Ursula Thomas Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Finally received our TRA response this morning and after collating lots of information we have received an 'unsuccessful'. Absolutely gutted :-( My husband has over 15 years experience but only an ONC not a HNC. Any advice please Reason was The level of an Australian qualification required for an occupation in Australia will generally be specified in the relevant industry-endorsed Training Package. For the occupation of an Electrical Engineering Technician, the relevant Australian qualification is the AQF Diploma Electrical Engineering. You have provided evidence of completing the BTEC National Certificate Engineering (Electrical/Electronic) issued on 11th August, 2001. However, this qualification is not considered to be comparable to the required level of the AQF Diploma Electrical Engineering. :ssign16: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Pom Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Did you speak to an agent before you submitted the TRA? It's been about 8 years since I applied but there were quite a few occupation categories to apply under in the realm of Electronics or Electrical Engineer / Technician. I applied under something like Electronic Equipment Trade Technician as advised by my agent which I probably wouldn't have chosen if doing it myself. I did a 4 year apprenticeship and also had a BTEC HNC, so not sure if the ONC would be acceptable for the same category. Maybe you could check for other occupation categories even if only loosely related to husband's current job or get some advice from an agent who may have a better understanding of the occupation codes and qualification requirements. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Thomas Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Hi Baby Pom We have a family friend in Oz who's a migration agent and he advised us on the EET. We sent everything over to him to check, but it wasn't picked up that a HNC was needed which was a costly mistake. (We didn't pay him anything it was free assistance for this part..) Maybe we were too excited and stupidly missed it. So now we're thinking our options are 1. Husband goes back to college part time to do the HNC which puts us back 2 years (he'd be 41) 2. Try and get sponsorship on a 457 visa - how easy is this? Going to download CV onto REED 3. Does anyone know if all of the electronics/electrical TRA roles require a HNC, as if not could spend another £500 and re-apply under a different occupation category We are both so deflated this evening All help would be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 May I suggest that you consider the possibility of arranging to obtain a relevant certificate under RPL (Recognition of Prior Learning)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco56 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 So now we're thinking our options are 1. Husband goes back to college part time to do the HNC which puts us back 2 years (he'd be 41) 2. Try and get sponsorship on a 457 visa - how easy is this? Going to download CV onto REED 3. Does anyone know if all of the electronics/electrical TRA roles require a HNC, as if not could spend another £500 and re-apply under a different occupation category Hi Ursula 1. Upgrading qualifications is a possibility but you need to be aware that when you submit a new application for skills assessment with an upgraded qualification this will effect the date at which you are deemed to be qualified to enter the occupation, and hence the only work experience which will count towards your points score is the experience that you complete AFTER obtaining the new qualification. 2. This is a possibility if you can locate an employer who is looking for temporary workers. 3. Finding a new occupation on the SOL/CSOL that better fits is the most effective strategy. Note in Australia most technician jobs (particularly Electrical) are filled by workers with an Electrical Trades qualification (AQF Certificate III) who have completed additional training at AQF Certificate IV and/or AQF Diploma level. You may need to consider whether any of the following from the SOL are a better match (all assessed by TRA). [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Electronic Equipment Trades Worker[/TD] [TD]342313[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (General)[/TD] [TD]342314[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (Special Class)[/TD] [TD]342315[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electrician (General)[/TD] [TD]341111[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electrician (Special Class)[/TD] [TD]341112[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] The six digit ANZSCO codes can be searched at http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Previousproducts/1220.0Search0First%20Edition,%20Revision%201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Thomas Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Thank you for all your advice. I have checked the above occupations and they all require AQF, which isn't good news for us. Is it worth appealing? Can anyone advise on what grounds, just gutted we can't even get through the first stage when we thought we had it in the bag.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry1986 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Are you in the uk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Thomas Posted July 21, 2016 Author Share Posted July 21, 2016 An update!! We spoke to the TRA case advisor very early this morning (flippin 2am! UK time!) There may be a light at the end of the tunnel for us but just looking for some advice from anyone that may have gone through the same situation. Since my husband doesn't have the AQF qual (UK-HNC) she advised - Via RTO (Registered Training Organisations) he can look at gaining the diploma, however after looking on the internet I cannot find any offices in the UK to discuss this? She said you go via training.gov.au but obviously they have a list of RTO's in Oz but I can't find anything for the UK. Once he gets the diploma we can appeal but we only have 60 days and time is ticking. (end of Sept) She stated that all the evidence which was submitted was good and acceptable, so we just need to sort out this diploma. Any advice/suggestions please! Thank you and sorry for waffling! PS Barry1986 - Yes we are in the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry1986 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Try the down under centre in Ealing London 020 3375 9333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Thomas Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 Thanks Barry! Will get the Husband to call later! How's your application going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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