ksimpson94

Thanks, so would he need the migration points advice from TRA as well as the migration skills assessment he just had? Still struggling to work it out. 

Hi everyone,

I received a positive skills assessment from Vetassess a few months ago. I recently changed employer but I am still working in the same occupation (veterinary nurse). Do I need to submit another skills assessment application each time I change employer? Or do I just use my original “date deemed skilled”? (I have just reached the 3 years of skilled experience so can claim more points now). 
 

Thanks again.

Hi everyone,

My partner’s TRA skills assessment came through after waiting for 6 months. There is no “date deemed skilled” as there was in my Vetassess outcome and TRA stated they don’t do this. They also mentioned that he might need “migration points advice” from them for a points tested visa. This would require submitting all of his documents again for another assessment that might take another 6 months. 
Is this necessary when we are submitting EOI for 189/190 visas? If not, when does he class his skilled employment from for claiming points?

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks 

Hi there, 

I am getting a little confused with posts that I’m seeing on these forums so would be grateful for any clarification please.

I have seen people who have been successful for NSW 190 having submitted EOI for 189 & NSW 190. On the NSW website it states you must only submit NSW 190 subclass only. Does this mean you must not submit 190 EOI for other states but are able to submit 189? Or does it mean you must submit EOI for this visa subclass and this subclass only. If so, why are these people being invited?

Thanks

Hi everyone. If I submit EOI for NSW 190 offshore and then manage to get to Sydney on 482 sponsorship should I withdraw my EOI until I have fulfilled the onshore residency requirement? And then am I able to resubmit an EOI once I have lived in NSW for 6 months? Thanks. 

2 hours ago, Marisawright said:

I can't see any reason why you'd need to withdraw.

Hi, on the NSW website it says to be considered you need to be either living in Australia, or overseas, for a period of 6 months or more to be eligible. Thanks 

Hi guys,

I am currently residing in the U.K. and have submitted an EOI for 190 in NSW. If I go to Sydney on a 482 sponsorship visa does this mean I must withdraw my EOI for 190 and wait 6 months before I can submit it again? 

Thanks 

Hi everyone,

Looking for a bit of advice please. Am I right in thinking to be eligible for NSW 190 nomination I must only submit an EOI for NSW? In other words will submitting EOIs for other states make me ineligible for NSW nomination? (In terms of increasing chances of PR)

Many thanks,

Kyle 

7 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Actually I tihnk Karl Konrad is a lawyer as well as an agent and a bit of an attention-seeker.

So where do people stand if they pay for his advice and he’s wrong?

4 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Does it?  The problem with migration lawyers is that any lawyer can claim to advise clients on migration.   Their legal qualifications are regulated by the profession, but nobody is going to check whether they actually know anything about migration.  Their original training was very likely in other fields.  The other problem is that they are going to charge at lawyer rates, usually by the hour -- which I'm sure you know are extortionate.  And if they turn out to be useless -- tough.

By contrast, if you use a migration agent, you're hiring someone whose whole profession is migration. If you choose one that's MARA registered, you know you've got a body you can complain to if they do the wrong thing.  And because they don't have a string of fancy letters after their name, their fees aren't as eye-watering (though they can still be high).

Generally you'd use a migration agent if you're applying for a visa.  If something goes wrong and you need to lodge an appeal or challenge a decision, then you hire the lawyer.

Hi,

Thanks for this information. It is Karl Konrad who I’ve seen talk about this topic on YouTube. He says once granted a 190 you are free to move wherever. He is a migration agent. Was getting confused between agent and lawyer.

Thanks 

8 hours ago, Marisawright said:

Never trust a migration lawyer, they are often dubious.  However I have also heard reputable migration agents say you're likely to get away with moving states, in spite of the agreement you signed.  It's a moral obligation not a legal one.  

The question, for me, is whether that will still be the case by the time you get your visa.  The Australian states are thoroughly fed up with recruiting people on a 190 because they need the skills, only to find the applicant buggers off as soon as they arrive. They've put in the effort but another state gets the benefit.  That's why it's becoming far more difficult to get a 190 these days -- the states are moving to the 491 instead, where they've got the power to force you to stay.  The government can, and does, change the rules all the time, so I wonder if they'll change the rules on the 190 at some point to stop that behaviour.

 

Thanks for your reply.

unfortunately this makes me even more confused… The government website mentions using migration lawyers. It is literally their job to advise based on Australian immigration law but you’re saying not to trust them? 

