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15 minutes ago, Paul1Perth said:

Saw a full page add in our local paper last week that one of the bigger Scottish hospitals is sending a team of management and recruiting people over trying to attract nurses back.

With the shocking going on, at King Edward Memorial Hospital here in Perth, their task will no doubt be that much easier. I know of a lot of disquiet among some social workers within the system as well.

1 minute ago, Toots said:

I think it really depends on the area.  When we lived in the UK I rarely went to a doc and was never in hospital.  Mum was never in hospital in her entire life even to have her babies (we were born at home).  In her 80s she was admitted to hospital after her stroke then a heart attack and died a week later.  The care in the hospital was wonderful.   My sister and I stayed in the hospital with her for 5 days -  there was a room with a bed nearby for overnight stays and I slept in a reclining chair in Mum's room.  Dad was never a healthy man - he had all sorts of health problems but always received very good care.  Perhaps things have changed over the years.  I could not fault the NHS when I lived in the UK.  It's sad to hear it's declining.

Much what I have always heard about the NHS. Which leads one to believe that warnings over the past few decades certainly had a basis of truth. The agenda has been to run down NHS to such an extent in order to drown the howls of protest, with regards to the demise of present system and replaced by something far more sinister. (more along American lines) 

I thought the system was over loaded and under funded?

2 hours ago, BacktoDemocracy said:

Same problem as uk, neo liberal, free trade thinking, a reliance on the 'market' to resolve all economic problems whilst relying on migrant inflows of wealth either in person or as inward investment into property creates a giant bubble which can only be sustained by allowing a substantial part of the populace to live in substandard conditions.

As in the UK once the building firms control the market they will control supply to maximise profit with the connivance of the finance world to provide mortgages that match the market created by the developers.

Without adequate govt control here in the UK the developers are building to lower and lower standards in terms of quality and space standards and concentrating on developing in ares where most profit can be made

I'm greatly afraid lapses in intelligence, being kind, in the Anglo Saxon sphere has damaged our countries irreparably. All built around greed and nepotism, together with a all too complacent, under politically educated ,populist    populations stuck in the groove of particular right wing advocated agendas.

1 hour ago, HibiscusDreams said:

^^ This ^^. If you look anywhere in the world, it's always the more isolated regions that tend to be the most conservative and anti-immigrant, anti-lgbt etc. If you live in a diverse community you are more likely to know that foreigners aren't baby eating reptilians than someone who only reads about them in some Murdoch rag.

Indeed. But still best not to over try patience. The record migration numbers of recent times, is impacting hugely on cities. Sydney and Melbourne of course in particular. People will continue in ever greater numbers, unfortunately, to seek blame in those cities, as initial amazement among house owners that their properties had magnified many times over in value. Many more are feeling 'trapped' and 'missing out'  as time progresses. Worse still the government remains clueless how to tackle the problem or if even willing to tackle the problem, with interests elsewhere. 

2 hours ago, Gbye grey sky said:

It is bizarre that the huge (Asian/Moslems) anti-immigrant sentiment in Queensland stems from areas where there are very few if any such immigrants anyway.

Not really. Racism well known to be formed  by ignorance in fear of the unknown, on top of already very conservative and somewhat conformist attitudes, it is hardly surprising. a gigantic reason I would not live in those parts.

The question being far too many migrants over a short frame time have entered thus lowering living standards, as infrastructure declines, housing market kept wildly over priced, educational faculties decline, wages stagnate etc, . It was/will be only a matter of time before the anti migrant sentiment becomes something less than desired and fringe movements benefit.

While non white migrants, whom dominate the inflow, would most likely be the prime target, all migration would be targeted in some way. Far better leaving the housing market to the 'free market'  and reduce migration by half but maintaining a non racial criteria.

No return to the days when Brit's above all else were given preference, even 'paid' to come out. All on their merits, but far less of relying on immigration to keep the economy 'ticking' over. I'm afraid taking into population difference, UK numbers would be too great for Australia to handle, if a 'free movement' was put in place.

2 hours ago, simmo said:

mr blue sky over _________?

Ain't the White Cliffs of Dover.....

5 minutes ago, simmo said:

Don't know about Croydon but not a cloud in the sky where i am.

Thornton Heath illuminated? Never seen it sans clouds. A definite Kodak moment.

9 minutes ago, simmo said:

first frost this year.

Hope those dark clouds over Croydon don't completely disallow visibility.

9 hours ago, Parley said:

Hasn't UK banned fireworks yet ?

