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My partner applied for De-facto visa about a month ago & after only 3 days after got an email requesting biometrics and then 2 days later a medical request. But 3 weeks later no request for police clearance which we find surprising! We are both think of doing our police clearance soon though....would anyone advise to wait? Thanks

Hi Can someone please explain the difference between De facto vs Committed to a shared life together to the exclusion of all others? To me, its exactly the same or is it the same except de-facto means you are living together? Thoughts please:chatterbox:

IF my partner and I have different residential addresses, do you think we would automatically be declined a Partner Visa. Even though we have an extremely valid explanation! And in our eyes and my families eyes lived together for many years. Our daughter of nearly 5 years who will be on the application, surely assists our case:confused:

To simplify my rambling. Question 1- Can I live in Thailand and also have an Australian Residential Address? Question 2- On my 40SP form for Question 38: In which countries have you lived for 12 months (in total) or more during the last 10 years, I would put down every month for 8 years going back to Thailand? Thought Please

THANKS! I am an Australian PR(8 Years)who has an address in WA, does FIFO(Fly-in, Fly-out) which enabled me to work in Australia for 20/25/26 or 28 continuous days and then return back to Thailand for 7/8/9 or 10 days R&R depending on roster. My partner and I have been together 8 or 9 years and also have a 4.5 year old daughter together. I would say from 2010 on-wards any periods of separation were ONLY due to my work commitments in Australia. We bought our first house together back in 2014. We were planning and hoping to apply for her(daughter) De-facto Partner Visa imminently, 47SP filled in online and just waiting for some transaltion paperwork! • We are not in a married relationship with each other • We are not related by family • We have a mutual commitment to a shared life to the exclusion of all others. • Our relationship between us is genuine and continuing. • We live together or do not live separately and apart on a permanent basis except for my work commitments. • We are both aged over 18 years • Our relationship has been continued for the 12 months immediately preceding the date of application. We tick all these boxes BUT have doubts because I am an Australia PR and if I put I live in Thailand Ww won't get De-facto Visa? Could it jeopardize my PR too.....Confused:confused::cry:

Maggie The issue that I've got is that I am an Australian PR who does FIFO(Fly in Fly out) work in Australia, but for 8 years I have always had my 7/8/9 or 10 day R&R’s every month in Thailand and any in-between jobs in Thailand.:unsure:

G'day, I'm due to sponsor my partner to migrate to Australia and just about to fill in my FORM 40SP. I am an Australian PR 8 Years with a British Passport, who's done FIFO(Fly in Fly out) work in Australia for 8 years. I have always had my 7/8/9 or 10 day R&R’s every month in Thailand and any in-between jobs in Thailand. So I class myself as living in 2 countries at the same time! Correct? Regarding Question 38: In which countries have you lived for 12 months (in total) or more during the last 10 years? Can you live in 2 countries at the same time? Am I writing this as a British Person overseas? Am I writing this as an Australian Permanent Resident? Hope my question isn't too confusing. Its confusing for me, ha ha!!! Question 11- Because I've put my residential address in Thailand, I have to attach a statement outlining how i will meet my sponsorship obligations. Even in Part H – (About your home) I believe they are asking about Australia, but I've answered it as if I'm in Thailand All confusing.....It took us days and many hours to fill out our 47SP and now this simply question seems so hard!! Part L is for Additional information. Should I just explain there?:sad: Thanks

PIO I'm getting a bit confused with my 40SP form, due to my situation of living in Thailand and like advised been quoting having a temporary/postal address in Aussie on my written statement and in our 47SP form. On Question 38 - In which countries have you lived for 12 months (in total) or more during the last 10 years? If I was to put down dates in Australia and dates in Thailand which overlapped, Do you think that would cause any problems:sad: I do class myself as living in 2 countries at the same time. Part L is for Additional information. Should I just explain there?? Question 11- Because my residential address is not in Australia, I have to attach a statement outlining how i will meet my sponsorship obligations. Even in Part H – (About your home) I believe they are asking about Australia, but I've answered it as if I'm in Thailand:confused: All confusing.....It took days to fill out our 47SP and now this.......

