Dean0703

No I am still waiting on my VIT. They were smart enough to let me pay the fee.  

Strange 

That’s a major change if it’s true that’ll ruin a lot of folks plans. I was paper you see so haven’t seen the online 

https://www.vit.vic.edu.au/registering-as-a-teacher/how-do-i-register-as-a-teacher/registering-as-a-graduate/list-of-appropriate-documents-for-verifying-identification

I found this about commencement- this is instructions on registering as a graduate which isn’t what I’m doing in applying for a 190. I’m registering first as a provisional teacher which is what I need. What it says on VIT and the Live In website hasn’t changed.

1 hour ago, Snuber said:

Hi I don’t think having a job lined up is part of the 190 from what I’ve read unless I’ve got that wrong ? Also don’t know if you are aware VIT has now changed so you can only apply for VIT if you have some ID that confirms your entering Australia like your visa which doesn’t work for the 190 of you need VIT before. I’ve just got of the phone to the women at VIT and she confirmed that so god only knows how people will now apply for the 190 and not have VIT registration. Good luck with your Medical 

Any link to this online as it doesn’t say on their website that I can find. 
I applied under the old system of sending paper in the post. They have since moved online. But nobody has told me this! 

No I didn’t get a skilled employment statement. The government reserve the right to contact your employer to verify your claim. At the time of visa you will have to submit a statement of service from your employer. Not necessary for EOI. 
 

I put EOI in before I received VIT registration. Just wanted it in the system. I haven’t done the application to the state yet as everything is very delayed. 
 

I started my AITSL last year and had it in January. Took 9 weeks. Wife put hers in January - took 19 weeks. There’s no rhyme nor reason to what they seem to do 

I did a practice, got 18/20 first time

Pass 15/20

I don’t think it’ll be the hardest thing I ever do some of the questions were pure common sense

What Marisa says isn’t true. 
If you are having your documents certified offshore then it is whatever the procedure of certification is in that particular country.  

https://www.vit.vic.edu.au/professional-responsibilities/for-teacher/ncchc/list-of-certified-persons

Right at the bottom it tells you.

The SES from AITSL is a load of rubbish and a waste of money. 

What’s the age limit for the test or cut off?

So that's it.. as long as you've been there, haven't got the jail and haven't broken the law, pass the test and that's you a citizen... Sounds simple to me!

Question as it says on the tin - is it easy as a permanent resident to gain citizenship once you've been here four years Andy not been out the country for more than the specified time. And haven't committed any crimes!

They need to be certified. I can show you what this looks like if you want, I had mine certified by another teacher.

State registration not required for the purposes of submitting an EOI. Some states your can only register in person on Aussie turf. Others you can do online. 
 

How many points did you have on your 189 Arch? Those changes in November have done me right out of that one. 
 

And yes the AITSL is for teaching. 

Been for the English test, that’s fine. 

had my AITSL teaching approval in.

now waiting on wife’s approval from AITSL

Then I can start filling in the EOI and submitting 

still think that’s end of March to be honest the AITSL aren’t quick 

What’s the story for Teachers in Victoria. I’m the main applicant, secondary, ICT qualified teacher. Mrs is Primary. 

I completed it with a pen so no typing issues. 
 

Plus, I managed a 9.0 in speaking and I have a very broad West of Scotland accent, although I did have my “parents night” voice on. This may have helped matters along. 

On 24/01/2020 at 14:54, ozpaul said:

Today we got the invitation from Victoria state for the 190.

Happy Days 

Cannot believe it, I know there is still a very long way to go for an actual visa. Still many hurdles!!! 

 

If i do actually get the visa, can you still work remotely for a UK company whilst in Oz on a 190 visa?

I would ensure i was paying the Oz tax etc.

 

Congratulations to you - what are yo ur jobs and what were your points and where did all your points come from? 
 

Am I right in saying the standard points test isn’t as important for 190 nominations... 

How long did it take as well, 190 VIC is my current preferred route. 

So to solve the mystery 

listening 9.0

speaking 9.0

reading 7.5

writing 7.5

overall 8.0 

Their Reading I can’t dispute as whatever they say the answer is is the answer. Although even doing all their practice stuff, there are some of the reading exercises where I find myself disagreeing with the answer, or finding that there could be two or three possible answers. Problem is they’ve decided there’s only one answer. 
 

