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Thanks. Is form 80 always asked for? Couldn’t see it on the document list and seen mixed comments on forums about whether mandatory or not? 

Just been invited for a 189 accountant visa - haven’t hit the apply button yet as just need to pull a few things together but does anyone know if docs need to be certified and when health checks are normally required? 

Keep going round in circles on the website! 

Thanks 

I just used ‘manager’ and it’s against a big 4 auditor along with all the job descriptions etc. From what I understand as long as the employment assessment comes from the same body doing the skills assessment it should be fine. I’d be very surprised if DIBP said it wasn’t relevant experience but the assessing authority did. Yep used it for the EOI as I needed to be sure we were ok for 80 points and needed the work experience. Will see what happens when an invite comes through. 

I got a skills assessment as general accountant that included big 4 experience when working in external audit when they looked at employment as I got that assessed to and was all deemed relevant and closely linked. 

Thanks I guess my question is I’ll have score for my skills assessment and a different test result for my overall points requirement as part of the EOI - has anyone seen or heard of this or is it perfectly acceptable. 

Does anyone have any experience of the language test. I scored 9s but had a blip in writing (no idea how but hey ho). I’ve got enough for the skills assessment but to get 20 points I’m going to sit the general as I don’t want to delay skills assesmnt or waste time appealing. I’m assuming I can use my general results (assuming I get the right score!!) for the language part of the EOI? 

Any advice /experience on this? 

Thanks 

7 hours ago, wrussell said:

An  acounting skills assesment is usually based on academic qualidfications only. Work eperience is not assessed.

If you apply to an assessing body that offers opinions about work experience points, the experience must be 'closely related ' to the duties disclosed by ANZSCO for your nomianted occupion; the same first 4 digits..

For accountants these are:

221111 Accountant (General)
221112 Management Accountant
221113 Taxation Accountant

The Full Ferderal Court has ruled on closely related  from which, if all else fails, you might be able to make your case for work experience points.

http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/FCAFC/2015/115.html

You might be better off applying as an External Auditor??

No needs to be accoutnant as most of my big 4 experience is out with the 10 year window so can’t be external audit. I’d read something about the experience being on the career path then it may be considered. It’s only 5 points but every one seems to make the difference!! Just wondered if anyone had similar experience. 

Hi.  Hoping for another little bit of help!

I’m applying for a skills assessment under ‘accountant’ and whilst I’ve got 6 years experience in a Finance role I also had 8 years post qualification experience with PWC after getting my CA qualification. My question is will the assessing authority look at the PWC experience as technically it’s external audit or do they look at it as general accountant experience? Just trying to understand if I can get an extra 5 point or not for 8-10 years experience. 

Thanks for for any help! 

Hi does anyone know if for the employment assessment if years in external audit count for example I worked with PWC for 6 years and then as a finance manager for 6 years so happy with the last 6 years aligned to the accountant code but do they recognise work as an auditor as relevant experience in a closely related field? Just trying to maximise points!! 

Thanks 

6 hours ago, lothar said:

* To have your work experience assessed you need your experience signed off by your manager of that role or a more senior person. So if you are looking to claim points for the experience in your current role, then you would need to get your manager to sign it off or a more senior person like CEO if you dont want to speak to your manager. So you could bypass your manager but someone in the company would know as they will be signing it off. 

* My wifes skills assessment was around 2-3 pages per role, she was in each role between 2 and 4 years.

Go to the CPA or ICAA websites, they are very detailed with what you need to provide, they even point you to a Aus Gov website which explains what they consider duties of an accountant. (IPA is the third body that can assess and they might have the same info but I never used their website)

* The websites above list documents they will accept if you do not have payslips, things they accept are the job contract, proof of employment letter from HR, P60's, Proof of employment from HMRC (this takes about a month to come), Bank Statements. There might be more but check on the Accounting body you intend to assess through's website.

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You can try here for unofficial estimates: http://www.iscah.com/news-page/ 

Or go here: https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/work/skil 

You can then go down to "Invitation Rounds" and you will see what the "Date of Effect" is. When you submit your EOI that date is your date of effect, you need the departments date of effect to reach your date of effect before you get an invite.

From current estimates, if you submitted EOI of 75 points January 2018 you might get invited before the year roll over end of June 2018. Anyone on 75 points submitted Dec 2017 or earlier should be ok to get invite prior to June 2018.

With 80 points you should get an invite in 1 or 2 rounds. 

There are two rounds a month and you can see the next round on that website above.

The draws are at 0h00 Sydney on a Wednesday. So 1pm Tuesday afternoon in UK. The rounds are two weeks apart.

Thanks for this 

1 hour ago, lothar said:

Reciprocal aggreemenrs such as ACCA, CIMA, ICA are 15 points, as the equal an Aus degree. I would assume ICAS is also part of that group.

One thing to bear in mind though, is the work experience you can claim points for only starts counting from the day they think your education becomes equivalent of Aus degree. For ACCA, CIMA etc. this is after getting the Charter.

So for example, if you did an accounting degree and that degree by itself is equivalent to an Aus degree your work experience can begin counting from the end of that degree. For something like ACCA, CIMA and I assume ICAS you would need to do articles or work for a few years to get the charter. Those years DO NOT count towards your Work Experience you can claim points for. 

Therefore if you did an accounting degree at Uni, it would be better to have that assessed if it meats all the minimum requirements (the 9 core areas) as specified on the ICCA and CPA website.

Thanks I’ve got enough post qualification experience post CA qualification but have asked the assessing body for a bit of guidance anyway. Thanks for your help 

15 hours ago, Stayorgo said:

Joining this thread as a fellow accountant. Submitted our Eoi a few weeks ago at 75 points. 

Qualified with an organisation with a reciprocal thing going on but still had to do English test and gather loads of evidence in order to get skills and work experience done. 

Hi where you had the qualification on the reciprocal arrangement did you get 10 or 15 points? Trying to work out what is what and not overly clear on the website. I have a degree but much more faff getting docs together than from ICAS. 

On 12/01/2018 at 14:15, Ferrets said:

Hi there,

You need a migration assessment from a recognised body so that is a hoop that needs to be jumped - I am not sure what your reciprocal is but mine was CPA and that was straight forward. 

However, at the moment Accountants need 80 points for a 189 given the last EOI invitation round, so would suggest you get going quick to get in the queue!

Hi thanks for this where do you get the info on the 80 points requirement? Is there a website that gives you the up to date info? 

I assume there is no way round doing a skills assessment without letting your employer know? 

How detailed is the skills assessment? What if you don’t have payslips going that far back? 

Sorey just at the very start of this process!also any info on the partner skills assessment as I think that could push us up to 80 points but it looks like CA australia need an English test even for that!! 

Hi 

just at the start of this journey and looking for some help! I’m a qualified CA with a body that has a reciprocal agreement with the Australian equivalent but what I’m not clear on (and the department involved hasn’t been overly helpful) is whether I need a work skills assessment in addition to noting my qualifications? I’m a bit confused! 

I’ve got 60 points between age degree and language skills but I’ve read I need at least 70 to be on the accountant nominated occupation. 

Any help or experience would be appreciated!!