:embarrassed:Great pick up, Thanks! Yahoo....It should be Okay for us uploading PDF:wink:

I'll have a look thanks. My partner is pretty good with computers and is unaware of been able to change PDF to jpg If found that would be a massive help[emoji3][emoji1310]

The application is for my Defacto Partner & our daughter (4 years old) to apply for their Australian PR Visas while been overseas. So proof of 12 + months living together & proof of our genuine 8+ year relationship.

This I hope answers Question 2 :wink: DUAL CITIZENSHIP: NOT RECOGNIZED. Exceptions: Child born abroad to Thai parents, who obtains the citizenship of the foreign country of birth, may retain dual citizenship until reaching the age of majority (18). At this point, person must choose which citizenship to retain.

Yes we've lots of pages. Regarding originally been in jpeg, they are all original statements, emails, bank statements, proof etc. I put in the printer/scanner at work and it emails them directly to me in PDF format. Online for the visa its 60 folders & max 5meg each. I scanned 100 emails spanning 8 years last night and it came to 3.9meg, which is 1 folder and we thought it would be easy to upload. We know its over the top and too many but its a click of a button, if they sort out their PDF??

Thanks Bungo:wink:

Google is my friend and the answer to question 1 is Number 1....British Citizen Question 2? Nationality = Thailand?

Our 4 year old daughter was born and lives in Thailand with a Thai Passport. She also has a British Passport. There are 2 questions online quering her having a second passport. Country of second passport -1-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH CITIZEN-GBR 2-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH NATIONAL (OVERSEAS)-GBN 3-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH OVERSEAS CITIZEN-GBO 4-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORIES CITIZEN-GBD We were going to put number 3? But now I'm thinking 2? Question 2- Nationality of passport holder? 1-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH CITIZEN-GBR 2-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH NATION (OVERSEAS)-GBN 3-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH OVERSEAS CITIZEN-GBO 4-UNITED KINGDOM-BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORIES CITIZEN-GBD 5-THAILAND Shall we put 5-Thailand? Very confusing:confused: Thanks in advance

[h=1]This is on the first page of immi account???[/h][h=1]Information Please see information below for issues currently impacting some users[/h] ATTACHMENTS PRIOR TO PAYMENT FOR CITIZENSHIP APPLICATIONSWe are aware that there is currently an issue with attaching PDF documents to citizenship applications. While the issue is being resolved, please save each document as a JPG file to your desktop and attach the JPG file to the application. We apologise for any inconvenience caused. So has any one recently applied on-line and had a problem with their PDF uplaods? We've spent the last couple of months getting all our evidence compiled all in PDF and were just about to submit and pay. Then start to upload! JPG is photo format, which is going to cause time and more complications:err:

Thanks for the heads up, Snifter! Some very good points there. My partner has opened her immiaccount and started fill out the online form for herself(Not keen), but she's much more in favour of using http://www.vfsglobal.com/australia/thailand/ She has used their service for Aussie and UK vfs twice. Reckons the service is good and they are helpful to answer emails and question in the office. Regarding extras/emails, we've printed out roughly 1 email a month since 2007, and each email would have a quote of my return/been away at work, flights, hotels, a photo, or emails from my mum addressing the 3 of us. All these have been scanned into 1 file under 5meg. Do you think that is been excessive? We were going to do a separate file with my monthly domestic/international flights, hotels, work itineraries, work contracts stating my rosters and our 5 family overseas holidays, as long as it is under a 5 meg file. After todays conversation, we maybe using VFSGlobal!!! All info appreciated, and hopefully helping others too:smile:

Thanks! Surprised I miss page 25 which reads that I do! Yes, will definitely need one from Thailand too, I had to get one from there for my own PR a few years back. It's a pity the schools in Thailand don't request a police clearance certificate from western teachers from their home countries!!

