AMP-ens186

My day has finally arrived. We have been granted our Permanent Resident Visa’s

DE 186
4 people
LR
Sales & Marketing Manager
Nomination lodged 18th October 2016
Visa Lodged 18th October 2016
Nomination granted 1st September 2017
Further information requested for visa on 1st September 2017
Visa granted 4th October 2017

We are so happy and relieved. It’s been a tough 6 Months for us especially since all of the legislation visa changes and I know how everyone is feeling.

Good luck all and keep the faith.

9 minutes ago, PR june2017 said:

Hello guys,
I would like to have your opinion..
I applied for PR as marketing specialist in June. (TRT)
I initially wanted to apply under the direct entry stream but I got a negative assessment from vetassess. So I applied through TRT because no skills assessment is required (To keep it simple, they have considered that my experience was not aligned..)
Do you think there's any risk for the TRT?

Thanks

Hi, As long as you are on a 457 visa and have had two years continuous employment with your current employer in your current role. If so then no issue. I have listed the criteria below. 

• You might be able to get this visa under the Temporary Residence Transition stream if you:
• hold a Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457)
• have at least competent English (unless you are exempt from this requirement)
• worked for at least two out of the previous three years (before the nomination is made) in the same position your employer nominated you for while you held your subclass 457 visa as the primary visa holder, your employer has nominated you for a permanent position under this stream, and the nomination has been approved.

Your skills do not need to be assessed because you have already worked for your nominating employer for two years in Australia.

Hi All,  Just to give you an update on what my IMMI account now says.  It has gone from received to Information requested. 

On 02/09/2017 at 11:18, M Noel said:

When did your police clearance expired??

Hi, They expired 15th August. At least they have allocated the file now.  

It is 100% a wise decesion if you get your police cert and medicals done before the case officer touch your file. If everything seems okey for him, then its better for you that he can decide your file outcome. There is 0%chance to waive these mandatory requirements now a days. Please do not listen to your migration agent atleast i this matter. I was in the same position a year ago and i did the same that i explained above and got my PR straight away 9 days after my medical had been done. If i was late for 9 days not doing medical, then pretty sure i have to wait another 3-4 months to get my application finalized. So please accept my suggestion in this particular issue. Please go for it and convince your MA to add renewed certificates of medical and police clearance in your application. Thankyou

Congratulations mate..
Did your MA or your employer contacted immi recently or your file was opened directly without any contact?


Hey mate , no contact they just opened the file. I have 28 days to submit the new police certificates and all should be good.


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Hi all, I have had my nomination approved today.  They have requested new Australian police certificates as mine had expired.  Finally i see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Nomination and Visa Lodged 18th October 2016

DE 186 

LR (4 People)

Sales & Marketing Manager.

I will let you all know when my visa has been approved. 

Good luck all

Hi Praveen, I asked the exact same question and my MA gave me the following answer:

"The case officer has the discretion to accept outdated medicals and overseas police clearances however they will not finalise applications where the Australian Federal Police clearances has expired. As such, if we have not heard back from the Department by the time your Australian police clearances has expired we will advise that you complete the Australian clearances again."

Hi all, Major panic last Friday when the department announced retrospective legislation changes which would of deemed my DE186 visa that was lodged in October 2016 as invalid as it did not meet new legislation passed on 1st July.  After much lobbying by various businesses, they have decided now not to apply legislation retrospectively. Anyway i got this email today from my MA

"We have good news! We received confirmation late yesterday afternoon that the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIBP) will only be applying the new legislative instrument to ENS / RSMS applications lodged from 1 July 2017 onwards.

This means that your application which was lodged prior to 1 July, relying on the high salary exemption for skill, will still have access to this exemption and will be processed as normal.  This information can be found here: http://www.border.gov.au/WorkinginAustralia/Pages/1-July-2017-changes.aspx

The DIBP has also indicated that it intends to look at this cohort and prioritise these applications where appropriate. As such, I have reviewed your file again and all your police clearances and medicals are still in date. We therefore hope to have a decision made on your application shortly" 

Hopefully i will receive that golden email in the near future.!!

10 hours ago, jess6 said:

This info comes directly from the department of immigration and given it's in an email - I would think it is pretty accurate  

Thanks for your encouragements - I had your state of mind before - especially when I was early in the process and thought my file would be picked up quickly because it was straight forward, complete and sponsored by a prestigious company. It all changed when I got stuck too and now I understand how it feels. It's really not a good space to be in. And with all due respect, it does not help to be told to be patient because clearly we all have been patient already

I respect your assumptions and beliefs but having been here for over a year and having looked at the patterns - especially for certain occupations such as Customer Manager, Marketing Specialist, Cooks - I can assure that applications for certain occupations are definitely slower no matter how straight forward the cases are.

The main reason being that these occupations are in the top 5 of the most applied for and are not necessarily identified as "needed" in Australia.

I saw a few Marketing Specialists before me being stuck in the process. They were sponsored by huge businesses. One of them (Lizzi) had studied in Oz, and had her whole work experience in Oz as well. Definitely nothing complex about her file. Her file got approved after 13 months while she got told it would take 4 to 6 months.

Regarding the March 2017 application, that's good for the applicant. I do not think that their application was less complex than any other that is stuck since 2016 - they just got lucky or there might have been some kind of special circumstances we do not know about. I noticed that some aspect of the process does appear quite random.  I also heard that some companies seem to have better contacts than others... Not sure how true/believable that is though...

