shiveringpom

189 is fine to do yourself if  you  got skills assessment done/aphra registration  done as a GP - we did our own but i already had aphra registration and skills assessment done on prev visas - and you need enough points to make the cut  regardless of job ....  age/english language skills do affect points etc  .....

dont forget 10yr moratorium  ruling for overseas doctors  which bans you from working in certain areas/city areas 

Dental hygienists and dental therapists with a non-approved qualification

If a dental hygienist or dental therapist holds overseas qualifications and is not registered in New Zealand then they can:

• complete an approved qualification, or
• undertake the assessment process overseen by the Australian Dental Council (ADC).
  
  Information about this pathway to registration in Australia for overseas qualified practitioners can be found on the ADC’s website.

last time my UK trained sister looked into it she had to resit exams ......looks like first you need to fill in the ADC forms for a skills assessment to tell u what they want/need to register you here 

as a doctor from UK u need to get Aphra registration done first if applying for PR 189/190 visa...... we did our own PR 189  visa  ( my aphra was already in place tho  and iam on specilist register  which again makes life easier )  having had several TR  visas over yrs . If you are a specialist  each college has its own pathway aswell... tbh the easiest route is via a doctor recruitment service esp for first applications etc as they literally take you thro the process step by step  and list everything u have to provide at certain times  and can  get you a job if needed  ....... you need lots of crazy paperwork and proof . I have used HEAD medical before  and i have to say they provided an excellent service . If u want to work as an SHO/Reg  u can go direct thro the hospitals and they could sponsor your visa  but i have no idea how long that is taking  . I do know of some hospital UK doctors  getting faster processing  to work in hospital system here in Brisbane . I would seek adv from specialist  doctor recruitment firm as can be quite complex .

11 hours ago, Tulip1 said:

Does it matter?   Why be flustered? I wouldn’t care less if they wanted to do a police check on me.

i was in a fluster as i had forgotten some paperwork on sitting down at the desk  altho it didnt matter as it was all online and she didnt care i didnt have original -   not the police check itself  - that was just a genuine query as thought didnt need one  by time got to citizenship stage -not that it mattered as all approved now and finally at end of road - hurrah ! x

21 hours ago, Dips123 said:

Guys

any one knows about the citizenships test and approval time , Me and my wife had test together at nov 2 At Sydney city , my wife application was approved  4 hours after the test but my one is still received . Guys Anyone knows why this happened. Thank you 

same for us, we tested on same day in brisbane  and all straight forward application altho i have 2 kids attached to mine ..... yet  husband approved and got letter of approval within post within few days  and i have nothing still at 4 weeks ...... no idea why some get approved pretty much instantly and others linger on ......... would love to know why ? slow case officer?  ......wonder whats longest someone waited for approval ???? you think it would all be prompt and straight forward 

i just said not available as online , passports dont get stamped -not for years ( from UK )  - not a problem in our application nor an issue at interview and test a few weeks ago in Brisbane - dont worry x

i wondered if random selection perhaps ?   as i note some people seem to get switched to 'approved' very quickly and others stay as 'received' for longer despite passing test / interview  even from the same family groups  sitting them on the same days even ? 

10 minutes ago, vickyplum said:

it was my understanding (roughly! - I can't quote exact details or paragraphs of text ) that if you're been in Aus for most of the period leading to your application/test etc, the police check is done for you (ie, what you've mentioned above) and if you've spent a lot of time outside of the country, you may be asked obtain a check from that country, which I think you have to organise for yourself.

 

I guess they don't want to be awarding citizenship to anyone with a serious mark on their record (which I suppose could easily between the last police check being done for visa and 'now').

I don't think it's  a new process anyway

 

EDIT: found this - scroll down to "For Citizenship applications": https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-text/evidence/Pages/et-h0009.aspx

 

we havent been out of the country and thats why i am confused ?  iam aware of that rule  wrt time out etc  so all seems a bit odd? 

our last police checks were done for PR  application from UK  ....... 

iam a boring middle aged  lady  with no  master criminal activity  as yet 

they mentioned it to my husband aswell at his test and interview but he got an approval letter within a week so not sure if they actually did one on him ?  strange .....

Ok so just want to clarify if this is new norm ....