Nemesis/ PIO members:ssign16: I've just been scanning my passport pages and was wondering about annotating my 50+ visa stamps to highlight, also with an explanation of my return homes and our holidays together. Do you think that this would this be allowed on an important document that needs to be certified? Also if i was to print out the coinciding flight bookings and hotel bookings with the stamps do you thing the DIBP would class this as doubling/tripling up on evidence? I've even kept boarding passes, ha ha!! I've been reading up more on the PR visa, because we have a child together under 18 years old, do I need an Australian Police clearance or is that for adoption/dependents only? Just been chuckling at myself, I've probably deleted more than I've wrote for my partner statement:laugh: Thanks in advance

Feeling happier after reading this post, ha!! Your wording is helpful for me to add, when I extend my previous statements I wrote for 3 Visitor Visa's. For my partners Aussie Visitor Visa she was granted 12 month multiple entry visa at the first time of asking! A good thorough explanation of our circumstances/relationship will be wrote asap. If we are 100% honest and clear I believe we shouldn't encounter any problems. Quote from 1127 Partner Booklet "All relationships are different, so you should provide as much evidence as you can that you believe will support your claims." Seems very true in our case. On the 40SP form question 11 I'll put our house in Bkk. And because my residential address is not in Australia, I will attach astatement at the end of the form outlining how I will meet your sponsorship obligations. I've learnt a new word today but I like it a lot because I'm always doing it at work "annotate" Thanks for the English lesson, Ha ha!! For evidence, We've printed off: 1 email per month since 2007/08 which mentions me working in Oz and return to Thailand What's app messages for years Facebook for years Hotel/flight booked monthly since 2008 Letter from manager mentioning me returning to Thailand on R&R to be with my family Letters/emails/whats app between my mum & partner for years Joint Thai bank account Joint car insurance My Super (In girls names) Thai visa extentions granted due to our daughter( Should state our Bkk province where our house is once translated). Endless photos(small on word doc) Ect etc ect Just need to annotate quite a few documents:smile:

Hello Nemesis Thanks for your words of wisedom. 2 years ago we bought a house which is in my partners name, close to the private school our daughter attends. Everyday me not at work in the outback has been spent with my partner and daughter at our house in Bangkok or on holiday together. I first started renting in Thailand 2007, and see myself as living there since then. But due to me working in Australia all my personal/work documentation states a WA address. No point(Can't) send tax bills, or bank statements or phone bills to Bangkok. So there posted within in Australia. Our house in Bangkok only has my name on our car insurance & our joint bank account. Everything else is in my partners. All my personal belonging and clothes are in Bangkok. If I have to stay in Australia for a night before or after my swing I stay in a hotel!! Surely the above circumstances are classed as me living in Bangkok with my family and also not jeopardize my Aussie PR?

Cheers Captain I think I still got my work contracts from the last 3 years stating my roster days at work & days on R&R(Thailand with my family). And that will be backed up with 8 years of visa stamp entry & exits, even itineraries from work. Plus I've still got the support letters from my managers(quoting rosters) from when we had family holiday together in the UK & Australia. I believe our application is straight forward its just if I say we live together in Thailand does that mean I'm not an Aussie PR? Or can you live in 2 places at the same time....that's a query of mine!

Hello My partner (for 8 years) & our 4 year old daughter who live in Bangkok, Thailand would like to apply for a Partner visa (subclass 309/subclass 100) asap (Correct visa?). Quoting the immigration website “You must be outside Australia & in a de facto relationship with an Australian permanent resident”. You must be in a genuine & ongoing relationship You must live with your partner or, if you do not, any separation must be only temporary. I am an Australian PR who does FIFO(Fly in Fly out) work in Australia, but for 8 years I have always had my 7/8/9 or 10 day R&R’s every month in Thailand and any in-between jobs in Thailand. So on average we have lived together for 4 months of the year and any separation is ONLY temporary due to my job/work. We can prove 8 years of the following things: 1. Emails, messages and calls daily. 2. Photos with both of our family members 3. Flights monthly. 4. Hotels/holidays monthly. 5. 2 UK & 2 Australian family holidays together yearly. 6. Joint bank account 2 years. 7. Joint car insurance 2 years. 8. If deceased my Australian superannuation goes to them both 50% each. But we don’t have a mortgage or joint bills. Rent & Bills/Proof of living together for 6 of those years can’t be proven as we paid cash for apartments, houses & the bills. But we’ve 8 years of hotels & holidays together. 2 years ago we bought a house(cash) which is in my partners name close to the private school our daughter attends. Also none of the bills for our house are in my name either, I currently provide for both my partner & daughter which can be proven too. Question: Can we be classed as been in a De-Facto relationship together while I’m working in Australia and they’re in Thailand? Could this jeopardise my Australian permanent residency with the above grounds while applying for my partner and daughter’s PR’s? Thoughts? Thanks in advance

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