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Hi everyone

I am due to sit my ceremony next week. I’m aware I need to vote in elections and use an Australian passport to enter / exit Australia, but is there any other administration I have to carry out once I change from PR to citizen? Ie any authorities I need to inform (Medicare etc) or the bank?

Thank you

Hi everyone

Here is my visa history:

I first arrived in Australia from the UK as a PR (and toddler) in the 90s. I thereafter had over 20 years outside of the country and my travel facility expired. I returned to Australia as a temporary resident in 2017 - here is the history from the point:

1. Arrive in Australia on a 457: Aug 2017
2. Obtain a RRV and a one year travel facility - this 'reactivates' the 1994 PR and gives me a year's travel facility:   2019
3. My one year travel facility expires: 2020
4. Obtain a further one year RRV: 2020
5. My one year travel facility expires: 2021
6. Apply for citizenship: Aug 2021
7. Letter inviting me for interview on 19 April 2022 received: 11 Mar 2022
8. Rearrange test and pass: 16 Mar 2022
9. No more progress on citizenship application

I haven't been back to the UK in over four years and would like to go back this year - I also haven't been outside of Australia since being PR. It is likely my citizenship won't be in place this year. I therefore will need travel facility to travel overseas and return to Australia.

Is the DoHA likely to entertain me enquiring whether I can have relief on obtaining a further RRV based on:

1. DoHA chose to give me two one year RRVs only as opposed to a five year RRV.
2. I have already had to pay for two RRVs and missed my opportunity to fly home due to border restrictions.
3. I am awaiting obtaining an Australian passport. It appears slightly unfair that I need to pay for a further RRV based on timescales out of my control.

If anyone has done anything similar I'd be very interested..

Hi everyone,

I have a specific question on the citizenship form.

Where it asks for the Permanent residence visa grant date, would this mean the first permanent residence visa grant date?

For background, I obtained PR in 1990, then left Australia for about 20 years. I came back on a 457 visa and then 'reactivated' PR by way of an RRV in 2019.

Thank you

Hi guys, I’ve now received a 1 year extension to my RRV meaning, in theory, I could leave Australia today and return in early April 2021 with no problems. This is obviously good news because my RRV was originally due to expire in July 2020.

The only issue I now have is that if I was going to leave and not return before at least December 2020, I’d scupper my citizenship residency requirement. It may be that the economy doesn’t pick up in Australia until say March next year, so I’d like the option to be able to leave Australia until such times as the situation has improved, without jeopardising citizenship.

Is there any signal from DoH that they’ll allow you exemptions on economic grounds for going past the 90 days in the PR qualifying year?

1 hour ago, Marisawright said:

Paul is a very experienced migration agent so listen to him.  

If you leave the country without a RRV then you have no right to return.  Not worth the risk.

Thanks , just to confirm I do have travel facility over and beyond my trip but not a huge buffer should I need to overstay in UK.

Hi everyone,

I booked flights to see my parents in June/July in the UK. My 1 year RRV expires one week after I return in July. There is a risk that if I do go on this trip I might be delayed going home. I applied for my RRV earlier this week but if I don’t have this in place for whatever reason and am stranded in the UK, what are my options for returning to Australia?

Also, I’m concerned that if I need to go home to look after my parents / lose my job I would jeopardise my chances of hitting citizenship residency requirement by August next year. Is there any sign from the government that they might be lenient on the residency requirement?

On 01/01/2020 at 17:13, Ken said:

I don't think there is any means of doing that. Even if a former PR holder were to be granted a temporary resident visa then while the ATO would almost certainly allow the withdrawal of super earned during the temporary residency period under DASP I still don't think they would allow the release of the earlier super earned on PR.

Guys FYI, https://community.ato.gov.au/t5/Departing-Australia-Super/Claiming-DASP-as-former-permanent-resident/td-p/19004 the ATO appears to be saying that if you let your PR expire then you can access it early. That’s my reading of the posts.

5 hours ago, Marisawright said:

How would you manage that?

By letting PR expire and getting a sponsored job

21 hours ago, Collie said:

No, in terms of immigration.

I think there is a fairly consistent response on the super ?

Temporary residents can withdraw super under DASP rules.

PR / citizens can only withdraw super early under the hardship rules posted by Alan above.

If someone were to change from PR to temporary resident would it be possible to take super out of Australia early?

On 02/12/2019 at 13:08, paulhand said:

I don't disagree - but my point was that it is not a good idea to conflate the ATO view with the Immigration view on what constitutes a 'permanent resident' or indeed a 'resident' (particularly on an immigration forum). Each agency can invent whatever definition it wants in this regard.

