anyone else?
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its every year,I.e first year in 2013 , s!cond yea in 2014. and now you are applying 186 in 2015. we again need to pay for third year as we are still in 457. that's what our employerdid he had paid thrice
2nd12th
You're right mate, I probably mixed that up with what my Company was asked by our MA.
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Hello Guys,
need help if someone knows about training bench mark, as business got approval on 29 May 2013 to and first training was done before that in April 2013, 457 visa approved in August, then all the trainings were done in June thinking that got to get done before financial year, Now could this be a issue.
as far as I know the training benchmarks must be met for the two years you've been under the 457 Visa. In your case I assume August 2013 through to August 2014 and August 2014 through to August 2015, if you applied in, say, August or September 2015. If you're applying now, then your company should meet the requirements for the two years from May 2014 to May 2015 and May 2015 to May 2016.
That's what I was told by my MA.
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40 days since doc submitted
Oh lord
You're almost there!
What's your TL, mate? can't find you on the spreadsheet.
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Congratulations Ali and kichak! Slow but steady progress from the department, please get on to November! I'm just hoping that there are no document requests!! It's taking long enough for those without any requests.
Haven't heard anything and still the same "Application Received" status since I lodged my Application. Seriously, it would be a joke if they requested more documents after this long.
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Please someone update the excel sheet. I think @roxyp17 will do.
Congrats!!! I'm sure you'll be happy to update your signature as well
it's great to know you didn't need those guns in the end haha
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just wondering,Anyone who applied in november files opened ?
my timeline
nomm 10th nov 2015
visa 16th nov 2015
At least three November applications for TRT have been approved already, according to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kY0XVAWzNjXAxAHC5-PPol_h4Lyl_wcz66c7BUelvXc/edit?usp=sharing
Although officially, according to their auto-response e-mail, they are allocating files from late September.
Good luck for everyone waiting!
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Bro my co worker got 457 visa after 8 months .....so dont worry u will get it soon
8 months for a 457 Visa? I remember back in the old days (2013) getting my 457 in a couple of weeks... don't know what or why but something's been really messed up at IMMI/DIBP lately.
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Is it a good idea to get health examination done before lodging visa application? or is it just better to wait and see if case officer would want a health check done?
I'm not 100% sure you can do it before lodging your Visa application but you definitely should get the health examinations done soon. The CO will definitely ask for it if you haven't done it and not having it done will only delay the process.
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I hve applied on 4th january.Nomination approved on 12th january.Then they ask for the medical on 13th january.In march they ask the employer for papers and he send them within one weak.After that I did not hear anything from immigration.
how can they approve a Nomination in just 8 days and ask your employer for more documents a couple of months later? it really makes no sense to me.
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My immi account doesn't open why anybody have any idea? It's been 10th time in half an hour.
My timeline- nom&visa-11 /11/2015.
same here, they're actually showing this message on the login screen:
UNPLANNED SYSTEM OUTAGE
Please be advised that ImmiAccount is currently unavailable due to an unplanned technical outage. We are currently working to fix the problem. We apologise for any inconvenience and advise you to try again later.
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Super(very important), FORM80
did they ask you for your Superannuation records? it's the first time I've heard of that requirement...
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thanks bud, but the pic is too small, can't read the detail. can you post the link?
there you go:
I do learn a lot from your posts!
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