I don’t agree with their writing score either. According to what they’ve sent me as their band descriptor of a 7.5, my writing lacks “understanding of some linguistic features,” and contains “occasional spelling and grammatical errors but not that make the piece difficult to understand.” 
 

Naw - that’s fictional. There wasn’t an error in my writing in any aspect of spelling, grammar or sentence structure. I do teach this stuff every day so I do know how to write. But in the eyes of the IELTS my English ability can only be described as “very good.” 
 

Of the four people I met on the day and kept in contact with, none of us achieved above a 7.5 in the writing and I was the only one of us to get a 9.0 in speaking. 
 

I’m absolutely convinced it’s corrupt! 

On 18/01/2020 at 11:23, Ausvisitor said:

@Dean0703 the IELTS results should be out today how did you do?

Takes 13 days so Friday 

I've typo-d that but my iPad is fond of correcting me, it should have said that I do think it's well written in terms of word choice and grammar. I didn't use as fancy words in mine although I was descriptive enough as far as I see it and I did answer the question. We shall see. There certainly isn't enough guidance as to the expectation of any of these tests. If I want a pupil to get an A in their exam, and they want one too, then I can show them all the steps to get there and how marks are achieved. 

IELTS and what I found on PTE is all very cloak and dagger. Their marking scheme for the writing is just a selection of broad statements that are objective and don't tell you what picks up credit. Unless you pay to do their practice tests for both organisations, your preparedness comes down to how well judged your guesswork has been. Maybe a little bit of natural ability as well.

Certainly at £180 a go it's good business. It's a money spinner. 

10 hours ago, purplealster said:

Not necessarily. There are plenty of selective state schools which require you write exams and pass should you wish to attend. Most of these schools surpass the private schools in their results. 

I personally think that these state visa's should be revoked if the 2 year obligation is not met, or alternatively - if you haven't lived in the sponsoring state, no citizenship should be granted. 

I think it’ll go that way but at the moment from what I read across many forums the 190 is more or less a license to do what you like and still have permanent residency and citizenship a few years later.  

On 16/01/2020 at 09:47, CharleyP said:

If you are looking to get an 8 or above at IELTS I would say don't bother with it, and go straight for the PTE. I sat the IELTS General test last week as I couldn't get booked on to a PTE on the days I had available. The writing is pretty much impossible to get an 8. I got a 7.5 and I write and edit copy everyday for my job. Here's an example of a 7.5: https://www.ielts-practice.org/psychological-illnesses-may-not-be-as-obvious-as-physical-disabilities-or-illnesses-band-7-5-ielts-essay-sample/. I'm sorry but I would say this is superior English and worth an 8. Particularly when you compare it to the simple questions on the reading and listening sections (I got 9 on those).  I joined a free webinar on task two before the test and the host told us that we would lose marks if we put information that wasn't relevant (and I disagreed with the examples she gave, I would argue they were relevant). So they are not just testing your English but your knowledge too? Sounds wrong to me. And very subjective. 

Plus, on the speaking I was asked to speak continuously for two minutes but I wasn't allowed to see the timer. That's really hard - and is no reflection of my English. I am sure I dropped half a mark here because I paused before the two minutes was up (I got an 8.5). 

I'm managed to get booked on to the Pearson next week, fingers crossed!!

In respect to that band 7.5 example in the link, whilst it isn't very well written in terms of the word choice and grammar, I think it should only a band 7.5 because their agreement of the point isn't clear enough. They say that they agree in the first paragraph and it's not referred to again. It is more descriptive of the various viewpoints rather than the adopted stance of the argument. That's a secondary school teachers opinion as well as a test taker! 

I did the paper based IELTS last week and didn't find any of it too challenging. We shall see when I get my score next week. If I don't get a band 8 in everything I will be amazed. 

Indeed. It does appear that Australia are more actively trying to stop immigration rather than promote it. 

Funny reading this months down the line - 190 now requires a year worked in NSW so for teachers who are off shore it’s 491 only with 5 years experience. Funny how things change so much in next to no time at all! 

17 hours ago, Lambert said:

Just sent you mine Eddie

I wouldn’t mind a butchers at what a commitment statement is like either