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EDIT - SOMEONE ELSE DID SAY THE SAME, IGNORE!

Hi Sophie -

Apologies if this has been answered (haven't bothered to read through the replies) but WA are offering good packages at the moment to recruit secondary teachers: Overseas qualified teachers - Department of Education

I think there is some flexibility re: qualifications but no movement on experience!

Best of luck!

On 11/03/2023 at 02:50, benj1980 said:

For reference my transcript was called a reference transcript. It stated the following:

• Name
• Student ID (Uni ID)
• Course studied
• Length of course

Within the transcript table:

• Modules and credits
• Days it took to complete
• Detail of the module

No final grades provided. But it had the letterhead of the university, which presumably is the crucial element! The most ridiculous thing is a SCITT is a more robust way into teaching. You have more time in the classroom learning your craft instead of discussing theory. You still complete assignments but you have a superior amount of time immersed in the classroom. I have worked with/for Uni's since and confident in what I am saying! In fact, a lot of feedback from schools in Australia is graduates haven't had enough exposure to the reality of the classroom. 

Thank you so much for this Benj. I have contacted my university and now wait for their response (they seem to open emails bi-annually....)

On 10/03/2023 at 21:24, Marisawright said:

No, if you can get a skilled (not employer-sponsored) visa, there's no restrictions on what kind of work you do once you arrive.

Thank you Marisa! I contacted the other accrediting body and they said I would need 6 months full time work to update my 'currency' (skills). I will be speaking with an agent soon to see which visa has the better chances...and maybe looking for a 6 month job.... 

Thank you so much for the replies

11 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Did the agent say your partner had any chance?  There are some very rare exceptions to the age limit and I'd be dubious whether an economics professor would qualify.  

I'm not sure what you mean by risking it.  If the transcript from the university doesn't prove you hold a 4 year degree, it's an automatic rejection.  No point trying.

The problem with getting a qualification in something else is that for most occupations, you need both qualifications and a few years' experience to stand a chance, so it's a really long-term plan.

Like the original poster I have a PGCE which was not organised directly by a university - although the awarding uni have basically let me give them the text for the letter regarding observations; what we cannot sort easily is the transcript. The irony is now I teach postgrad students in a school of ed at on leadership and management in schools. More or less teaching on the very kind of stuff AITSL might take grievance with me missing from my training!! 

Marisa - forgive me for taking your time, but if you come in on a skilled visa do you have to work in that field? I have another qualification on the list (but no up to date with experience - so would need to sort that). It is not a field I am keen to work in again (especially if have to dip toe in here to gain recent experience).

9 minutes ago, Marisawright said:

As a teacher you have two choices.   If you're young enough, you can get a Working Holiday Visa which gives you a chance to get to Australia and gain work experience here.  If not, you'll need to apply for a skilled visa (491, 189, 190) and for all of those, you need a 4 year teaching degree. 

Your only other option might be some kind of student visa to retrain or add additional qualifications, but given international student fees in Australia, you'd need very deep pockets.

Thanks Marisa - an agent did suggest redoing teacher training...to be honest I thought if I am having to pay so much to do more study then I am doing a new degree in something else!! I found a shorter course in Sydney which retrains existing teachers for a year but only accepts residents! What a shame...(and not so young sadly - the age is the issue with my partner his job is on the skilled list but he is 47 - he will look for jobs and try employer sponsored (is economics professor))

If I can figure out a transcript with the uni then I might risk it for a biscuit. (Money down drain possibly...but would love to move)

Thanks for replying - appreciated

35 minutes ago, Rob Frain said:

Don’t want to be the bearer of bad news but you haven’t got a chance. I tried with AITSL for over a year and they eventually said no. 
 

it doesn’t mean you can’t teach over there as the authorities will allow you to - it’s just aitsl that won’t accept the skills! 

Yeah I figure that is the end game - I was hoping to not mention the SCITT at all -  everything I have is from the uni itself. 

I have been looking into other visa options too - but nothing is straight forward at the moment. 

Hi benj1980 -
Just wondering how you managed to get over on your SCITT qualification? Any advice?

For info: I have a PGCE through a SCITT partnership - because it is a partnership my cert is through the uni and I have got the uni to write observed teaching letter. What I don't have is the transcript....so am taking a bit of a gamble. I have later academic transcripts from further study which need to be included. I am taking a bet on them having some discretion but having spoken with ed dept in WA I don't think they deviate from the prescribed list much!

Any advice would be appreciated!! (Annoyingly on my first day of my PGCE someone said 'oh I hear they don't accept this in Australia' - didn't bat an eyelid at the time!!)

Hello all,

Am looking into getting AITSL to recognise my teaching qualification. Does anyone have a template for the observed teaching letter from the university? Or any advice as what to it should say?

The uni have (finally) got back in touch and have agreed to do it and before I reply with what to write I would appreciate any advice anyone has.

Many thanks!! :)