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Thanks! Anyone else here take the test on that day?

Woot! Got my IELTS scores (feedback to come) and managed to bag a 9.0 for writing, listening and speaking, and an 8.5 for reading.

Happy as larry; now on to sorting out the teacher QTS qualification debacle!

Thanks for all the replies people. I'm taking a car from the UK to Aus with any luck. Glad it can be done.

Yes we did, nearly 10 years ago thou, we had a 40 foot container, they built a frame around the car (at a cost of a few hundred pounds - from memory) and loaded boxes on top. At the time it was much cheaper than sending it on its own.

Which company did you use for this Jarvl? Did you load the car up first to make most of the container space?

Another related question - when uploading your documents, do you need the reference there and then, or is it something VETASSESS get by contacting the referee you have given?

 

The website is quite confusing and contradictory, at times!

I answered my own question by just applying. No, you don't need to provide a reference in advance, 19/02/14.

Mine were fairly detailed but as concise as possible. I tried to relate them as closely to the Australian job description for my profession too.

Yeah, I work in Preston but live in Burnley. Hoping to be in Aus July 2015 though! How about you?

GeoSurfer - do you mean the section where you can list up to 10 specific duties?

Another related question - when uploading your documents, do you need the reference there and then, or is it something VETASSESS get by contacting the referee you have given?

The website is quite confusing and contradictory, at times!

Thanks everyone.

I have colour scans of all of the relevant documents, but will get my friend (the copper) to certify the ones that need it, according to the VETASSESS website, and upload them with his scrawl just in case.

I appreciate the input

Dear all

I'm desperately hoping that I can bring my beloved motor with me! Has anyone on here imported their car via a container, along with their other belongings?

Cheers in advance

How much are the large cubes, roughly?

Yeah, I have a friend in the police force who can do it, but how would I submit that online? Typically, a certified document is signed on the reverse.

Dear all

Has anyone been through this process? When submitting documents online, such as passport scans/photographs/etc, how did you certify them?

Cheers

Danny

Either General OR Academic is acceptable for purely points test purposes.

 

VETASSESS is responsible for assessing University Lecturers and they have no English language requirements. IELTS General would definitely be fine for you if you need IELTS for DIBP or points test purposes BUT, for a 189 visa, your wife must be the Primary Applicant as only her occupation is on the SOL - only applicants with SOL occupations can apply for a 189 as the primary applicant. You can't get Partner Skills points as a secondary applicant as your occupation is not on the same list as hers (yours is only on the CSOL) so you won't need skills assessment. There is no point in you doing IELTS at all if you're from an English speaking country or have other evidence of 'Functional English'.

Thanks for the advice OzManiac. I thought that partners had to be skills assessed for all visa applications? Doesn't it stipulate that applicants must both be on the SOL or CSOL lists (and the same one as each other, too)?

If not, I'm not sure the wife will like this, as all the pressure is on her!

For skills assessment and registration for a Secondary School Teacher...

 

When applying for a 189 visa and nominating your occupation as a Secondary School Teacher, you must first obtain a positive skills assessment from AITSL. The following is copied from the AITSL website:

 

Q13: How do I demonstrate English language proficiency? All applicants must meet the English language proficiency criterion. The criterion is informed by the nationally consistent teaching registration requirements which represent the standard of English required for teaching in Australia. All applicants must provide evidence of English language proficiency by meeting one of the following options:

 

(i) An Academic version of the International English Language Testing System (IELTS) Test Report Form (TRF) that shows:

 

 

• a score of at least 7.0 for Reading and Writing; and

• a score of at least 8.0 for Speaking and Listening.

 

The IELTS test scores must appear on a single IELTS TRF and be the result of a test undertaken during the 12 month period prior to submitting an application.

 

or

 

(ii) An applicant has completed at least four full years of study in higher education (university) in Australia, Canada, the Republic of Ireland, New Zealand, the United Kingdom or the United States of America. This study must have resulted in award of qualification(s) comparable to the educational level of an Australian bachelor degree or higher and must include a recognised initial teacher education qualification.

 

Important Advice for applicants

Applicants who choose and submit evidence for option (ii) (4yrs study) but also submit an IELTS TRF should note that AITSL will consider the IELTS results. If the IELTS TRF does not meet the requirements of option (i) the application will be assessed as not meeting the English language proficiency criterion. Any subsequent application from the same applicant will require submission of a suitable Academic IELTS TRF to meet the English language proficiency criterion.

