MilaMocha

Hi all

2 questions to those who have received PR (through 187 DE):

• When are you eligible to apply for Citizenship?
• Does your grant state if you need to stay with your current employer? If yes, for how long?

Thank you

1 hour ago, Parimal said:

Anything on oct 2019 aat files

Applied July 2019 and nothing yet.

43 minutes ago, apilavisa said:

Hi Guys,

 

   just wanna share good news with you. I think the 187 visa is processing back to normal now. 

  Timeline:  aat won on Early Feb ;  request further info  5 days later,   AFP and medical submitted on 26th Feb,  visa grant today. 

   Stay hope!

 

Maybe at IMMI, but def not at AAT... it's there most of us are stuck.

But congrats to you! 

19 minutes ago, Samio said:

I know and I’m in the worst situation at the moment just because of my bloody migration agent. But now I’m looking for different options specially Business Investment in 491 visa. Since very soon I’m flying to Brisbane for my holiday so I’m looking for a good agent who can help me with some information. 
if anyone can help me out would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Can you tell us what has happened, and who the Agent is? Feel free to private message me if you don't feel like sharing publicly.

Thanks and good luck

12 hours ago, cmadruga1 said:

Thanks for the answer. First when we lodge the appeal, we showed all my roles as customer service manager, as i created training, and had interactions with the clients. What i can see now that they ok with that because they are just requesting financial business docs at the moment. looks like that they just want to see if the company is ok to support me. we are ok with that. company with more than $5M turn over a year, but we never know....

Sounds good to me, I think you'll be fine  good luck

5 minutes ago, cmadruga1 said:

Hello Guys, 

follow my case below, as i think its more complicated as my nomination refusal based on 457 visa that doesnt exist anymore, it could be a problem? Refusal reason is not genuine position, as they think i could be supervisor, but we did all the organization chart and everything. Also the company have 2 employers that got 457 approved by then. 

 

AREA: QLD - POSITION - Customer Service Manager

Visa 457 Application - October 2017

Nomination and Visa refusal - 06/2018

Appeal Lodge Application - 07/2018

Immigration requested more documents - 01/2021

 

After more than 2 years my agent received an e-mail from the immigration requesting more documents, as this docs is more business financial docs. is any chance of the approval straight without hearing as we sent all docs. is anyone here on same appeal for 457 visa?

 

Thanks

187 no longer exists either and businesses are still being approved to nominate through AAT so that’s not an issue.

it is possible to win based on solely the documents, it’s really decided on a case-by-case basis and how good your paperwork is (and it if fully answers their concerns).

How have you demonstrated that your role is not supervisory?

Good luck

4 hours ago, simar27 said:

 i just called homeaffairs they said after winning AAT your file consider as a new case file so the 17-35 months processing time will apply on applications after winning AAT and there is nothing we can do about it if they require any other information they will contact us.

Is this a new thing?

I am pretty sure they used to have around 30 days to finalise your case after being remitted back to them.

18 minutes ago, Vama said:

@milamocha i know abt this cases have been reading a lot but they say one in 100 case gets minister intervention.  We have been struggling for almost 14 years for pr n now this ...seems endless..

I understand.
Our timeline is very similar. We also applied in Dec 2017 and the nomination got refused June 2019. We lodged the appeal in July 2019 and have been waiting since.
The current processing time are sitting at 30 months for 187 DE, so if they are going to leave us waiting till the end we're looking at January 2022 (one more year) for the file to be just opened (and who knows how long for it to be finalised).

You can't do much until they request medical tests again so perhaps spend that time working with your child. She hasn't been officially diagnosed so it might not be as bad as you think.
Best of luck in any case.

1 hour ago, Vama said:

But I have heard that  parents with autistic kids are denied residency. 

That's correct, some links on this topic:

• https://www.sbs.com.au/news/more-than-15-families-a-year-face-deportation-because-of-one-relative-s-disabilities
• https://www.shglawyers.com.au/how-does-australias-migration-system-deal-with-disability/
• https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6227767/canberra-family-faces-deportation-because-son-has-autism/

Normally intervention by the Immigration Minister and/or the public (e.g. petitions) can be of huge help.

Good luck!

On 05/11/2020 at 11:44, Vijay avichal said:

my boss hearing was 2 hrs 45 mins long on 29.9.2020,  requested for more documents, submit all documents on 16/10/2020, still waiting for aat answer anyone can tell me when do we get a answer from aat after submitting all the documents they asked after hearing

What's your position and reason for refusal?

And why was the hearing so long 

7 minutes ago, samsam said:

Applied IMM 2016 NSW

Rejected 2018 (training benchmark!!!!)

appealed AAT 2018

Hearing was sep 2020 (asked all docs for last 2 years)

Approved JAN 2021

What position?

And how many months in total did you wait at the AAT?

Thanks again

1 hour ago, samsam said:

Hi Guys,

The good news is that I won the AAT nomination case on Friday BUT bad new is it seems  probably after AAT remit my application to Immigration again Immigration going to play by postponing the process . Anyway a Big step done.

Congrats!

You mind sharing details as to location, position, refusal reasons and interview (questions, requested supporting docs), etc?