Sat test and interview Brisbane  City 9/10/20...... all quick and straight forward 

At end of test she said " we will now trigger your police check " ..... i was in a fluster and didnt really think about it and just left  but on reflection  i thought ?eh

I didnt think checks where done after this point 

Is this normal ? does everyone now get them ?  i wish i had asked why  now  ...... any thoughts ? x 

On 18/09/2019 at 16:45, pavy said:

Hi 

Have you got your citizenship?

sadly not- we got an email 19 months after literally nothing  whatsoever from them saying there was an error with our application and to apply again ......fatal error on our part but it took them 19 months to tell us about it sadly so we are back to the start again...... we should be citizens by time 4year RRV runs out  maybe ???? or maybe not at this rate x

28 minutes ago, Bamborabi said:

Shivering Pom, I am really shivering now. Very long wait..Wonder why ? 2019 folks are also getting approvals.  2017/18 applications are the ones who are suffering due to this Ridiculous process followed by IMMI.

its the lack of any contact that is a pain in the ass.....almost 20 months and just literally nothing ....no request for info/no emails/no calls just a black hole of nothingness.....saying that we still have 4 months left to get a test/get approved and get a cermony before we go over 24months wait .....after that i go to the press and PM 

even just to get a test date would be nice ........ if we were complex or were being asked for more info i could understand but just nothing  whatsoever .....i will have another whine when we hit 20months on 2/9  and another one at 21 months and so on ........but trust me when we get that magic ticket to go for the test there will be a massive party !

51 minutes ago, Bamborabi said:

Anyone here in this forum has applied for citizenship via the Sub Class 309/100 Spouse Visa route ? Can you please share your timelines. Does the approval for folks applying through this route take longer ?

Regards,

Bamborabi

 

visa class shouldnt affect citizenship application , when you have done your time as  PR you can apply ...

we are 189 PR visa  to citizenship  so very straight forward and still waiting from 1/18 to even sit a test ........  

56 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

Given the evidence, this sounds like the most likely explanation 

sadly our application has everything , i could understand if we were complex or had received requests for more info ..... our application is simplest one they can get ..... but maybe they assume as living here/RRV in place/nothing complex its just been dumped somewhere  ......  my work mate applied 1/19 and got test date for 10/19 brisbane city  so you can see why we get a bit disheartened/ frustrated  at times  

when it comes thro there will be a party on this forum ! 

we applied 1/18 brisbane city

application says 'received' 2/1/18........................ nothing since what so ever 

we are one of these applications that seems to have just been shelved......

we are almost 20 months now but obv 'still within processing times'

whenever we call or email just get same response - WAIT !  and no news is good news  they say  if not been asked for anything extra then sadly we are just in a long line of applications they say ........ oh and then they add 'we can see your application and everything is in order ......

we are a straight forward UK family of 4 going from PR 189 to citizenship  without any issues......living here patiently  .......altho everynow and then i like a good moan .....  

until we go over the 90% of cases  at 24 months extreme timeline for no obv reason they adv not a lot they can do  but then go official thro the complaints/ombudsmon service ?????

they still have 4 months to get us a test date-approve us and get us thro a  ceremony  ........ 

has anyone actually gone over 2 years tho yet ??????

3 minutes ago, Indianinoz said:

I heard that they're routing the new applications through the new system which is quicker whereas the ones in 2017 and early 2018 are still being processed by the old system which is slower. The process remains the same, only the processing time has reduced. This is what I read at a few places.

ok so if thats true that could explain my wait of over 19 months and no test even - we got 'received ' 2/1/18..... i will remain ever patient in the heap of other long waiting applicants .....just a bit jarring when others get approved super quick   so one cant help but get paranoid 

40 minutes ago, Indianinoz said:

Thanks, OK whenever the new system started, is it substantially quicker? Say for example someone who will apply in 2019 soon, is it reasonable to expect that there are good chances the application will be approved and ceremony hosted within 12 months? Of course, no guarantee but expected timeline is what I'm after.

what do you mean by the new system ?

On 07/08/2019 at 14:10, 07Nov2017 said:

21 Months today since the lodgement of my Citizenship application and still waiting...

we are over 19 months now and still nothing  , just says 'received' 

not even done test

i have rang and sent emails  now etc but always just same answer....  not until go over 24 months are they overly concerned  and even then they didnt know what i should do if we get as far as that .......  just wait they say ......

FOI can be triggered anytime 

6 hours ago, KPFAM09 said:

Hi.. We applied for citizenship online June 2018. Still waiting, no other updates, immiaccount recieved. Any other people waiting like me. Which way the Test call will be, by Email or mail or only in immiaccount.

we are waiting from 2/1/18  Brisbane city application !

we are now beyond 19 months and no test date even.....application just says received .....

i think we may qualify for longest wait at this point on this forum  so take comfort in knowing there are other out there waiting even longer for no obvious  reason !!! 

we should probably start a new thread for the lost application bunch  lol  

56 minutes ago, supertoblerone said:

Does it mean you can anytime and you can make a request 2 times or 3 times while waiting for your application to be approved if you believed it is stuck somewhere?

you can call as much as you want and email as much as you want   but  until go over wait times you will get standard answer  of being within processing times.....  i have just started to trigger  emails etc at 19 months and nothing happened other than 'received'  but  i expect nothing in return  . 

i have called the hotline and they have looked into my case there and then on the phone  to ensure all in order.... they always just say still in processing but as no requests for anything in 19 months that is good news and just have to wait ... they can see my application/file or whatever it is they look at and say ' just wait ' so all a bit fruitless 

they did advice if we go beyond 24 months  from application received date then thats more strange/interesting/not normal  and we could trigger formal complaints lodgement ?...... 

fingers crossed we dont reach that point lol 

trying to just sit back and wait ........ if no requests for more info then all must be ok is our mantra - altho nothing left to give them at this point ......