Hi guys, can I just clarify that the conclusion of this chat is the following?

1. PR can expire;
2. If you have PR and then the PR expires, you can't obtain super until retirement age.

19 minutes ago, Ausvisitor said:

A PR technically doesn't expire, the RRV portion does meaning you can't resume living in the country (if you are outside of Australia when it expires) but technically you are still a PR.

They could grant you an RRV at any point in the future to allow you to return to Australia and continue to take advantage of your PR status.

I guess maybe you could legally revoke your PR status but I'm not sure how you would do this or indeed if it is even possible

Thanks - interesting point.

If your PR expires then would you be able to claim super?

Thank you

Hi,

I was just wondering, if a candidate for PR who is currently on a 482 temporary visa which is say only 2 months in receives PR, when is the 482 visa taken to have expired?

Thank you

Okay, I won't do that. Is it possible to have this thread deleted accordingly as I don't want to have issues with immigration?

5 hours ago, VERYSTORMY said:

Be aware, giving individual migration advice is illegal under Australian law unless you are are registered migration agent. And yes they take this very seriously and yes, the department do monitor the forum. 

Okay, more as in what employers are looking for chartered building surveyors, and how they sponsor, not migration advice..

On 07/10/2019 at 05:08, ginag131 said:

Hi,

Sorry to jump on your thread but this is the same question i wanted answering as well.

Didi you receive any advice on whether it is possible to use PM element of Building Surveying degree to satisfy visa requirements?

Thanks

Hi ginag131, unfortunately I've not had a chance to test out VETASSESS and building surveying, but happy to have a chat on other strategies to get PR plus employers too. I've sent you a private message.

5 hours ago, paulhand said:

No you can't bring it forward, because you would have to have been holding a PR visa whilst offshore, so based on what you posted, you will be looking at August 2021.

Thank you 

On 28/07/2019 at 01:00, paulhand said:

It's beyond the scope of a forum post to do the actual calculation for you; but I can make the following general points:

- Your dates do not make sense; I'm not sure how your lawful residence can have started on 19/4/2010 if you were absent from Australia on that date as you state

- It's 90 days, not 3 months, out of the country in the final year

- You do not need to have been physically present in Australia on the day 4 years before you lodge IF you held a permanent visa on that date, which is not clear from your post.

Hi Paul, I arrived in August 2017 as a former permanent resident on a 457 visa (I had been PR in 90s but this has become former PR after I left Australia).

I’m now a permanent resident again (following obtaining RRV). At the moment I’m looking at applying for citizenship in 2 years but is it possible to bring this forward in line with me having been a PR prior to my current stay and not having taken much holiday this time around, or does this only apply to permanent residents?

Can I double check, is it necessary to have the original birth certificate for the citizenship interview?

I won't be able to apply for two years, but won't be going home too often and wouldn't want to have my birth certificate shipped by mail.

Hi everyone,

I obtained a PR visa today and no longer have to rely on my temporary work visa in order to stay in Australia.

Are there any government departments, or other bodies that need to know about this change in my circumstances?

Thank you

Tom

Hi Ken,

This all makes sense now - thank you.

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to work out my tax and super situation. Let's say I use the following link to calculate my pay:

https://www.paycalculator.com.au/#70000|0|2019|9.5|5,250,8,40,50|100000

The results I get are as follows:

1. Salary = $70,000.00
2. Pay = $51,446.94
3. Taxable Income = $63,926.94
4. Superannuation = $6,073.06
5. Total Taxes = $12,480.00
6. Income Tax = $12,323.00
7. Medicare = $1,278.54
8. Other taxes and Levies = $.00
9. Tax Offsets = -$1,121.10

What I don't understand is that, per the below, my super percentage of salary is 9.5% so this should be (A) however it is (4) meaning a shorfall of (B)

A. Superannuation (9.5%) = $6,650.00
B. Shortfall between this and above = $576.94

Can anyone explain please how the figure for superannuation is generated? It would appear the percentage applied is 9%.

Thank you

Hi, just confirming I've been in touch with a migration agent and am preparing this.

I would be really grateful if anyone had any feedback on how to present a Construction Project Manager VETASSESS resume and references.

Hi everyone,

This is an extremely narrow subject, but I hope someone can help.

Has anyone done a VETASSESS assessment on their background as a chartered building surveyor with a view to taking an ANZSCO occupation on the MLTSSL list, for example Construction Project Manager?

Nine times out ten, a chartered building surveyor will have done an RICS accredited Building Surveying degree which has an element of Construction Project Management in it. I suppose the challenge is convincing the Australian Government that this degree and work experience can satisfy a background as ANZSCO Construction Project Manager.

Thank you