Thank you

2 hours ago, samsam said:

Just Let you know guys, after my manager had formal complaint , less than a week later, AAT sent an email and told us they are going to make decision by next two weeks, SO complaint works for us.

Good luck

After how long did you lodge the complaint?

Good luck

8 minutes ago, Raul Senise said:

It does vary but most 186/187 application are taking a bit over two years to get a hearing. My last one took 28 months.

The active AAT case numbers do seem to be decreasing (maybe as a result of COVID) so hopefully we will see processing times improving this year.

Fingers crossed.

It also appears that the new regional visas the Government introduced are much easier to get, would you say that people who aren't lucky to win at the AAT should have a go at the Skilled Employer Sponsored Regional (Provisional) visa (subclass 494)? Especially for offshore applicants (we're currently here but will have to leave if we lose at AAT) and reapply from overseas (due to being on a visa C).

Thanks

11 minutes ago, Raul Senise said:

Part of the reason that the AAT process takes so long is that the tribunal is overloaded and currently has approximately 60,000 pending cases. 

I'm not sure if encouraging everyone to lodge a complaint will help and will probably make the situation worse. If the AAT is dealing with a huge volume of complaints, they will have less time to process applications. 

Agree 100%.

Raul, do you happen to know the current processing time at AAT? We appealed IMMI's decision in June 2019 and are wondering when we can expect for the file to open.

Thanks 

14 minutes ago, Jasz1 said:

Hi position -restaurant manager 

Nomination & visa applied - aug 2016

nomination refusal - April 2018

applied aat May 2018 

requested documents- September 2020

Hearing dec 2020 

That's great news, best of luck!

What documents exactly did they request?

Thanks

2 hours ago, Raul Senise said:

Not ideal to ask for an extension for time after having waited 2 and a half years to have your case heard.

Very much agreed.

How long do they normally allow for the requested documentation be provided? Without the extension period.

You'd think financial documents are easily accessible and can quickly be collected.

21 minutes ago, Abatista said:

Nomination + Visa applied 05/2017

Nomination refused 05/2018 / Visa refused 09/2018

AAT lodged for nomination on 05/2018 and visa 09/2018

AAT documents requested in April 2020

Hearing 1 - 23/08/2020 (further evidence requested) / Hearing 2 - 23/09/2020 

Positive outcome 12/10/20 

Now I am waiting for Home Affairs dept to get in touch.

 

Congrats!

Could you please let us know what they requested in April 2020 and what else in August 2020?

Thanks 

1 minute ago, GuRi Perth said:

Because they gave up their nomination file and proceeded with other options for PR.

So how could they go to Federal if they’ve dropped the nomination?

8 hours ago, GuRi Perth said:

Hi, I’m waiting on AAT from last 26 month as cook. I think it is effecting everyone. They are opening non-genuine file first as I know few people who applied after mine got hearing and now gone gone to federal.

So you are saying you know people with non-genuine application who were refused by both DoHA and AAT? And have now gone to the Federal court?

How do you know they are non-genuine? And how do DoHA and AAT know a case is non-genuine before they even open it?

On 09/10/2020 at 15:44, simar27 said:

 

Applied AAT nomination DEC 2017 and for visa JAN 2018

 

AAT case opened FEB 2020 requested further documents

 

Documents submit MARCH 2020

 

Got invitaion for hearing JUNE 2020

 

Hearing was on JULY 2020

 

after hearing they give us 10 days to submit more documents.

 

22 JULY nomination Approved and visa application sent back to immi for reconsidration

 

27 JULY nomination approved by immi and case officer ask for further document for visa application (PCC,AFP,MEDICAL)

 

21 AUG Submitted all the requested documents.

 

 

RETAIL MANAGER 

ACT 187 DE

 

waiting for the result and looks like have to wait more n more for result already 4 years 3 months since applied for this visa 

Very similar wait times to my case.
 

Applied for nomination in Dec 2017 and was refused after 18 months.

Applied at the AAT in July 2019 and haven’t heard back.

Could you please clarify the below-

What reason for refusal did IMMI give you?

And what sort of documents did AAT request twice?

Thanks and good luck.

On 22/08/2020 at 17:54, Prety said:

Hello everyone after 29 months wait in AAT  I have just received an email from aat yesterday requesting for some financial documents.

position - cook wa

nomination and visa applied in  September  2016

refusal in  16 April 2018 

aat applied in  27 April 2018 and documents requested 21st August 2020 

Hello 

What was the reason for refusal please?
And were you updating the file at all times or just now then they requested documents?

Thanks

10 minutes ago, David08 said:

Hi Leticia, 

sorry I didn’t quite understand your question?

CO - case officer 

49 minutes ago, Caltex said:

NSW 

Hi Caltex

That’s great news!

What was the reason for refusal please? And what documentation did they request?

Best of luck

6 minutes ago, David08 said:

Hi guys,

Hope everyone is doing well, just the update following the hearing.

Application July 2017

Nomination Refusal March 2018

AAT Application April 2019

AAT requested documents: 24th Feb 2020

Hearing Scheduled: 12th May 2020

Further Documents: 19th May 2020

Nomination Approved: 27th May

I wish everyone best of luck, I will let you guys know once we hear from immigration for the next process so everyone has a rough idea.

 

 

You applied at AAT a year after the nomination was refused?