1 hour ago, 07Nov2017 said:

 

 

Had test done in October 2018 and they asked for birth certificate in December 2018 which was provided to immigration with in a week. Ever since then not a sound. None

 

 

i feel your pain..... we are 19 months and not even done the test yet and not a word either ..... all just so random x

11 minutes ago, LAG said:

Hi millski88, yes I feel lucky. So it is me and my wife, linked applications (both got invitations on Friday). Our history is similar to yours, we had two 457s and then moved on to a 186 that was approved last year. This year as soon as we met the residency requirement we applied for citizenship. Low risk country.  

not jealous at all lol , interestingly my work colleugue - non uk-  who  applied on her own  this yr  got invite for test within 6 months for brisbane  ( her kids and husband got citizenship already ) ...maybe i should ditch the kids ?? lol

ps its people right to leave the country and return to uk or move to another country of course when they get the passport - in todays global economy i totally get that ... just in case misinterpreted ....... maybe they know this and can see  we aint going anywhere so just put us on the shelf lol

47 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

The "why" is because of budget cuts which means there aren't enough staff to do the work, so the backlog just keeps piling up.     I seem to recall someone saying the Department has admitted their are problems with its processes, but in my experience (as a former manager) that's just corporate-speak for, "Our consultants came up with improved processes so we cut staff accordingly, but now the staff that are left can't seem to make them work".  

Of course one could also be cynical.  We all know how anti-immigration this government is, so I wonder if this is their reasoning:  If people are applying for citizenship, it should be because they are settled in Australia and don't want to leave.  So most people shouldn't be too bothered if the process takes a long time, they're not going anywhere and can get on with life while they wait.   If people are champing at the bit, it's because they want to get their citizenship and then abandon the country to go home, so why should we give it to them?  Let's keep them waiting till they give up and go home." 

for me i work in healthcare and want to be able to vote , no voting for 5 years now and  yet my job is affected by  politics all the time so i want to vote - yes there are some who are planning to leave as soon as they get the passport and that hurts people like us who are here to stay and contribute with work and taxes etc etc , for me its closure and not having to worry about travel and RRV and passports and uni fees maybe for kids  in the future....saying that i cant believe we would get to 3.5 yrs and need to apply for another RRV  but if you are left waiting like us you do tend to worry about how long can this all go on for ..... its nice to finally 'belong'  for some people and again that means different things to different people  .... my UK neighbour has been here for 30yrs plus and never applied for citizenship i found out the other day -he had to rapidly secure RRV when his parents got sick last year but he is happy not to apply still so each to there own ....  my groan is just why our application ?- of course first world problem  for all of us at end of day   but its hard to sit and see other people sail thro or others leave the country as soon as they get it .... BUT thats the beauty of this forum so that people can share info-tips and good news and bad news and sometime just have a grumble lol

15 hours ago, KrisG said:

Been waiting too. 17 months

30 January 2018 I applied (Darwin). 
19 July 2018 - took the test and asked to submit 1399
To date: Nothing - status is still "Received"
Wife has the same timeline except after exams she got the approval 2-3 days after.

I am not sure if it is because I was born in Iran and grew up in the Philippines, so that means I am from an LR country(Philippines) who was born in an HR country(Iran)

 

Also read from whirlpool posted by Aus0000

 

i wouldnt mind waiting if they would just tell us why or how long .... its the total lack of info we get when we enquire and total lack of nothingness that happens after you apply ........ we havent been asked to provide anything else not that there is anything left to give them lol and we are probably the easiest case type they have as a simple family of 4 from UK with no issues just transferring from PR .....

i suspect 2017 and early 2018 cases perhaps are on the floor in a heap  and just hope that at some point they are picked up ...

the funny thing is tho by time we do our test /meet with caseworker all our ID forms and photos we sent in will be almost 2 years old at this rate -  our kids are changing all the time  and passports/driving licences/household bills and all that surely must be all a bit pointless as so old or out of date or even changed  from when we put them all in with the application ...

must have patience   x

monthly groan from me in Brisbane  and shout out to all those waiting a long time..................................

we hit 19 months months with nothing other than 'received'  this weekend ......4/1/18 'received' status  for  Brisbane city - straight forward family of 4 application ......

i am keeping up the calls and emails to anyone who will isten   but as its  now '90% for 24 months to completion'  they have 5 months to complete us  still so must sit on my hands and waittttttttt

any other long waiters feel free to have a good moan   and all those who have sailed thro please nod politely and pass the wine  x