Australia did it about 40 years ago.

Last one in Australia was in 67. A shame as a great community get together at least when I was a kid. We had a community one in Central London. Good value as well. Lets not ban things as there will be little left at one stage.

Worst I had was Barra. Mistook it for being a short hand version of Barramundi, a different kettle of fish all together. You can't beat fresh caught and cooked fish, regardless, for the most part of variety. (never fresh water Mekong Bara though) If deep fried usually find Snapper does the trick out here, if Barramundi unavailable.  But grilled far better.

Chips I agree. Rather poor most places. Some exceptionally so. Most palatable if not much more.  

The old populate or perish slogan holds little sway anymore. Immigration is big business these days and sustains the economy to a large extent. The housing market would likely crush with out plane loads daily of new bod's.  Race barely features these days. Another concern in the future would be the undue influence a foreign Motherland would weigh over government due to influence in numbers residing here.

On ‎26‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 01:37, BacktoDemocracy said:

Is Australia realising that in 10 years time it's demographic is going to become much more Asian unless they can boost European migration, could that be a factor for Abbott.

That could well be a factor with that man. At the moment Australia is growing in population at developing world levels. Far ahead of most developed countries outside of USA. This country could of course not sustain 'free immigration' access from UK. It is not coping well with record migration at the moment. But with the standard of politicians this country possesses such thoughts may not feature. Even The Greens are backing a Big Australia.  

Unusual as a recent survey pointed to some 33% of neighbours in Australia not wanting any neighbourly contact. I can't see how he sounds the ' old fashioned ' type of Aussie in the slightest, if attempting to impose himself when the man of the house is absent.  More a pain. Perhaps lonely? But I wonder if the OP is from an ethnic minority that doesn't like to impose himself in any confrontational situations? Just a thought. My first response would remain the direct one pointing out the problem and taking it from there.

Direct approach, polite but firm other way.

37 minutes ago, Beffers said:

Can't stand whinging poms!!!!  No point in emigrating if you're gonna moan about everything!!! Glad you've had a good journey too!! 

Well no fear you won't read any Whinging Pom references on this thread. (They would be removed) Still my take on things would be for those wannabe Aussies yet to step foot in 'The Lucky Country', to take a bite of both sides of the apple before buying. Great to read positive stories but to keep it real. I doubt if many come with the intention to moan.

26 minutes ago, simmo said:

Did he suggest "go soft"?

No word on the Portland (OR) nut job that cut the throats of two men over there that came to the aid of two Muslim women who were being abused. A third wounded. Very selective indeed in your feigned horror of attacks on innocents.

2 minutes ago, simmo said:

"hate mongers"?

Your getting it.(if only)  Way forward is together. A number in Manchester appear to understand that.

18 minutes ago, simmo said:

Those kids had never once "interfered in the Middle East" its likely their parents, even grandparents never did either

No ones kids did. Nor the young soldiers that perished for what? It is always the ordinary people that suffer. Never the instigators.

2 minutes ago, simmo said:

Arabic then African

12 minutes ago, simmo said:

proves nothing 

Proves what a lot of losers the home grown fascists really are.

Just now, simmo said:

Its like people so badly want it to be fake because it doesn't fit their vision of peace loving westernised upwardly mobile young muslim women that you are spoon feed and swallow like baby starlings.  I work all over London and have bases in East london, I see this with my own eyes whereas you devour carefully selected choice cuts.

I think we just witnessed 'fake' news don't you? The hate mongers will go to no ends. Very pleased the people of Manchester demanded the trouble making scum, hoping to take advantage of their streets.  Way to go. Way forward is together.

1 minute ago, Sandgroper said:

WOW you are so far off the mark the sentiment was completely different. The only similarity was they both attempted to use terrorism and fear as a means to achieve there individual aims which are poles apart.

The sentiment with regards to solutions and emotions at the time was not so different as noted on here. Perhaps the lack of social media prevented some strong reactions, but hatred towards the Irish goes further back than for Muslims I would say, by pure nature they (Irish) have been visible longer and seen by some as trouble. Saying that more likely the hatred towards Muslims is far more intense..........

4 minutes ago, newjez said:

I think it will be those from Somalia that are the hardest to break. But start with the easy ones.

Like the massive majority. Without the overwhelming masses on board the battle will never be won. The more the hatred festers the worse it will get.

1 minute ago, Sandgroper said:

The two are totally different scenarios don't even entertain comparing them.

The sentiment at the time was not entirely different. Of course they are not the same but they can be compared.