Hi,

I have seen a couple of migration lawyers saying it’s acceptable to move states on a 190 state sponsored PR visa even though each state asks the individual to stay in that state for at least two years.

Is this true? Does anyone have any experience with this? And would it affect citizenship applications? For example if we are granted a 190 visa and then move states for my partner to study would this mean we breach the visa conditions?
 

Thanks! 

Hi everyone,

I lived in Australia on a TSS 482 visa before moving back to the UK for a few years. Am I eligible to apply for another TSS 482 visa or can you only use this visa once?

Thanks! 

On 25/09/2022 at 07:28, Phil1712 said:

How old are you? How many years experience of being a decorator do you have? And which qualifications do you hold?

I’m 28, I have completed the NVQ level 2 painting & decorating apprenticeship and qualified in June 2021. The apprenticeship was 2 years long of on the job training where I worked full-time. So I have just over a year of qualified experience, which is why I’m confused by the NSW 190 occupation list asking for 1 year of experience. When I know it’s usually 3 years of eligible experience for a positive TRA skills assessment. 
It seems I actually need 4 years of post qualification experience for NSW then? 
thanks 

2 hours ago, paulhand said:

NSW are looking for one year’s eligible skilled work experience. So, a year’s experience in addition to any experience before the date that Skills assessing authority deems you became ‘skilled’. TRA requirements are unchanged. 

Thanks for your response I really appreciate it. I guess I am just a little confused as to how I can meet the requirements of the TRA (being 3 years of experience post qualification) if I apply to NSW with only 1 year of experience post qualification. 
 

I have a painting & decorating qualification and 1 year of eligible experience post qualification. So from what I understand this is what NSW 190 is asking for. But the TRA wants me to have 3 years of post qualification experience as a painting trades worker.

Sorry if I am being a bit dim! Any help would be appreciated 

Hi everyone,

I was looking for advice regarding the new NSW 190 occupation list that was recently released. For my occupation “painting trades worker”, the standard for Australian skills assessment has always been 3 years of post qualification experience to get a positive skills outcome. The list published by NSW now only asks for 1 year of experience in this trade. Would the skills assessment organisation take this into account when I apply for the assessment? A little confused.

Thanks

Thanks again for your help and advice Steven

That’s great thanks Steven 

The company still had to pay a sponsorship fee and hire an employee with 2 years of experience from an apprenticeship. The circumstances aren’t really that different. That surely proves they don’t have the “more experienced” Australians, which is why you said I wouldn’t stand much chance with my apprenticeship counting as experience. So you’re now saying being offshore would be a reason an employer wouldn’t accept me? Are you a migration agent? Just curious

That’s true, although I know from my WHV lots of people chose to stay on a student visa doing apprenticeships and accepted job sponsorships immediately after finishing. I think the trades are in high demand with the constant construction over there. We will see, Covid could prevent anything from happening for a long time anyway

I think it’s different for an apprenticeship because I’ve actually been working full time for 2 years, which is different to a uni course etc. You can be be a painter & decorator without a qualification. I’m only telling you what I’ve read. It asks for 2 years of experience and it says time spent on an apprenticeship can count towards it. 

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

No,an apprenticeship does not count. A 482 visa does not lead to PR. There is a possibility that you may be able to apply for PR at the end of the 482 but it’s far from guaranteed 

Thanks but I’ve actually just read this on the immi website under the 482 applicant criteria 

(I’m asking for future reference post-Covid) 

I’m currently undertaking a painting & decorating apprenticeship, working full time with 1 college day a week. I just wondered if anyone knows whether this would count towards the 2 years of experience required for the 482 visa. Can this visa lead to PR?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

21 hours ago, Marisawright said:

You're not going to get anywhere at the moment with a 482 unless you're a doctor or a nurse.   Companies aren't hiring because 482 holders aren't even allowed into Australia right now, and that won't change until the borders open, which will be towards the end of 2021.

I know that but planning ahead. Did you get anywhere? 

4 hours ago, paulhand said:

The only reason to go with an agent in the uk is the convenience of having someone in the same time zone for turnaround times and ease of chatting. All the actual application is done online except in a few visa classes. 

Thanks Paul, very helpful! I don’t suppose anyone could help me with another query - From what I can read on the medium term skills shortage visa (482), time spent working throughout an apprenticeship counts towards the 2 years of experience required. However on the PR residency visas they require 3 years post qualification. Have I understood this correctly? It will determine our timeframe of organising consultations with migration agents. Can a 482 visa lead to PR?

I appreciate its hard to say without the specifics, but any advice would be amazing if possible. 
 

Thanks!