AITSL reserves the right to ask an applicant to undertake the Academic version of the International English Language Testing System IELTS examination if there is uncertainty about their level of English language proficiency. Applicants must achieve a score of seven (7.0) or more for Reading and Writing and a score of eight (8.0) or more for Speaking and Listening.

 

So, if you meet AITSL's requirements per (ii) above and need to do IELTS purely in order to get additional points on the points test, you can do IELTS General OR Academic. If you don't meet their English requirements per (ii) and must do IELTS for the purpose of meeting (i), you must do IELTS Academic. If there is any doubt about whether AITSL will consider that you meet (ii), you should do Academic and submit those results.

http://www.aitsl.edu.au/assessment-for-migration/questions-and-answers.html#Q13 AITSL Questions and Answers

 

When it comes to teacher registration, each state has its own English language requirements which appear to be similar (though not identical) to those of AITSL. In each case, you won't need IELTS if you meet AITSL's (ii) requirements but if you need IELTS, it must be the Academic version.

http://www.qct.edu.au/PDF/PSU/Teacher_Registration_Guidelines.pdf Queensland teacher registration guidelines - see page 6

http://www.vit.vic.edu.au/registration/apply-for-registration/all-other-applicants/Pages/english-requirements.aspx Victoria

Thanks for that additional information, it's a bit clearer now!

Hi Kooky

Thanks for the reply.

We haven't employed the services of an agent, no. To be honest, the whole process is expensive enough as it is, so for the sake of some additional research/time we opted not to.

I've had a look at some sample papers online and it looks fairly straightforward (I hope I don't regret that optimism in future!), but I just wanted to ensure that if we take the academic one it will be increase our points for the VISA application, should we be invited.

Unless I can find out otherwise, I think I'm going to go and book the academic one tomorrow!

Hey all

I have done quite a bit of searching through existing posts on the forum, and elsewhere, but can't find a conclusive answer to my question.

When applying for a 189 visa, do I need take an academic or general IELTS?

I have read that the rules have changed and that only one type is being accepted...but does anyone which one?!

My wife is a secondary school teacher and I am a university lecturer, if that makes any difference.

Thanks in advance for your help

Dear all

I'm just starting the skills assessment process via VETASSESS, as a University Lecturer. There is the option (at $80 AUS) to receive a letter in support of your points application, primarily about your work experience and qualifications.

A question to those who are in the know, or have been through the process; is it worth it? I can only see that it might speed up the visa application slightly, as there's one less thing for them to check in a rigorous fashion, but is there another potential benefit I'm missing here, or is this a waste of $80?

Cheers in advance

Dear all

Apologies for reposting this, but I thought it might be useful to have a separate thread in a more populated section of the message board.

The points system criteria suggests 5 points can be awarded for your partner's qualifications, as long as you are on the same Occupation List. I, a lecturer, am not on the SOL whereas my wife, a secondary school teacher, is. We are both, however, on the CSOL.

Does anyone know if this counts?

Thanks in advance

I can only answer the first question, I am sure someone will come along to help with the others

 

You have one year to activate your visas. That means travel to Oz. You then have a further 4 years to complete the move.

Thanks for the reply. Plenty of time to sort things out once the visa has been granted then. Good news

Point number 3 - The total cost of the visa is required upon submitting your application. Without paying the fee you cannot submit.

Yikes. That's quite a sting upfront. Does anyone know the success ratio of applications?

Hey all

My wife (teacher) and I (lecturer) are hoping to make the move to Sydney in the next 12-18 months. We've got two young girls (4 and 6 months) and are just starting the whole process. It's quite a minefield, that's for sure!

As a start, can I throw out a few noob questions;

1 - Once granted, how long do you have to take up residence in Australia? We're applying for subclass 189.

2 - The points system suggests 5 points can be awarded for your partner's qualifications, as long as you are on the same Occupation List. A lecturer is not on the SOL whereas a secondary school teacher is. We are both, however, on the CSOL. Does this count?

3 - Roughly how much (%) of the visa application fee is required at the start, at how much when it has been granted?

Many thanks in advance