I think it is important for people who are stuck in the system to have a space to express their emotions without feeling inadequate. Here, there is a community of people that understands how it feels. At least here, people can find a comforting space. This is an extremely stressful situation to be stuck without any possible status update or communication. This is even more stressful to be stuck now because the Australian Government is constantly making quite drastic short-sighted retro-active changes. The climate is also pretty negative towards immigrants right now.

I am thankful to have supporting people around me, recently my partner PT (originally from the UK) told him that when he applied, several years ago, his file took 18 months (and I think it was transition stream). It was a pretty straight forward application but it got stuck. My gut feeling says that he got stuck because the Fitness Instructor occupation was not super needed in OZ - I actually think it's not even on any list anymore now.

Anyways, big hug for everyone who has waited so long already. I really hope the 2015/2016 files get all processed quickly so we can all go on with our lives.

Jess,  So i have been told today that i am no longer Skill exempt.  My MA has just sent me this

"At this stage your application is impacted by a law that was introduced on 1 July 2017 which now applies retrospectively to all applications under the direct entry stream relying on the skills exemption which are still pending approval"

Not sure if this impacts you or not.  I will now have to go through a skills assessment, which is not an issue but its another delay in the processing of the application.

Have you done a skills assessment as a marketing specialist?  if you did any watch outs.  

Thanks

10 hours ago, jess6 said:

I have heard that before. I have also heard that the company and the source (i.e. MA) are important too. 

That would also mean that they'd prioritise native english speakers and Direct Entry streams.

The DE applicants have to get a minimum of 6 for IELTS while transition visa applicants have to get a minimum of 5.

Hi Jess, I am onshore DE Applicant from UK (LR).  I am also a high tax payer in Australia and i am now into my 9th Month since my application was lodged. I am skill exempt and English language exempt, i also have Fragoman as my MA. . I would conclude that occupation is the over riding factor in terms of priority.  Marketing Specialist / Manager is simply not a occupation that IMMI needs to prioritise and i have come to terms that my application will take at least a minimum of 12 months if not longer. 

11 hours ago, jess6 said:

Thanks for sharing - My agent is also from Fragomen and gave me the exact same answer.

In terms of timelines, when I read "Last updated: 14 June 2017 (for month ending 31 May 2017)" (on the immi website)

I interpret it as follow: they took all their data, crunched it and then came up with this average.  So for example, if there is a huge amount of application in June, we may see an increase in timeline in July 15. But by mid-August, we might see a decrease if there are less applications in July.

When it comes to the docs, I renewed the police check but she told me to wait for the medicals.

One thing that is important to understand: nothing is wrong with the files that are stuck in the backlog. They are just stuck in the backlog but will get processed eventually.

Hi Jess,

Yes you are right we just have to be patient.  However looking at this site and others it seems there may be a case of IMMI prioritising applications depending on occupation and the sector you are employed in.  Unfortunately for me and many others as Marketing Manager / Specialist and other roles are roles which on the surface are probably not a priority.  

Hi last week i posted regarding the extended processing timelines.  My Nom and Visa were lodged on 18th October 2016.  

I asked my MA (Fragoman) a couple of  questions reference my application and what impact the extended processing times would have on my application.  Questions and answers are listed below:

• Q - When the application was lodged the processing times were considerably shorter.  Does mine follow the new processing times or the ones that were published at the time of lodgement?
  • A - The new processing times do apply to your application. These are global processing times that apply to all applications under the same subclass

• Q - We will soon be approaching 1 year for both police and health checks.  Is there a time limit on these and if so do I need to redo both of them again?
  • A - The case officer has the discretion to accept outdated medicals and overseas police clearances however they will not finalise applications where the Australian Federal Police clearances has expired. As such, if we have not heard back from the Department at the start of September we will advise that you complete the Australian clearances again.

Thanks

7 minutes ago, Ozdream1 said:

 

This is not fair for the DE applicants who applied onshore.
Some people applied under the transition stream just because they got a negative assessment but their applications are prioritised...
Ok... this process is driving me nuts....

 

Agree OZ,  I am a On shore DE applicant as well, i lodged both nomination and visa on 18th October, 2016. I have emailed my MA (Fragomen) for further clarification on police checks and health examinations if my application is not processed within 12 months.  I will post the reply here. 

Looks like they have extended Visa processing times. Last updated 14th June by IMMI.  The one that's been extended considerably is the 90% of allocations.  For DE last month it was 10 months.  Now it is 13 months!!!  Basically they bought themselves further time as the majority of applications will fall into this extended void!. This will mean for a lot of people like me that i will possibly need to obtain new police checks and possibly health examinations.  

I have added my occupation on the spreadsheet Marketing Specialist and i am also onshore.  I am expecting a longer wait for this to be approved compared maybe to other occupations. I am however exempt from the language and skills assessment which is good. which may or may not help speed up the process once they get around to allocating my file. 

Hi Sue,  How did you find out that you had a CO?  Did they notify you by email or did you phone them?  I lodged 18th October and my status on the IMMi account is still showing as received. 

Hi All.  New to the site.  Will be adding my details to the spreadsheet.  Nom and Visa lodged on 18th October 2016. DE, NSW , LR 4 people.  Mine is though an MA (fragomen).  Application still showing as received. No logic to how they allocate cases. Just have to be patient. But i agree with everyone that this waiting is so painful especially as they give you no updates what so ever.